NuggetsMcGreggor Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Sack Vidmar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Let's just forget about this season. And start clean next season. Coach, players, the lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 Get him outttaaaa hereeeeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: Rado had had the squad together since July. Our performances in the Australia Cup and the ACL were not good, and basically Rado went to Petrillo and said he could not get any more out of the squad. Vidmar came in at what sounds like one telephone call to him from Petrillo. All the timings can be checked if a timeline is required. If Rado had any input to the make-up of the squad we don't know, but Vidmar came in absolutely cold. He commented several times that he had had very few actual training sessions with the squad as the fixtures came thick and fast. He is on record that the boys had a session without him about the season and the way we were playing. We then seemed to make some progress until, by all accounts, we were as dismal as ever against WSW. One swallow doesn't make a summer, but my opinion at this stage is that we need to complete the whole season with him in charge and then review what it is that we are trying to do, because another significant rebuild is in the offing. TBH I don't think that he has much to work with. IMO there are a couple of signings that don't make sense. Leckie and Nabbout have been out for months, as has Sulemani. JMac is out of sorts. Where is Durakovic? Natel and Jakolis are hot and cold. The defence is slow and porous. Give him the season. Petrillo has said that he had wanted to bring Vidmar into the clib in sone capacity for a number of months, based on that I suspect there had been contact before Rado stepped down. Petrillo also made comments about getting done by huge scorelines in GF n aus cup (or was it the league). Based on these two comments I wouod be highly surprised if Petrillo hadn't reached out to Vidmar after the GF disaster and kept an open line of communication up until bring appointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted January 21 Report Share Posted January 21 We need to start preparing for next season. Priorities game time for the likes of Talbot, Lopane, Mazzeo, Caputo  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 On 21/01/2024 at 8:36 PM, Zanty said: We need to start preparing for next season. Priorities game time for the likes of Talbot, Lopane, Mazzeo, Caputo  Or get some decent signings and stop with is youth shenanigans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 Klopp is available..... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayv36 Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 All aboard the Vidmar out train, toot toot! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 I find it difficult to believe any manager could outlast this appalling performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 For his own sake I hope he resigns immediately. There is something fundamentally wrong at the club. It's deep-seated and until it's fixed no individual new coach/manager can fix it. Rado knew it and walked. If Vidmar has any sense he will too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 He's just a caretaker coach ... fuck him off and give someone else a crack. Jammo would do a better job 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 He has been here long enough and there has been absolutely no change to playing style, if anything it's become worse and slower. I think it's honestly time to bring someone in for 8 weeks to take no bullshit and no prisoners, someone who deeply cares about the club and has had previous success here. If only there was someone like that available 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 no point sacking him, nothing changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, Zanty said: no point sacking him, nothing changes. He's probably helped by the upcoming fixture. Less likely we'd choose to sack a manager a week before the derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 11 minutes ago, Zanty said: no point sacking him, nothing changes. Agree. When he joined he said his first priority was to restore some pride into the squad. It hasn't happened. There have been departures other than just players and the problems are way deeper than Vidmar. Natel, Jeggo, Fernandez - all panic signings IMO. There's a crock of shit in the club somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 (edited) 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: Agree. When he joined he said his first priority was to restore some pride into the squad. It hasn't happened. There have been departures other than just players and the problems are way deeper than Vidmar. Natel, Jeggo, Fernandez - all panic signings IMO. There's a crock of shit in the club somewhere. Maybe we are just spoiled and have over performed looking at our budget restrictions and sustainability rules as set out by the CFG. Through covid times we managed to keep a decent squad together, a good mix between young and old, at a good age. Whilst other teams could not do this, it resulted in City becoming a the dominant benchmark. Now time and age as well as the league has caught up with us. I’m afraid real change will only come when players like Good, Maclaren, Leckie, Nabbout etc and this whole bunch of older players have departed. Edited February 10 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 11 hours ago, Mr MO said: Maybe we are just spoiled and have over performed looking at our budget restrictions and sustainability rules as set out by the CFG. Through covid times we managed to keep a decent squad together, a good mix between young and old, at a good age. Whilst other teams could not do this, it resulted in City becoming a the dominant benchmark. Now time and age as well as the league has caught up with us. I’m afraid real change will only come when players like Good, Maclaren, Leckie, Nabbout etc and this whole bunch of older players have departed. You do realise we lost an incredible amount of talent in one off season, and have been hampered by injuries to what's left of our talent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 15 hours ago, Torn Asunder said: He's just a caretaker coach ... fuck him off and give someone else a crack. Jammo would do a better job I don't think it would make any difference myself, but if anyone, then yes, Jamo. 1 hour ago, MHFC-FAN said: You do realise we lost an incredible amount of talent in one off season, and have been hampered by injuries to what's left of our talent. Everyone realises that, but what this season shows is that the replacements, whether from inside or outside, just aren't up to it. And players and coaches are still leaving the club. IMO this indicates a deep-seated problem within the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 (edited) 3 hours ago, MHFC-FAN said: You do realise we lost an incredible amount of talent in one off season, and have been hampered by injuries to what's left of our talent. Correct and the core players who do play are past their best but we still see wrong comments that our list is the best in the league so it must be our coach or some other factor with the team. The only thing you can be really critical on is the recruitment, transfer strategy and youth development - perhaps one should be tougher to Petrillo. Edited February 11 by Mr MO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayv36 Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 The coaching has been shit &  uninspiring. I’d put money on a decent Aleague coach like Arnie would have us looking good. But we’ve inherited Rado, who looked average at the backend of last season and a season long caretaker in Vidmar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jw1739 Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 (edited) Has the lowest %win rate since JvS and Aloisi in the Heart days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Melbourne_City_FC_managers Edited February 22 by jw1739 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 He sucks ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 Time for him to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted February 22 Report Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: Has the lowest %win rate since JvS and Aloisi in the Heart days. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Melbourne_City_FC_managers Gee that is really bad! Surely with this squad he should be over 35-40% win ratio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 Going to be interesting at season's end. Does Petrillo have the balls to tell one of his ex-Adelaide mates that he isn't in line for the permanent job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: Going to be interesting at season's end. Does Petrillo have the balls to tell one of his ex-Adelaide mates that he isn't in line for the permanent job? Think this should be enough evidence to be looking for a new manager. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 23 Report Share Posted February 23 22 minutes ago, CityBoyz said: Think this should be enough evidence to be looking for a new manager. Playing like Warren Joyce but with worse results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, CityBoyz said: Think this should be enough evidence to be looking for a new manager. Really puts it in perspective, even with injuries and whatnot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, haz said: Playing like Warren Joyce but with worse results. IMO Joyce is unfairly criticised. He brought some discipline into the club- something that seems to me to be sadly missing now - and he brought some good players to the club via his contacts - De Laet, McCormack, Hendry. I hope that we can find a good overseas coach for next season onwards who can do the same. This season's squad is just so bland. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Klopps a free agent come seasons end… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Cooper Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 Would take a magician to get this squad to perform well. I’m not just talking ability they seem to be oil and water across the park. The season’s well past half way and they still play like strangers. Two different coaches, same result. I must say I don't understand it.  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, D.B. Cooper said: Would take a magician to get this squad to perform well. I’m not just talking ability they seem to be oil and water across the park. The season’s well past half way and they still play like strangers. Two different coaches, same result. I must say I don't understand it. So what can we deduce? Either both coaches have the same problem, or the problem isn't the coach? If neither of these, then is the problem with the playing group as a whole, or individuals, or is it seated deeper in the club somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 Wouldn’t shock me if Frank Lampard is in contention to be manager and get in the CFG system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: So what can we deduce? Either both coaches have the same problem, or the problem isn't the coach? If neither of these, then is the problem with the playing group as a whole, or individuals, or is it seated deeper in the club somewhere? With some exceptions (Arlan/Leckie) the bulk of the players are simply not good enough for the current top of the A-league, some never were others are passed it. Whilst this a team sport and with better cohesion we can certainly improve to get comfortably in the top 6. However overal this group isn’t top two material, you can see that on individual player levels purely by looking at strength, speed, technical ability and decision making. Being stuck in the past and going on about how good our player list is not realistic but that’s the complacency which brought us here. Management and us fans are perhaps constantly under estimating the speed and physicality of the league. Signing Jeggo long term is another example, looked interesting on paper but the reality is very different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 5 hours ago, D.B. Cooper said: Would take a magician to get this squad to perform well. I’m not just talking ability they seem to be oil and water across the park. The season’s well past half way and they still play like strangers. Two different coaches, same result. I must say I don't understand it.   3 hours ago, jw1739 said: So what can we deduce? Either both coaches have the same problem, or the problem isn't the coach? If neither of these, then is the problem with the playing group as a whole, or individuals, or is it seated deeper in the club somewhere? Well considering our backline is coming off contract and the forward line is coming off contract at the same time AND they are all on the wrong side of 30, then it is quite probably that they are all demotivated. Our youth are not getting reasonable time and a few will be looking at Rafa and Cola making a good fist of it at their new clubs, then what is the point of them being here? Try motivating past those issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 1 hour ago, NewConvert said: Â Well considering our backline is coming off contract and the forward line is coming off contract at the same time AND they are all on the wrong side of 30, then it is quite probably that they are all demotivated. Our youth are not getting reasonable time and a few will be looking at Rafa and Cola making a good fist of it at their new clubs, then what is the point of them being here? Try motivating past those issues. So you are pointing the finger at the playing group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: So you are pointing the finger at the playing group? yes & no. Yes it is the playing group, as professionals, to be self motivated and to deliver the goods that they are being paid for. No, because it is only human for people to drop off whilst they look for a new gig. I have seen it in the workplace when you hear that there will be retrenchments and people wonder whether its them and some just start looking for new jobs even if they are not on the chopping list. Their productivity is greatly reduced. So I can't blame the playing group for feeling the way they do. I wonder whether CFG will look at the contracts and ask Petrillo why the club found itself in this position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 Yes, IMO Petrillo should never have allowed all these contracts to finish concurrently. But I don't resile from the view that it's deeper than that. Sakhi's abrupt departure, Behich's too. Then Van Houten and another assistant pulling the pin. These follow Lam and VDV walking away from their contracts at the end of last season. And Rado of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 1 Report Share Posted March 1 On 22/02/2024 at 7:06 PM, kingofhearts said: He sucks ass  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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