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  1. Definitely aren't out on a technicality, the rules were in place before the tournament started. Can certainly argue the 4th place points not counting isn't fair, given we were technically the 3rd ranked 2nd place side across both east and west combined across any sort of normal system, but ultimately it is what it is and we needed to do better. We were 100% ridiculously unlucky with how the other results conspired against us. Aloisi would be proud of that set of circumstances for sure. Ultimately i think we did well overall as a team given the injuries we had and 6 games in 18 days, but its hard not to look at the little things like man management and Glover's indiscretions as being key reason we fell agonizingly short.
    11 points
  2. Agree with so much of the above. And finally PK actually influenced a result. Was brave to start Berenguer and we looked a completely different side the first 30 minutes, then he ran out of gas. Was great that he brought on Tilio and moved Leckie central. Glover played so much better, but was lucky. He completely missed a punch and it was only luck Adelaide didn't score. But Good and Nuno, seriously solid. Metcalfe worked and stretched them, but Griffiths change was also critical. I think he should start the granny over Gomulka. Cola was another great change. Overall PK has done what a decent coach should do and he needs his bench. Looking forward to this week.
    10 points
  3. Incorrect. No-one can take the plate off us. If we dont win it, we'll have lost it and have no one to blame but ourselves. We'll get it done tomorrow tho
    10 points
  4. Weve literally done the double with Metcalfe and Atkinson last year, and are the odds on favourite to win the plate again this week. If the talent is good enough then its good enough, irrespective of age.
    10 points
  5. Love the thread, great idea @Jovan. Got a positive story to add. Got a call from Ryan on the Friday before the Wellington game. Said the club wanted to thank my partner and I for attending all home games this season and being long term members, and offered us an 'ultimate matchday experience'. We were chauffeured to and from AAMI, got free jerseys, had a stadium tour, and had seats behind Wellingtons bench (not the best view, but being pitch-side was cool). On the pitch up close for the trophy lifting too. Truly amazing. There's a video on social media if you want to watch us try, and fail, to act naturally with a camera following you the entire time.
    7 points
  6. Personally I would be going with Griff over gomulka, tillio on the wing and Leckie central. FB looked to under cooked against Adelaide n historically he has taken a few games to build any form. I would also go Bos over Jamo, but that is never gonna happen.
    6 points
  7. In between the hysterics, this forum offers intelligent criticisms and often lands on the truth. Far better than mainstream media or social media. For instance, the failings of PK and Glover this season have been rightly discussed. Also when things go well, like on the weekend when PK gets it right with tactics and subs, this is also reflected.
    6 points
  8. UPDATE THE GRAPHIC, WE'VE BEATEN A TOP 4 TEAM, YOU CAN SHUT UP NOW YOU FOOTBALL JOURNALIST HACKS HAHAHA
    6 points
  9. I just finished work, 80th minute saw Western were up 3-1. Watched the remainder of the match!! I can't begin to put in words how much I love seeing a packed Aami park with victory fans watching their team blow a 1-0 aggregate lead 4-2. What a night! But wait, aren't you the bench mark of the competition?!? Hahahahaha
    6 points
  10. Having Florin back is huge but I am worried we'll get his pedestrian version coming off a bad injury. Honestly, I'd only bring him off the bench for the first leg personally but Adelaide away is a massive test so I guess we can't afford to hold back.
    6 points
  11. So you're saying we need to bring back the sausage stand yeah?
    6 points
  12. It doesn't surprise me. I've been a rusted on 10-11 home matches minimum for several seasons, and I bet I've only managed 5 or 6 this season. That's down to impossible scheduling. And there have been plenty who haven't attended at all because of covid. Let's get back to a more manageable schedule, get past covid, have something of a reset and then see where we are. Three things that get people going to matches are good atmosphere, entertaining football, and decent food/bevs. With small crowds we've been lacking atmosphere (but that's a longer run suppression of active terrace culture too), the football has been patchy (some of that is scheduling) and the food and bevs choice this year has been rank.
    6 points
  13. I just dont see how PK can be moved on. However, taking a lesson from Sydney I beleive if we don't refresh the squad with new players we're destined to fail at some point. Sydney have a number of excellent players but I think they've simply gone stale. Same coach, same ageing players, same tactics. Hoping PK can give the squad a boost with a few excellent signings in the off season.
    6 points
  14. Agreed! Players look sick of the micro managing in game. Team selection has been questionable to say the least. Players not being rewarded after good performances but instead being benched for PKs favourites. Those ACL games were hugely disappointing the way PK managed them. Not making any changes in 38 degree heat when we are clearly out on our feet. It's ridiculous. Flo and O'Neil being injured reflects on him imo
    6 points
  15. Eat shit Victory, thanks for coming x
    6 points
  16. Oh bs JW, cmon now. We're still in the driver's seat. We didn't throw it away. If we have a smidgen of professionalism about us, we'd be preparing for a win on Monday irrespective of tonight's result. I honestly don't see all the fuss. If we don't win, we don't deserve it. Then we can blame PK and Glover all we want.
    6 points
  17. How many times does Jamo have to keep fucking up before Bos wins back a starting spot after he was inexplicably dropped.
    6 points
  18. Fuck yeah, win this and we win the plate. Give it all ya got lads!!!!!
    6 points
  19. This ... Kisnorbo is a fool. We should have seen squad rotations all year. We should know the full potential of all the team, as it is a squad game, and clearly we got talent throughout the whole squad. Inexcusably poor, and has 100% cost us points, player injuries and stifled the development of some really promising players ... however, critics may say we are still odds on to win the plate! But in reality we should have locked it down 3 games ago, and we should be able to enjoy our team's successes and strengths, not suffer through this obvious mismanagement, which casts a negative light over our team
    6 points
  20. I think three, then we would have topped the Group. Once we came second, if Kitchee had lost last night we would have qualified as the third "six best of the rest" but once they gained a point they finished on 7 points in their Group of 3 whereas we finished on 6 after losing the 6 points we gained against United City in a group of 4. We blew it when we conceded a goal in injury time against Jeonnam. We came within two injury time goals of qualifying. Heartesqe. It has dogged us for 11 seasons now. It's almost unbelievable really - I know my guts tighten in those last minutes every time we play - even a two-goal lead isn't enough. In the Heart days I used to say that you couldn't be sure Heart had won until you were back on Richmond station and they actually had. More than anything we need a manager who can exorcise that demon.
    6 points
  21. OK, I have my tickets (four in fact) and havent missed a home game all season. Firstly, the ticket prices are way too facken high! After you've forked out for a membership, and with living cost high, covid impacts, yadda yadda yadda, its not priced for the everyday punter. Secondly, I'm pissed to see the league now offering discounts to get more numbers .... what about the die hard true fans, shouldn't they get some reward? Third, I'm even more pissed that Maccas are doing free family passes to the GF (via their app) if you spend $15 or more on food ... WTF? If the league was smart (which they aint), they would have priced this to sell out. With tickets so expensive, and with it being on FTA TV, now they have made a rod for their own back. Its an embarrassment that you can get 80k theatre goers to watch Barcelona play a warm up game, and they cant work out how to sell out a GF. Piss Poor
    5 points
  22. I think anything over 20k will be an outstanding result to be honest, in the context of the crowds this season and across the board.
    5 points
  23. I take it all back. This weekend is a catch up round for juniors and we don't have a game. We also cancelled our Saturday training session so added bonus. So the 2pm KO could be the greatest thing ever. Regarding the game itself. I'm super confident. Adelaide pushed us over there but never really looked like scoring. I feel we are getting back to some level of form, in particular our back 5 is looking solid. We just need Berenguer back, if he can play minutes in our win I'll feel alot more confident going into the granny. And before anyone arcs up about being over confident, fuck yeah, we got this. This is a 4:0 win.
    5 points
  24. Other clubs: re sign coach after failed season and boring tactics MC Forum: smart decision, makes sense, good to have faith etc. MCFC: Re sign title winning coach MC Forum: Get rid of him, lost the dressing room, sack him.
    5 points
  25. I wouldn't have said it's disrespectful because it's factual. (The headline is actually inaccurate because City themselves are in the top four....) No, we weren't good enough on the day to beat any of the clubs who finished 2nd to 4th on the ladder, but none of those three teams was good enough to get enough points against the teams who finished 5th to 12th to take advantage of that and win the Premiership.
    5 points
  26. Good to see the forum is on the edge of group suicide 16 minutes into the first leg.
    5 points
  27. Pencil it in tonight! City 3-1 winners. We will put to bed any doubt that we are the best team with a dominant performance away from home
    5 points
  28. I wonder: does Bon Jovi ever think about this club?
    5 points
  29. Well I'm nervous about Adelaide away. Always a tough place to play! But we'll have to take confidence from the fact we've been in winning positions both times there and hope to improve on that
    5 points
  30. Bos should replace Jamo. He offers more as he's the overlapping fullback. This is better for the team than just playing him as a winger, where we already play Leckie and Nabbout. Galloway should be on the other side. Captaincy band keeps Jamo in the starting team.
    5 points
  31. This is borderline crazy. We have just won the League, we have just won back to back titles and some are seriously suggesting we sack the coach. I get he has limitations but come on.
    5 points
  32. He’s got to go mate, he’s completely demoralised the squad. Everybody is confused and frustrated, nothing works going forward. You can’t tell me this squad is cohesive and having fun. He’s the sole reason we have no midfield. Lucky finals don’t matter anymore.
    5 points
  33. Tonight should not be smash and grab. We should take our time, constantly pass the ball backwards and do it slowly. This will allow time for them to set up their defence against us. It worked well in the ACL and it will work tremendously well in the A-League tonight. It’s not like we are playing for the Premiers Plate.
    5 points
  34. As nice as it is to point out the flaws in our qualification attempt, there really is very little point now dwelling on the what ifs. More focused on trying to win our second plate in succession and with it another ACL attempt.
    5 points
  35. It's all a bit fluid because the team that finishes *2nd, and the team that finishes 4th, often isn't decided until the final day, and then you have to work backwards to rank the second place teams. The United game is a total dead rubber until it isnt effectively; if Jeonnam get something out of the game against Pathum then top spot is back on the table, either by simply winning if Pathum lose, or winning by 5+ if there is a draw. Jeonnam have some incentive to get a result too; if they win they need us to lose for them to slide up into 2nd spot. In fairness that looks highly unlikely if we have a result to play for. In terms of the ranking of 2nd placed teams, our best result at the minute is to hope the game between Johor and Ulsan isn't a draw, because either of those team winning takes them top and we have already secured more points than Kawasaki against the non-last placed teams (Kawasaki play last in the final game). The other key fixture for us is hoping that Kitchee don't take more than 3 points over their two games v Vissel Kobe and Chiangrai. I think our most likely outcome is that we'll go through 3rd ranked of the 2nd placed teams, but top spot and missing out altogether are definitely still on the table.
    5 points
  36. sunday 2pm with an rdo on monday is fucking dangerous i like it.
    4 points
  37. Id give him 20-30 off the bench tomorrow night with the view to start him on Sunday. You want minutes in his legs before the GF and we've seen in the past hes taken a few runs post injury to get going, but we also need to make sure we dont rush him either. Thats about the right balance imo.
    4 points
  38. I only followed the A-League but when Ange was appointed Celtic coach I went to the fan forums just to see the reaction. You would swear that Celtic had just avoided relegation to the Faroe Islands second division when Celtic had come runners up. And then they appointed Ange! That is how toxic I want the forum to become.
    4 points
  39. If the club and CFG hierarchy haven't looked beyond the actual results of the league season and seen PK's limitations then they are fools.
    4 points
  40. This game screams Balotelli…..Agueroooooooo (I’m nervous as fuck cunts)
    4 points
  41. Did you really expect anything different?
    4 points
  42. Yeah you make some good points there and I don't want to sound like I'm making excuses for our failings in qualifying for the round of 16...but the 40 team ACL group stage is a bit of a farce then to throw in what happened due to one group only having 3 teams in it kind of validates that it has become a bit of a mickey mouse tournament in it's current format. If the AFC want to try and become the "UCL of Asia" then they need to go back to the 32 team group stage and top 2 make the round of 16. Rant over
    4 points
  43. Under normal circumstances, going through the group stage undefeated would have pleased supporters and obviously taken us through. The club will spin that and say we mixed it with the best/competed and represented Australia/City Group etc. Reality is we had the easiest draw we could hope for and won’t be that lucky again. It’s pretty underwhelming and I think we can all see the trail of errors that led to this point. TLDR: Glad we competed in Asia, should have done better. …….time to move on.
    4 points
  44. I just watched the game. I thought Macca when he had his first chance and was called offside was kept on by their leftback, it looked like it to me. Kisnorbo should have more faith in his players, because as a second string team that some have played barely any football, I thought they did well. Bos is looking like he could have some potential, I really like the look of him. The team had to much to do in the final game, if Glover could actually keep, it probably would have made the difference.
    4 points
  45. I hate to say it, but all we really need is a keeper who can catch.
    4 points
  46. So was that game match fixed? When ever Vissel Kobe scored, Kitchee mysteriously scored just after.
    4 points
  47. No issue with Griff. Fack em! PK is so freakn unqualified mentally to coach its not funny. Anyone could have seen we needed subs. Naboutt was cooked, as was JMAC and Tillio. Endo, Steff, Raph ... the Italian fella .... we have players on the bench that can do the job. In those conditions, fresh legs can win you the game. PK is a dunce.
    4 points
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