Shahanga Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) That miss today in the first half when he was one on one with an out of position Danny Vukovic is inexcusable. My take is that David Williams doesn't have the right temperament - the fear of missing led to him panicking/freezing up and losing his technique. Result - he skied the ball metres over the cross bar. David Williams is over 27. It's unlikely he's going to improve much from here. He's a coach killer and a team morale sapper and should be replaced. I also think he is one player who we could attract interest for, as someone will be attracted by his highlights reel. Makes sense to move him on whilst we can. Edited April 19, 2015 by Shahanga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Been saying that this guy is garbage for 33 pages. He is only effective if you bring him off the bench for the last 10-20 minutes, where he can use his bit of speed to run around tired players. He just clearly is not a starter in this league. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Been saying that this guy is garbage for 33 pages. He is only effective if you bring him off the bench for the last 10-20 minutes, where he can use his bit of speed to run around tired players. He just clearly is not a starter in this league. Fully agree. He's an impact player at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 That miss today in the first half when he was one on one with an out of position Danny Vukovic is inexcusable. My take is that David Williams doesn't have the right temperament - the fear of missing led to him panicking/freezing up and losing his technique. Result - he skied the ball metres over the cross bar. David Williams is over 27. It's unlikely he's going to improve much from here. He's a coach killer and a team morale sapper and should be replaced. "the fear of missing led to him panicking/freezing up and losing his technique." Maybe or maybe not. It may not be fear or panick but just an inadequate techqiue that cannot be improved. There are many players like this in the HAL and that's why they're not playing in higher leagues around the world. Or they tried, failed and came back home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 i want this cunts head on a steak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellydrum Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 i want this cunts head on a steak Porterhouse, rib-eye, or scotch fillet? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 i want this cunts head on a steak Bit harsh but understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 (edited) That miss today in the first half when he was one on one with an out of position Danny Vukovic is inexcusable. My take is that David Williams doesn't have the right temperament - the fear of missing led to him panicking/freezing up and losing his technique. Result - he skied the ball metres over the cross bar. David Williams is over 27. It's unlikely he's going to improve much from here. He's a coach killer and a team morale sapper and should be replaced. I almost think he might have the opposite problem to a fear of missing (which does seem to be an issue with a number of players. Jason Hoffman pretty much said it's why he struggled as a striker in the A-League). I'm starting to wonder if Williams is just too casual and nonchalant in front of goal. He never seems truly annoyed or angry when he misses or stuffs up a big chance. In other words, "If I score I score, if I miss I miss" might be the kind of thinking Williams has, and why he is such a wasteful player in front of goal. Edited April 19, 2015 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Williams is missing that cunningness in front of goal. Those that have played up front would understand when you shoot you get a sense of where the keeper is where he expects you to shoot and your able to formulate all this in an instant to make a correct decision on how you will execute this to score the goal. I watch Williams and I don't see in any instant his brain process the situation whatsover. He scores when no thought process is necessary. Force him to think and he's fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 I agree with Parrot as I believe he definitely panicked in this instance. He brought the ball down and his touch put it a bit further behind him that he wanted. He then panicked and snatched at the shot as Vukovic came at him, sending it way high. It was just friggin awful. It's definitely not a striker's temperament. He did exceptionally well with his goal tally last year, but he is not a real striker. Apart from Kennedy, we don't really have one. Which is why need to move heaven and earth to get someone who knows what they're doing in front of goal. See McLaren's finishes....composure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 Shit cunt of the highest order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 King of the shitcunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I agree with Parrot as I believe he definitely panicked in this instance. He brought the ball down and his touch put it a bit further behind him that he wanted. He then panicked and snatched at the shot as Vukovic came at him, sending it way high. It was just friggin awful. It's definitely not a striker's temperament. He did exceptionally well with his goal tally last year, but he is not a real striker. Apart from Kennedy, we don't really have one. Which is why need to move heaven and earth to get someone who knows what they're doing in front of goal. See McLaren's finishes....composure! Thanks Rass. When I used to play at a reasonable level in competition table tennis I got myself into winning positions points up against good players or in important games and then my technique went to pieces. Why? Because of the fear of failure. The fear of messing up this great position I was in. Result - I tensed up, gripped the bat much tighter, the fluid shots disappeared plus because the bat was gripped much tighter made the opponent's spin on the ball so much harder to control. The number of times Williams misses absolute sitters from a few metres out that he'd easily put away in practice is I'm sure imo because he's fearful of messing up an absolute sitter and everything else bad flows from that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I agree with Parrot as I believe he definitely panicked in this instance. He brought the ball down and his touch put it a bit further behind him that he wanted. He then panicked and snatched at the shot as Vukovic came at him, sending it way high. It was just friggin awful. It's definitely not a striker's temperament. He did exceptionally well with his goal tally last year, but he is not a real striker. Apart from Kennedy, we don't really have one. Which is why need to move heaven and earth to get someone who knows what they're doing in front of goal. See McLaren's finishes....composure! Thanks Rass. When I used to play at a reasonable level in competition table tennis I got myself into winning positions points up against good players or in important games and then my technique went to pieces. Why? Because of the fear of failure. The fear of messing up this great position I was in. Result - I tensed up, gripped the bat much tighter, the fluid shots disappeared plus because the bat was gripped much tighter made the opponent's spin on the ball so much harder to control. The number of times Williams misses absolute sitters from a few metres out that he'd easily put away in practice is I'm sure imo because he's fearful of messing up an absolute sitter and everything else bad flows from that. It has finally clicked. Table tennis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I agree with Parrot as I believe he definitely panicked in this instance. He brought the ball down and his touch put it a bit further behind him that he wanted. He then panicked and snatched at the shot as Vukovic came at him, sending it way high. It was just friggin awful. It's definitely not a striker's temperament. He did exceptionally well with his goal tally last year, but he is not a real striker. Apart from Kennedy, we don't really have one. Which is why need to move heaven and earth to get someone who knows what they're doing in front of goal. See McLaren's finishes....composure! The number of times Williams misses absolute sitters from a few metres out that he'd easily put away in practice is I'm sure imo because he's fearful of messing up an absolute sitter and everything else bad flows from that. it is because he played with Mifdud for a season, taught him how to miss those one on ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 I don't really care why Williams is so hopeless in front of goal - we're not supposed to be running a psychology clinic out there, it's a football club. He has never been reliable in front of goal, and should never have been signed for more than one more season after his reasonable showing last season. van 't Schip just doesn't seem to understand the common-sense approach. I don't care how bloody tactically brilliant he's supposed to be, because if it's not allied with common sense it won't get us anywhere. And the results prove that it hasn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Potato 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted April 25, 2015 Report Share Posted April 25, 2015 Potato Pontiac (unwashed obviously). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Such a waste of space. I wonder if he has more than 50% pass completion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 I'd be surprised if his 'shots on target' rate was 50% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 This guy really needs to go. Last season was a shadow of his past and this season is a shadow of his last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Spud!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronAV11 Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 I prefer Ramsay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALZALOL Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Absolute disgrace. Needs to be moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Pints Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Not a fan but has a decent record at etihad, the fast surface suits him and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he gets on the scoresheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Willo getting on the scoresheet would imply he is able to get a shot on target. Most likely scenario would be a huge deflection diverting the ball from its destination in row Z into the back of the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 shocking season from the bloke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Spud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 About as useful as a concrete parachute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Needs to come on at around the 60th minute mark this Friday as he pretty much always makes an impact as a sub. We can't really afford to have a guy who can't take his chances in the starting XI as I can see us only getting a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted May 5, 2015 Report Share Posted May 5, 2015 Needs to come on at around the 60th minute mark this Friday as he pretty much always makes an impact as a sub. We can't really afford to have a guy who can't take his chances in the starting XI as I can see us only getting a few. So who are you starting ahead of him again? Surely we can save the vitriol till after the 17th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 No doubt that Willo has had a poor season, even by his own standards. One bad habit he seems to have developed is his first touch takes the ball away from goal instead of towards it - he did that again when put through by Koren in the early stages against Wellington. But I'm afraid that he will be with us again next season. The only way out for him that I can see is a possible offer from one of the sides rebuilding after this season - say Central Coast or Newcastle. But I think that is rather unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 jw that has always been a problem with him. I remember many times with his back to the goals his first touch would be so bad it would send the ball in the wrong direction into the feet of the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Did anyone see the Fox Sports word association video Melbourne City posted? Willo Paartalu and Chapman all took part and their answers were pretty funny. WORD: Finals. PAARTALU: City winning it all. CHAPMAN: City winning it all. WILLIAMS: Series. The best one though was WORD: Striker. PAARTALU: Goals. WILLIAMS: Shots. Says all you need to know about him haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzaverx Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 tbh i dont even mind him. Sure he has his moments but i genuinely think he's a decent bloke who loves the club. Unfortunately that doesnt make you a good player.. and agree has been a shadow of himself this season. But he is a big game player and I do believe he can prove himself worthy of his spot if he lifts his game come finals. I like him. Always have. But he has a lot to play for this derby and next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Did anyone see the Fox Sports word association video Melbourne City posted? Willo Paartalu and Chapman all took part and their answers were pretty funny. WORD: Finals. PAARTALU: City winning it all. CHAPMAN: City winning it all. WILLIAMS: Series. The best one though was WORD: Striker. PAARTALU: Goals. WILLIAMS: Shots. Says all you need to know about him haha I laughed a lot at this too ahaha Needs to come on at around the 60th minute mark this Friday as he pretty much always makes an impact as a sub. We can't really afford to have a guy who can't take his chances in the starting XI as I can see us only getting a few. So who are you starting ahead of him again? Surely we can save the vitriol till after the 17th. There's no vitriol, I'm just contributing to the discussion and to be fair, I've been one of his staunchest defenders on here in the past. I just think he's terribly out of form and even he acknowledges it (see recent A-League chants video on FB), and we all know how good he is coming off the bench. As for who would start ahead of him, well that's half the problem... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R410 Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Duga fit enough to take his spot? at least he can put crosses on JK's head all day. Edited May 6, 2015 by R410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 He's due a good game and if he has it, he can win the match for us ... but if he doesn't we have several other match winners in our squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Hi Nate. The comment about "vitriol" wasn't really directed at you, just the trend of the thread. I think JVS knows what we all know - Willo hasn't had the best season but for better or worse he's the best option he has right now. Edited May 6, 2015 by Shahanga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted May 6, 2015 Report Share Posted May 6, 2015 Hi Nate. The comment about "vitriol" wasn't really directed at you, just the trend of the thread. I think JVS knows what we all know - Willo hasn't had the best season but for better or worse he's the best option he has right now. Fair enough indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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