MHFC-FAN Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Just confirmed by City that he's off to Celtic. New record Australian transfer fee. Five-year contract - wow! https://melbournecityfc.com.au/news/20230630-marco-tilio-departs?lid=lytbuw73o7ir Must have beaten you to it by seconds... 🙃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityWildcat Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 I do hope he fares better than Arzani..... the SPL may be average overall, but Celtic is a genuinely huge club (I worked in Glasgow for five years) and it's a miniscule fee they have paid by their standards. He won't be strolling straight into the 11. I also hope that Kewell's job security there is not integral to his future success.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 12 hours ago, MHFC-FAN said: Must have beaten you to it by seconds... 🙃 Literally! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 How much is the record breaking transfer fee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr MO said: How much is the record breaking transfer fee? I read somewhere "around $2m." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 43 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I read somewhere "around $2m." In excess of 2m could be as much as 2.5m some reports have said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 17 hours ago, CityWildcat said: I do hope he fares better than Arzani..... the SPL may be average overall, but Celtic is a genuinely huge club (I worked in Glasgow for five years) and it's a miniscule fee they have paid by their standards. He won't be strolling straight into the 11. I also hope that Kewell's job security there is not integral to his future success.... Read somewhere which made a good point Arzani was 'dumped' at Celtic whereas they've gone and signed Tilio themselves so actually wanted him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr MO said: How much is the record breaking transfer fee? Believe Bos got around 1.9 mill. The reports say Tilio has eclipsed that figure for a new A-league transfer record! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 They reckon tillio might go somewhere on loan in January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted November 20, 2023 Report Share Posted November 20, 2023 11 hours ago, citypool said: They reckon tillio might go somewhere on loan in January He's doing the Daniel Arzani 2.0 edition... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 7 hours ago, MHFC-FAN said: He's doing the Daniel Arzani 2.0 edition... Tilio had a bigger engine and more goals than Arzani. I wouldn't mind if he was at City on loan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 6 hours ago, NewConvert said: Tilio had a bigger engine and more goals than Arzani. I wouldn't mind if he was at City on loan. His attitude is significantly better too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Daniel Arzani is the perfect example of a talented young player receiving poor advice and ultimately making several career-limiting decisions (or having them made for him). Whatever his engine size or attitudes, properly advised and managed he could have done a lot better than he has done. And he's not alone, unfortunately. Sport is a good servant but a cruel master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted November 22, 2023 Report Share Posted November 22, 2023 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: Daniel Arzani is the perfect example of a talented young player receiving poor advice and ultimately making several career-limiting decisions (or having them made for him). Whatever his engine size or attitudes, properly advised and managed he could have done a lot better than he has done. And he's not alone, unfortunately. Sport is a good servant but a cruel master. Tbh, I think having a poor attitude and following poor advice are somewhat correlated. Arzani seemed to be a player who was more interested in the symptoms of success (e.g. the fame and fortune that comes with being a top player) than achieving success in his career itself. When you are focusing on the symptoms of success, you will make choices that appear to be making big steps forwards to achieving those, but which may ultimately be detrimental to achieving said career success. If Arzani, was serious about the sucess of his career he potentially would have opted to stay in the A league for another season to continue his development and work on his deficiencies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 I think twice he (Tilio) made the pass before the assist for two of the goals in the last game, he looks like a player coming back into fitness, but he had a pretty good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) Apparently he's not happy at Celtic and is looking to come home. Would take back in a heartbeat Edited December 30, 2023 by kingofhearts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 37 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: Apparently he's not happy at Celtic and is looking to come home. Would take back in a heartbeat Went to the wrong club. O'Neill, Bos & Metcalfe are getting regular starts at smaller clubs and all are improving. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Cooper Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, kingofhearts said: Apparently he's not happy at Celtic and is looking to come home. Would take back in a heartbeat Suck it up and work harder. It’s a test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 31 minutes ago, NewConvert said: Went to the wrong club. O'Neill, Bos & Metcalfe are getting regular starts at smaller clubs and all are improving. Absolutely. And the wrong town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart1011 Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 I said to my mate when he was leaving that I could almost see a repeat of Arzani in a way. Definitely should have followed in Bos's and O'Neil footsteps at a club he would actually be in the starting 11. Even somewhere like Hearts with Atkinson but Celtic I feel wasn't the right move at this stage of his career. I genuinely hope it works out for him because unlike Arzani he wasn't a complete fucking twat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/marco-tilio-receives-multiple-celtic-31772035 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 I hope we can get him back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted December 31, 2023 Report Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) It always looked like a move that he would struggle to get great Gametime, although there are better teams in Europe. Celtic is one of the hardest to break into cause they never lose and need to change the team. I also don't think it was a terrible move though, like Arzani it would be hard for when a team of that stature comes calling to knock them back and say nah I'll go somewhere worse, you take the opportunity when it comes. If we can get him back for 6 months give him some gametime, and hopefully he will be better equipped to go back and have another shot at it Edited December 31, 2023 by neio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 I want my green line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 3 hours ago, NuggetsMcGreggor said: I want my green line For what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted January 1 Report Share Posted January 1 13 hours ago, Mr MO said: For what? For predicting this in September Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 8 hours ago, NuggetsMcGreggor said: For predicting this in September I don't see any evidence of this prediction in this thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 It’s in the transfers thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 On 31/12/2023 at 11:34 AM, neio said: It always looked like a move that he would struggle to get great Gametime, although there are better teams in Europe. Celtic is one of the hardest to break into cause they never lose and need to change the team. I also don't think it was a terrible move though, like Arzani it would be hard for when a team of that stature comes calling to knock them back and say nah I'll go somewhere worse, you take the opportunity when it comes. If we can get him back for 6 months give him some gametime, and hopefully he will be better equipped to go back and have another shot at it Somewhere worse? I rate the SNL just above the A-League. Neither Celtic nor Rangers are feeder clubs to bigger clubs. They are dead ends. I recall last season when Ange was coaching Celtic and someone pointed out yet again that the easybeats of the Champions League were Celtic and Rangers. Even the Ukrainian team was better and they are a country at war for fighting for survival. I get it if a big club comes a knocking and you want the money. But if Tilio's intentions were to improve his long term career prospects then he needed better advisers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Ouch, that's a bit harsh isn't it? Celtic won the European Cup(forerunner of the CL) in 1967. The population of Scotland only just exceeds that of Melbourne. Only 6 English clubs have won it. Liverpool (6), ManU (3), ManC (1), Chelsea(2), Forest(2) and Villa(1.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: Ouch, that's a bit harsh isn't it? Celtic won the European Cup(forerunner of the CL) in 1967. The population of Scotland only just exceeds that of Melbourne. Only 6 English clubs have won it. Liverpool (6), ManU (3), ManC (1), Chelsea(2), Forest(2) and Villa(1.) 1967? Iron Butterfly had just formed and did not even have a record contract. Players were mostly amateur with real full time jobs. And it still does not counter the fact that the SNL does not produce players for bigger clubs. And outside of Celtic & Rangers the remaining clubs could just slide into the same table positions in the A-League. Hence Tilio made a poor decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 15 hours ago, NewConvert said: 1967? Iron Butterfly had just formed and did not even have a record contract. Players were mostly amateur with real full time jobs. And it still does not counter the fact that the SNL does not produce players for bigger clubs. And outside of Celtic & Rangers the remaining clubs could just slide into the same table positions in the A-League. Hence Tilio made a poor decision. If you use that argument, then the only trophies of any worth are those won now. Celtic won in 1967 against clubs of the time, and therefore in my mind that success is equal to anything in the same competition both before and after. And I am no fan whatsoever of Celtic. I hold my view for all successes, football or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 7 hours ago, jw1739 said: If you use that argument, then the only trophies of any worth are those won now. Celtic won in 1967 against clubs of the time, and therefore in my mind that success is equal to anything in the same competition both before and after. And I am no fan whatsoever of Celtic. I hold my view for all successes, football or not. Wasn't referring to trophies won now. Was referring as to how long ago it was. Most people on this forum would not have a clue who Iron Butterfly were nor why they are important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 On 03/01/2024 at 8:19 AM, NuggetsMcGreggor said: It’s in the transfers thread Unfortunatrly, green lines are for purported inside knowledge only, not predictions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 3 hours ago, NewConvert said: Wasn't referring to trophies won now. Was referring as to how long ago it was. Most people on this forum would not have a clue who Iron Butterfly were nor why they are important. Count me in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 10 hours ago, jw1739 said: Count me in. Iron Butterfly which had the 16 minute single In Da Gaaden Da Vida is considered the first heavy metal/hard rock album. No Iron Butterfly, no Deep Purple, no Ozzie Osbourne (and others in that genre). An alternative measure is that was at least 5 generations ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Hack Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 2 hours ago, NewConvert said: Iron Butterfly which had the 16 minute single In Da Gaaden Da Vida is considered the first heavy metal/hard rock album. No Iron Butterfly, no Deep Purple, no Ozzie Osbourne (and others in that genre). An alternative measure is that was at least 5 generations ago. Born in 67 so I know that's ancient! The point is that Tilio should have looked at a club where he'd have more of a chance of first team football. I mean he had Arzani as a template on what could happen at Celtic although by the same thinking Rogic was also a positive example. I just felt at the time it wasn't a great fit as he's more Arzani than Rogic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 4 Report Share Posted January 4 2 hours ago, NewConvert said: Iron Butterfly which had the 16 minute single In Da Gaaden Da Vida is considered the first heavy metal/hard rock album. No Iron Butterfly, no Deep Purple, no Ozzie Osbourne (and others in that genre). An alternative measure is that was at least 5 generations ago. Hahaha - never heard of any of the above...!! BTW, isn't a generation 21 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 16 hours ago, malloy said: Unfortunatrly, green lines are for purported inside knowledge only, not predictions. Pfft. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: Hahaha - never heard of any of the above...!! BTW, isn't a generation 21 years? I hope you would have heard of the terms hard rock & heavy metal! Last time I had checked a generation was 7 years then increased to 9 years. A web search now has a generation anywhere between 15 to 21 years - so depending on that score there are approximately between 2.5 through to 4 generations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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