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Does Georgievski count as an Australian since he was born here? If so why would we downgrade to Safuwan and use a visa place? We need specialists in each position. Enough signing centre backs to plays as lb's or DM.

It's good Georgievski has mongrel in him. We need more of it. And he has already proven himself to be a key part of a team that can win the title. As opposed to Safuwan who proved he can play a bit part role in several positions and will probably get sent off regularly and concede needless penalties due to his love of diving in. Yeah he is good in the air and will score a few but Georgievski will score a few as well and is better with his feet by a mile. We've got enough aerial threats in Kennedy, Kisnorbo and Paartalu.

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Does Georgievski count as an Australian since he was born here? If so why would we downgrade to Safuwan and use a visa place? We need specialists in each position. Enough signing centre backs to plays as lb's or DM.

It's good Georgievski has mongrel in him. We need more of it. And he has already proven himself to be a key part of a team that can win the title. As opposed to Safuwan who proved he can play a bit part role in several positions and will probably get sent off regularly and concede needless penalties due to his love of diving in. Yeah he is good in the air and will score a few but Georgievski will score a few as well and is better with his feet by a mile. We've got enough aerial threats in Kennedy, Kisnorbo and Paartalu.

Think we were comparing saf with the cripple known as Germano
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The other good thing about Georgievski is that he had hand in several other goals, not as assists but playing the prior pass to set up the assist.

 

Left back for the champions who is a proven player in this league, stays fit, can defend, can score goals, can set up goals, and is on a free transfer.  What is there to think about, just sign him up.

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The other good thing about Georgievski is that he had hand in several other goals, not as assists but playing the prior pass to set up the assist.

 

Left back for the champions who is a proven player in this league, stays fit, can defend, can score goals, can set up goals, and is on a free transfer.  What is there to think about, just sign him up.

The only thing to think about is ultimately the cost and cap space

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Checked back here and surprised that this thread is still active. And yes, Saf was on fire the previous game with 2 goals, but missed out today's 0-0 draw against Japan for personal reasons.

STILL hoping somehow he goes back to MC, but i do think it's somewhat true that he isn't a definite starter in any position in the squad right now, esp with the signing of Ivan Franjic. And I do wish he was given the chance to show what he can do as a CB. Do you guys still want updates on the lad from time to time?

 

Meanwhile my MC jersey has finally arrived.  :)

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Checked back here and surprised that this thread is still active. And yes, Saf was on fire the previous game with 2 goals, but missed out today's 0-0 draw against Japan for personal reasons.

 

 

Meanwhile my MC jersey has finally arrived.  :)

Reports say that your GK was pretty amazing, we could do with a keeper like that.

 

nice

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Checked back here and surprised that this thread is still active. And yes, Saf was on fire the previous game with 2 goals, but missed out today's 0-0 draw against Japan for personal reasons.

 

 

Meanwhile my MC jersey has finally arrived.  :)

Reports say that your GK was pretty amazing, we could do with a keeper like that.

 

nice

 

 

Izwan Mahbud's reflexes has always been his strong point. https://youtu.be/Dq_7l8yCjZk?list=FLabt9bhoCo3zZ_WbkxQz5hg

 

I think Tando Velaphi is good enough, dont you think?

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Safuwan would be a decent utility to have if he wasn't a visa player, but anyone who thinks he is half the player of Georgievski or Germano is kidding themselves. When Germano is fit he is an excellent player by A-league standards, his quality has never been an issue, only his fitness.

If we have a spare visa spot when all our other signings are complete then by all means sign Safuwan, but I dare say we have better uses for our visa spots.

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Safuwan would be a decent utility to have if he wasn't a visa player, but anyone who thinks he is half the player of Georgievski or Germano is kidding themselves. When Germano is fit he is an excellent player by A-league standards, his quality has never been an issue, only his fitness.

If we have a spare visa spot when all our other signings are complete then by all means sign Safuwan, but I dare say we have better uses for our visa spots.

 

I tend to agree with this but I would add a couple of provisos: he is still young and most of our visa players tend to be of the ageing variety with varying degrees of quality/impact; he would be a great ambassador for the CFG in SE Asia, thus expanding the marketability of the clubs.

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Safuwan would be a decent utility to have if he wasn't a visa player, but anyone who thinks he is half the player of Georgievski or Germano is kidding themselves. When Germano is fit he is an excellent player by A-league standards, his quality has never been an issue, only his fitness.

If we have a spare visa spot when all our other signings are complete then by all means sign Safuwan, but I dare say we have better uses for our visa spots.

I tend to agree with this but I would add a couple of provisos: he is still young and most of our visa players tend to be of the ageing variety with varying degrees of quality/impact; he would be a great ambassador for the CFG in SE Asia, thus expanding the marketability of the clubs. Honestly, who gives a shit about marketability and being an ambassador for asia just sign whoever will help us win more football games regardless of race.

And fwiw he is better then germano

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Safuwan would be a decent utility to have if he wasn't a visa player, but anyone who thinks he is half the player of Georgievski or Germano is kidding themselves. When Germano is fit he is an excellent player by A-league standards, his quality has never been an issue, only his fitness.

If we have a spare visa spot when all our other signings are complete then by all means sign Safuwan, but I dare say we have better uses for our visa spots.

I tend to agree with this but I would add a couple of provisos: he is still young and most of our visa players tend to be of the ageing variety with varying degrees of quality/impact; he would be a great ambassador for the CFG in SE Asia, thus expanding the marketability of the clubs. Honestly, who gives a shit about marketability and being an ambassador for asia just sign whoever will help us win more football games regardless of race.

And fwiw he is better then germano

 

Was about to give you a like until I read that last sentence. Germano is so much better.

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Safuwan would be a decent utility to have if he wasn't a visa player, but anyone who thinks he is half the player of Georgievski or Germano is kidding themselves. When Germano is fit he is an excellent player by A-league standards, his quality has never been an issue, only his fitness.

If we have a spare visa spot when all our other signings are complete then by all means sign Safuwan, but I dare say we have better uses for our visa spots.

I tend to agree with this but I would add a couple of provisos: he is still young and most of our visa players tend to be of the ageing variety with varying degrees of quality/impact; he would be a great ambassador for the CFG in SE Asia, thus expanding the marketability of the clubs. Honestly, who gives a shit about marketability and being an ambassador for asia just sign whoever will help us win more football games regardless of race.

And fwiw he is better then germano

 

Was about to give you a like until I read that last sentence. Germano is so much better.

 

Germano is more versatile yes but i reckon Safuwan is as good if not better when played at RB compared to Germano.

 

It's a shame because if they both played a full season together i don't think that the skill gap is very big between the two as people make it out on here IMO. 

 

The guy scored 2 goals in 5 games, probably could've given him a go in striker lol, he probably would've won the golden boot this year!

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Safuwan would be a decent utility to have if he wasn't a visa player, but anyone who thinks he is half the player of Georgievski or Germano is kidding themselves. When Germano is fit he is an excellent player by A-league standards, his quality has never been an issue, only his fitness.

If we have a spare visa spot when all our other signings are complete then by all means sign Safuwan, but I dare say we have better uses for our visa spots.

I tend to agree with this but I would add a couple of provisos: he is still young and most of our visa players tend to be of the ageing variety with varying degrees of quality/impact; he would be a great ambassador for the CFG in SE Asia, thus expanding the marketability of the clubs.

Honestly, who gives a shit about marketability and being an ambassador for asia just sign whoever will help us win more football games regardless of race.

And fwiw he is better then germano

 

Was about to give you a like until I read that last sentence. Germano is so much better.

 

Germano is more versatile yes but i reckon Safuwan is as good if not better when played at RB compared to Germano.

 

It's a shame because if they both played a full season together i don't think that the skill gap is very big between the two as people make it out on here IMO. 

 

The guy scored 2 goals in 5 games, probably could've given him a go in striker lol, he probably would've won the golden boot this year!

A few more things - there is the very good possibility that Safuwan can improve because he will be playing (I presume) in a better league. Although I am quite happy about Germano's ability I am not sure whether his skills will improve much.

As for who gives about marketability shit? Well I don't and as you stated neither do you, BUT I suspect that CFG do. After all this is a business investment with an international market and if you could expand your merchandising sales to SE Asia all the better.

 

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I know this is not the right place to put it in but wtf happened to the layout of this forum? I can't even see where quotes and multi quotes have been used. Makes it so confusing.

And where has my "Warning" gone? I wanted that on as it made me look like a badass

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I know this is not the right place to put it in but wtf happened to the layout of this forum? I can't even see where quotes and multi quotes have been used. Makes it so confusing.

And where has my "Warning" gone? I wanted that on as it made me look like a badass

Bloody hell.  I thought the old system had everything I wanted and I was comfortable with it. This is just like Microsoft and Windows 7/8, looks fancy but loses functionality.  Why do people always have to try and "improve" things.

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Colors are too bright, quotes/multiquotes have mysteriously vanished and overall layout does not look good. But that's not to say I won't keep posting.

Tony, give Tesla a chance mate.

There's a thread for "Forum Changes" in the Forum entitled "Meta." Go there and you will see that Tes is addressing the issue of quotes, and Niko explains that theme "mf" is easier on the eyes.

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Colors are too bright, quotes/multiquotes have mysteriously vanished and overall layout does not look good. But that's not to say I won't keep posting.

Tony, give Tesla a chance mate.

There's a thread for "Forum Changes" in the Forum entitled "Meta." Go there and you will see that Tes is addressing the issue of quotes, and Niko explains that theme "mf" is easier on the eyes.

Ah - If its being done "in house" by Tesla then I have faith.  Thought it was formatting forced on us by a packaged product.

Sorry Tesla

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Safuwan started on his first Malaysian Super League match tonight against ATM FA.

Helping LionsXII with a 3-1 win. Safuwan scores once and assist another.

Safuwan today played in three different position, as a center back, central midfielder and also center forward! 

Match Highlights - > http://bit.ly/1H5rgpd 

Safuwan scoring the second goal(as a central midfielder), and assist the third goal(as a center forward).

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Safuwan should leave LionsXII to go overseas says former City captain

 

2/07/2015

By Jason Dasey

 

'You're too good to not be playing overseas.' That's the message to Singapore international Safuwan Baharudin from his former Melbourne City captain Patrick Kisnorbo, the ex-Leicester City and Leeds United defender.

Safuwan spent three months with the A-League side earlier this year, playing six competitive games as part of a loan deal from LionsXII. He scored two goals and helped the sister club of English giants, Manchester City, secure a play-off spot.

Apart from Safuwan's debut against Melbourne Victory on Feb. 7 when he was used as a midfielder, the 23-year-old played as a left or right fullback alongside central defender Kisnorbo in the Melbourne City back four. And the City skipper was impressed by what he saw

"Safuwan is a great player who can play in the A-League with any club," Kisnorbo told ESPN FC. "He is versatile and can fit into any team environment. He is a winner and someone that has a tremendous desire to learn.

"His best attributes were working in our team environment where he was able to adapt very quickly. He was very trustworthy which is very important in playing in defence."

Safuwan cut short his A-League stay at the end of April citing a back injury, yet returned to LionsXII duty in the Malaysia Super League (MSL) within two weeks. He's continued his goal-scoring form with LionsXII -- he was on the scoresheet in the 2-1 defeat at PDRM last Saturday while grabbing a brace in the Singapore national team's 4-0 victory in Cambodia last month -- and was part of the successful Malaysia FA Cup winning team on May 23.

Kisnorbo, who has earned 18 international caps for Australia and played alongside captain Lucas Neill at the 2007 AFC Asian Cup in Thailand, was sorry to see Safuwan go.

"Safuwan should test himself to go to the best level he can," he said. "He should play wherever he will improve.


"He is a player that I'm happy to say was great around the dressing room and helped the team a lot in pressure games which shows the kind of character that he has."

Kisnorbo, 34, who also played in the Scottish Premier League with Edinburgh club Hearts, recently signed a one-year contract extension with Melbourne City, a club he joined in 2013.

His career highlights include being named Leeds United Player of the Year in 2009-10, being part of a Leeds side that knocked out Manchester United from the FA Cup that same season, and scoring his first international goal in 2009 as Australia faced South Korea in Seoul.

He added that he would be open to a move to Asia at the completion of his Melbourne City contract. "I've never played Asian club football so this might be a good experience for me in the future," he said.

"But for now, I'm focusing on the upcoming A-League season with Melbourne City."

Safuwan's next assignment is a MSL home game against Kelantan at Jalan Besar Stadium on Saturday in what is a rematch of May's FA Cup final.

 

http://www.espnfcasia.com/blog/football-asia/153/post/2510407/safuwan-should-leave-lionsxii-to-go-overseas-says-ex-skipper

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Interesting. The way I read it there's our captain telling our coach that we should have kept Saf.

i didn't get that at all. i think paddy is saying "this guy is a good player, and should be playing in a better league." the reason he isn't playing for us is because we have only got a certain number of visa player spots, in a league that doesn't have such restrictions he'd be a worthy squad member.

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Come get me: Safuwan

 

3 July 2015

Sanjay Nair

 

Safuwan Baharudin wants a second shot at the A-League and has urged more of his compatriots to test themselves further afield.

The defender made regional headlines in January by being the first Singaporean to play in Australia's top league, joining Melbourne City on a three-month loan. However, he returned prematurely in April after suffering a back injury.

"I have unfinished business there, I would love to return to Melbourne if they want me," the 23-year-old told The Straits Times. "If another A-League club comes calling, I would consider it too, even if it's a short-term contract."

Yesterday, Safuwan - who was also the first Asean player to play in the A-League since Thai forward Sutee Suksomkit in 2009 - received some encouraging news from Down Under.

In an interview with ESPN FC, Melbourne City captain Patrick Kisnorbo said the Singaporean was "too good to not be playing overseas", referring to him as "a great player who can play in the A-League with any club".

The former Australia international praised his versatility and desire to learn - traits which made Safuwan a quick fan favourite at the sister club of former English champions Manchester City.

In six A-League appearances in a variety of positions, he scored twice and earned a Man-of-the- Match award, helping Melbourne City achieve their highest-ever finish of fifth.

Safuwan was all set to feature in their play-off run alongside team-mates such as former Chelsea star Damien Duff until he injured his spine against Wellington Phoenix on April 12.

The Singapore international was ruled out of the rest of the A-League season, and was subsequently released from his contract.

Yet, he returned to LionsXII duty in the Malaysia Super League (MSL) within two weeks, sparking rumours of personal issues or his inability to settle in Melbourne.

Safuwan denied the claims, noting how his wife Alia Qistina had given up her air stewardess job to stay at their furnished two-bedroom apartment in the Docklands.

"I had - and still have - the goal of living in Melbourne for a long time," said the former Singapore Sports School student, whose contract with the LionsXII expires at the end of the season.

"Australia has one of the best leagues in Asia and I want to test myself away from home.

"We need more Singaporeans playing around the world to boost our profile and improve our skills."

It is perhaps a different mindset from Singapore midfielder Hariss Harun, who reportedly turned down a move to Portuguese side Rio Ave in 2013, in favour of a more lucrative deal with MSL champions Johor Darul Takzim.

LionsXII goalkeeper Izwan Mahbud - also a Johor target - faces a similar choice after being offered a trial at J-League club Matsumoto Yamaga following his stellar display in the Lions' 0-0 World Cup qualifying draw against Japan earlier this month.

Safuwan's own prospects look promising ahead of the new A-League season, which will kick off in October.

Just two of the 10 teams have filled their quota of five foreign players so far. Melbourne City, coached by Dutchman John van't Schip, have two available slots.

Safuwan had earned his first stint after impressing in the club's mid-season training camp that was held in Abu Dhabi.

He said: "I don't think I need another trial. I hope my time there has proven my ability to mix it with the best in Australia.

"My message to them is, 'Come and get me, I'm listening'."

 

 http://www.straitstimes.com/sport/football/come-get-me-safuwan

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i didn't get that at all. i think paddy is saying "this guy is a good player, and should be playing in a better league." the reason he isn't playing for us is because we have only got a certain number of visa player spots, in a league that doesn't have such restrictions he'd be a worthy squad member.

I'm inclined to agree with jw.

"Safuwan is a great player who can play in the A-League with any club," Kisnorbo told ESPN FC. "He is versatile and can fit into any team environment. He is a winner and someone that has a tremendous desire to learn.

He said he can play with any club in the A-League. Presumably, that includes us. I'm sure there's better visa players out there, but until I see one in the crosshairs, I would have gone with the guy who showed himself to be a quality panicked mid-season pickup for us and is the sort of player that could stick at an A-League club for 150 games, if they signed him now. It's all well and good to get a bunch of new players every season, but at some stage, we've got to get some foundation players that we can guarantee will be here 2-3 years from now. Who fits that description? Paartalu, as far as I can tell. That's it.

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I'm inclined to agree with jw.

 

He said he can play with any club in the A-League. Presumably, that includes us. I'm sure there's better visa players out there, but until I see one in the crosshairs, I would have gone with the guy who showed himself to be a quality panicked mid-season pickup for us and is the sort of player that could stick at an A-League club for 150 games, if they signed him now. It's all well and good to get a bunch of new players every season, but at some stage, we've got to get some foundation players that we can guarantee will be here 2-3 years from now. Who fits that description? Paartalu, as far as I can tell. That's it.

Agree with this. Plus Kisnorbo is not getting any younger and his contract finishes at season's end. Safuwan could be part of succession planning . Additionally, right now we have Hoffman as depth player which is not that great.

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If we pass Saf over after everything he's done for us and he goes to any other A-League club I shall be so completely pissed-off with van 't Schip and the rest of our football department. To think of some of the donkeys we've had wearing our colours and yet we may let this guy slip away...

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