silva10 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Struggled against Burns today, but never hid. Still tried to get forward and always looked for the ball. Will be a decent player for us in time. Also miles ahead of Hoffman in tenacity and quality Tesla!! For a bloke that's been watching barely a season you seem to be an authority on the Hoff. Hoff's no star, but he's got a few in this team covered no worries I am just giving my opinion on what I have seen. It has actually been over a year now that I have been watching the team. I know that others like you have seen him longer, so I bow to your knowledge before I saw him. However, I think now he is not good enough from what I have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Struggled against Burns today, but never hid. Still tried to get forward and always looked for the ball. Will be a decent player for us in time. Also miles ahead of Hoffman in tenacity and quality Tesla!!For a bloke that's been watching barely a season you seem to be an authority on the Hoff. Hoff's no star, but he's got a few in this team covered no worries I am just giving my opinion on what I have seen. It has actually been over a year now that I have been watching the team. I know that others like you have seen him longer, so I bow to your knowledge before I saw him. However, I think now he is not good enough from what I have seen. Fair enough, I just feel that you are influenced by those on here who can't get past the fact that Hoffman is not the player he was in seasons 1-3. IMO he's been very serviceable since he moved to RB, and 90% of the flak he cops is unwarranted, at least in comparison with others in the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Struggled against Burns today, but never hid. Still tried to get forward and always looked for the ball. Will be a decent player for us in time. Also miles ahead of Hoffman in tenacity and quality Tesla!! For a bloke that's been watching barely a season you seem to be an authority on the Hoff. Hoff's no star, but he's got a few in this team covered no worries I am just giving my opinion on what I have seen. It has actually been over a year now that I have been watching the team. I know that others like you have seen him longer, so I bow to your knowledge before I saw him. However, I think now he is not good enough from what I have seen. Fair enough, I just feel that you are influenced by those on here who can't get past the fact that Hoffman is not the player he was in seasons 1-3. IMO he's been very serviceable since he moved to RB, and 90% of the flak he cops is unwarranted, at least in comparison with others in the team I don't let others influence me. This is just my honest opinion of Hoffman. I have seen him constantly give the ball away this season, miss tackles and look completely devoid of any confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Kudos to this bloke. Managed to turn many opinions of him around (including mine) and earn himself a new contract. Still no world beater, but a very serviceable squaddie nowadays 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, bt50 said: Kudos to this bloke. Managed to turn many opinions of him around (including mine) and earn himself a new contract. Still no world beater, but a very serviceable squaddie nowadays Suits a 3 5 2 formation as well, quicker than both Hughes and Kisnorbo so adds that cover and also prefers CB anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Dylan said: Suits a 3 5 2 formation as well, quicker than both Hughes and Kisnorbo so adds that cover and also prefers CB anyway Got a bit of cunt to him too, which is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 52 minutes ago, Embee said: Got a bit of cunt to him too, which is good Oh dear, he should be playing for the womens team then 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 5, 2016 Report Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, belaguttman said: Oh dear, he should be playing for the womens team then Thanks for that, it was hard enough to pretend I was doing work without laughing like an idiot for apparently no reason 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matinclattenberg1 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 He needs his own chant, he will make game saving tackles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Has turned himself from forum whipping boy to a solid squad player Well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronAV11 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Matinclattenberg1 said: He needs his own chant, he will make game saving tackles he's got one, there's only one jack clisby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 He's from Perth He's got Red hair He'll snap your legs so be aware Clisby, he's Jack Clisby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruckoo Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 Most improved player IMO, has been great last 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediCapitalist Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Does anyone remember a game where Clisby doesn't get booked? The bloke uses his studs like a weapon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, JediCapitalist said: Does anyone remember a game where Clisby doesn't get booked? The bloke uses his studs like a weapon. Would like to know @Tesla s thoughts on him considering he thought Baharudin was a walking red card. Clisbys way worse imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) 27 minutes ago, hedaik said: Would like to know @Tesla s thoughts on him considering he thought Baharudin was a walking red card. Clisbys way worse imo. My comments regarding Clisby have focused more on his general shitness rather than anything specific. The difference with Baharudin is that he was actually a handy player, apart from looking like a walking red card. Clisby, on the other hand, is just all round shit so it wasn't worth commenting on. I think I summed up Clisby well previously: On 14/02/2015 at 3:37 PM, Tesla said: Jeremy Walker level. Edited January 16, 2016 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 @Tesla Don't you think he's turned a corner though? I admit I thought he had absolutely no hope of being a serviceable A-League player but over the last few months he's definitely changed my mind. Has been close to MOTM in a few matches. Form still a bit patchy but is showing there's some talent there now. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just now, Jimmy said: @Tesla Don't you think he's turned a corner though? I admit I thought he had absolutely no hope of being a serviceable A-League player but over the last few months he's definitely changed my mind. Has been close to MOTM in a few matches. Form still a bit patchy but is showing there's some talent there now. Conveniently this supposed up turn in form was while I was overseas and not watching our matches. You're all lying as far as I'm concerned 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 18 minutes ago, Jimmy said: @Tesla Don't you think he's turned a corner though? I admit I thought he had absolutely no hope of being a serviceable A-League player but over the last few months he's definitely changed my mind. Has been close to MOTM in a few matches. Form still a bit patchy but is showing there's some talent there now. Completely agreed. I used to be on Clisby as a bit of a joke but over the last couple months he has genuinely impressed me, sure he still makes mistakes but he has made a couple of great tackles each game I'd say. Definitely a solid option and glad he got a new contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Another solid performance. Thought Paartalu did well again as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I'd suck him off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just now, marn11 said: I'd suck him off. If he accepted my bloody Facebook friend request I would 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 5 hours ago, Tesla said: Conveniently this supposed up turn in form was while I was overseas and not watching our matches. You're all lying as far as I'm concerned Indeed, how convenient... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I was one of Clisby's biggest critics but I'll concede that he's really impressed me over the last month and a bit. Was lucky not to be sent off last night though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I think I made mention of Clisby being a walking yellow card last season I'm not going back to find the post to prove or disprove Sure he has his inadequacies and limitations, that's why he is playing A League and not in Europe one thing I will give him credit for is : he gives 100% to the shirt every time he steps on the pitch, sure he flies into tackles, but he makes most of them. one thing is certain, the player he tackles knows that he is there and thinks twice the nest time he receives the ball 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 28 minutes ago, japiedog said: I think I made mention of Clisby being a walking yellow card last season I'm not going back to find the post to prove or disprove Sure he has his inadequacies and limitations, that's why he is playing A League and not in Europe one thing I will give him credit for is : he gives 100% to the shirt every time he steps on the pitch, sure he flies into tackles, but he makes most of them. one thing is certain, the player he tackles knows that he is there and thinks twice the nest time he receives the ball Agree with this. And whilst I agree he makes rash challenges and often looks like he is red card waiting to happen, its worth noting in his 24 appearances for us he hasn't been sent off once, and has been yellow carded just 9 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 9 yellows from 24 starts is basically inexperienced enthusiasm. His first dozen games were a joke but tbf his last 6 or so have been very good in comparison. I still cringe every time he has the ball and his positioning especially when playing centrally has improved but like Chapman i can't remember him winning many headers. He deserves to start at the moment and if he improves then he may turn into a durable A League player and may notch 100+ games. All up he's moved up in my reckoning from shit to not bad bordering average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 His biggest problem to work on is his propensity to slide in to a tackle, if he misses it then a player has breached our defence with Clisby having removed himself from the play. If he mistimes it he gets a card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 4 hours ago, belaguttman said: His biggest problem to work on is his propensity to slide in to a tackle, if he misses it then a player has breached our defence with Clisby having removed himself from the play. If he mistimes it he gets a card. Key fundamentals when learning the game especially in defense. Must stay on your feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Jovan said: Must stay on your feet. Yes and no. Slide tackling (if done well) can save goals, dispossess opponents and start counter-attacks. Kisnorbo slides very well in the box and has prevented a fair few goals. Paartalu combines both forms of tackling quite well too. Clisby is a work-in-progress but he has the right mindset. He is sure of himself when he tackles, even if he does misjudge some. He is improving just about every week for mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 I fucking love Clisby. I used to find him so frustrating to watch but by god has he come into his own. Rate him very highly and honestly think he'll just keep improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) I've always liked Clisby. I don't think he's any different now compared to before. It's just that some people have a less biased view of him now. I particularly like his confident attitude and for a young player that's great. Of course he's not perfect and learning his trade but I think he will improve with experience of some of the older guys around. Edited January 18, 2016 by Ray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 10 minutes ago, Ray said: I've always liked Clisby. I don't think he's any different now compared to before. It's just that some people have a less biased view of him now. I particularly like his confident attitude and for a young player that's great. Of course he's not perfect and learning his trade but I think he will improve with experience of some of the older guys around. I'd have to disagree there. One simple comparison is to look at his first derby defending compared to the last one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Was very average early on. His last few games he has been pretty good. Accumulation of yellows he has lost his spot. Looking forward imo I would start him ahead of Zullo in a back 4, obviously he's more likely with 3 cbs. I know Zullo offers more going forward but overall he hasn't really demanded a starting spot. Also another point with the 433 Mooy played better similar to early season and was alot deeper at times and alternatively Novillo looked less effective compared to when we played 352. Just wondering whether the changed formation had a direct factor in both Novillos and Mooy's performance Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 20 minutes ago, Jovan said: Also another point with the 433 Mooy played better similar to early season and was alot deeper at times and alternatively Novillo looked less effective compared to when we played 352. Just wondering whether the changed formation had a direct factor in both Novillos and Mooy's performance Saturday. I think so mate. So how do we get the best of both of them whilst making sure our defence is soild? Do we look at a 4-4-2? Or 4-2-2-2? or???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 6 hours ago, rass said: I think so mate. So how do we get the best of both of them whilst making sure our defence is soild? Do we look at a 4-4-2? Or 4-2-2-2? or???? I think Harry should just play narrower - ie we should play lop sided with Fitzy like a traditional winger and Harry playing more like an inside left (remember them?) going forward. We would get our width by the left back overlapping. My 2 cents 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 8 hours ago, rass said: I think so mate. So how do we get the best of both of them whilst making sure our defence is soild? Do we look at a 4-4-2? Or 4-2-2-2? or???? Move Harry to the right. Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, malloy said: Move Harry to the right. Simples. JVS at first.... JVS after.... ....ahh no chance Edited February 15, 2016 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Its less about the actual formation than it is about the way the players are used, what runs Harry is asked to make, which part of the field in attack or defence, how much defensive work versus forward runs. This can be refined, well, at least by the next coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just now, belaguttman said: Its less about the actual formation than it is about the way the players are used, what runs Harry is asked to make, which part of the field in attack or defence, how much defensive work versus forward runs. This can be refined, well, at least by the next coach I agree, but a player can't do what they need to do if they are playing on the wrong part of the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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