Hanz Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 On 15/6/2022 at 12:31 PM, Baka1 said: So ah when are we signing Mooy? 👀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 https://www.transfermarkt.com/ryan-edmondson/profil/spieler/559806 Could be a stretch but this player just recently started following Melbourne City on Instagram 6'2 21 Year Old England Youth International, if the player is signing no idea if its a loan from leeds or a permanent deal but could be a handy backup to Maclaren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Zanty said: https://www.transfermarkt.com/ryan-edmondson/profil/spieler/559806 Could be a stretch but this player just recently started following Melbourne City on Instagram 6'2 21 Year Old England Youth International, if the player is signing no idea if its a loan from leeds or a permanent deal but could be a handy backup to Maclaren I rather we develop Raphael a bit more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Zanty said: https://www.transfermarkt.com/ryan-edmondson/profil/spieler/559806 Could be a stretch but this player just recently started following Melbourne City on Instagram 6'2 21 Year Old England Youth International, if the player is signing no idea if its a loan from leeds or a permanent deal but could be a handy backup to Maclaren He's been on a series of loans from Leeds, most recently with Port Vale in League 2. No thanks. We should not be wasting visa places on "back-ups." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 hours ago, NewConvert said: I rather we develop Raphael a bit more. Raphael more of a winger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 We will have 2-3 visa slots free next season (Depending on Pucciarelli staying or not) and realistically we are only going to use one Starting XI position on a visa which would be metcalfe's replacement, so the other 1-2 I dont mind, we dont even have a backup 9 atm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing_Moy Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 Azarni signing for Sydney Fc Apparantly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 They can have him tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Missing_Moy said: Azarni signing for Sydney Fc Apparantly What a massive slide this guy has had... I knew he left us way too soon and unsurprisingly flopped in Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 24 minutes ago, MHFC-FAN said: What a massive slide this guy has had... I knew he left us way too soon and unsurprisingly flopped in Europe My feeling is that it was the first move - to Celtic - that was the cause. The ACL injury was unfortunate, but Celtic was such a poor choice anyway. He'd have been better to go to a decent League 1 club where he had a chance of regular match time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 6 hours ago, jw1739 said: My feeling is that it was the first move - to Celtic - that was the cause. The ACL injury was unfortunate, but Celtic was such a poor choice anyway. He'd have been better to go to a decent League 1 club where he had a chance of regular match time. I reckon he would have been better of going to a league in continental europe rather than a british isles league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 My opinion is he would have been better to stay with us and perhaps play more than 30 minutes a game. He left with ability alone, not enough game time not enough resilience over 90 minutes. Not enough minutes in general. Basically, mirror the path Metcalfe and Atkinson have taken. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, n i k o said: My opinion is he would have been better to stay with us and perhaps play more than 30 minutes a game. He left with ability alone, not enough game time not enough resilience over 90 minutes. Not enough minutes in general. Basically, mirror the path Metcalfe and Atkinson have taken. Maybe so. But who's at fault here? He stayed within CFG and signed with Manchester City and it went wrong from there. Atkinson and Metcalfe have followed a different path. Atkinson is doing well and it remains to be seen how Metcalfe goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Maybe so. But who's at fault here? He stayed within CFG and signed with Manchester City and it went wrong from there. Atkinson and Metcalfe have followed a different path. Atkinson is doing well and it remains to be seen how Metcalfe goes. Atkinson and Metcalfe have been regular starters, Arzani wasn't. Arzani was coached by Wazza 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, belaguttman said: Atkinson and Metcalfe have been regular starters, Arzani wasn't. Arzani was coached by Wazza I suspect Wazza was actually good for Arzani. Think he needed that sort of discipline and structure. Just as Wazza got the best out of the fat Scotsman, who was a mess before and after, but brilliant and happy for us. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 4 hours ago, fensaddler said: I suspect Wazza was actually good for Arzani. Think he needed that sort of discipline and structure. Just as Wazza got the best out of the fat Scotsman, who was a mess before and after, but brilliant and happy for us. He certainly needed some discipline and structure, but from a coach who would improve him. I don't know what happened in training but, on the field during matches, Wazza seemed to always be telling him to do something different from what he was doing - that should have been happening during training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, belaguttman said: He certainly needed some discipline and structure, but from a coach who would improve him. I don't know what happened in training but, on the field during matches, Wazza seemed to always be telling him to do something different from what he was doing - that should have been happening during training Sounds familiar somehow...? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, belaguttman said: He certainly needed some discipline and structure, but from a coach who would improve him. I don't know what happened in training but, on the field during matches, Wazza seemed to always be telling him to do something different from what he was doing - that should have been happening during training My recollection of all the yelling Wazza directed towards Arzani was essentially yelling at him to track back n keep working. Which imo was warranted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, jw1739 said: Maybe so. But who's at fault here? He stayed within CFG and signed with Manchester City and it went wrong from there. Atkinson and Metcalfe have followed a different path. Atkinson is doing well and it remains to be seen how Metcalfe goes. I get the point, but from what id heard arzani had basically said he was going either way so cfg either decided they wanted to keep in the stable or they cashed in. And they kept him in the stable cos they thought he was good enough. Ultimately i think his downfall has been a combination of shit attitude and not finding his way back after doing his knee, which is far from uncommon. He def left at least one season too early and tbh, his tale has been almost the go to as far as cautionary ones go ever since; every talented kid geta pointed to arzani when they get a couple foreign offers. Edited June 19, 2022 by bt50 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 13 hours ago, jw1739 said: Maybe so. But who's at fault here? He stayed within CFG and signed with Manchester City and it went wrong from there. Atkinson and Metcalfe have followed a different path. Atkinson is doing well and it remains to be seen how Metcalfe goes. True Metcalfe hasn't played yet but as far as his playing career in the aleague is concerned he is an important part of the starting eleven, directly responsible for being part of a championship winning team for two seasons running, been capped for the socceroos. He's at a point where staying here probably won't accelerate his development without more challenging opposition. So for me how he goes is irrelevant to his decision to leave. Its 100% his time to give it a crack. Contrary to Arzani. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 19/6/2022 at 5:58 PM, malloy said: My recollection of all the yelling Wazza directed towards Arzani was essentially yelling at him to track back n keep working. Which imo was warranted. Yes, Arzani is a luxury player these days. All would be forgiven if he were scoring regularly, but he isn't. My point is that this should be coached in training, not during the match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 8 minutes ago, belaguttman said: Yes, Arzani is a luxury player these days. All would be forgiven if he were scoring regularly, but he isn't. My point is that this should be coached in training, not during the match I disagree to an extent. If a player isn't pulling their weight on the pitch the coach and team mates should tell them. Noting that its not a black and white scenario of just subbing them or dropping them next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 20, 2022 Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, malloy said: I disagree to an extent. If a player isn't pulling their weight on the pitch the coach and teammates should tell them. Noting that its not a black and white scenario of just subbing them or dropping them next week. Yes, it's not black and white. Real-life isn't ideal, but the ideal matchday scenario would see every player having a clear idea of their role in the team during various stages of play. This should happen on the training field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 I have very mixed feelings about this. Who are the most "successful" coaches, and do they fit a pattern? Is it the ones who are hopping up and down on the touchline screaming their heads off throughout the match, or the more reflective ones who trust the players to do the job they've been coached to do and make a tweak or two as the match progresses? Also I think it's a shame if the game hasn't got room for talented players who can't last the 90 minutes at full pace. After all, some great athletes are sprinters and some are distance runners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, belaguttman said: Yes, it's not black and white. Real-life isn't ideal, but the ideal matchday scenario would see every player having a clear idea of their role in the team during various stages of play. This should happen on the training field I agree they should have a clear idea of their role. But I considered Wazza yelling at Arzani wasn't about telling him what his role was, rather it was yelling at him for not doing it. As you say Arzani is a luxury player, and being as good (skillwise) as he was for his age, he is probably used to being in youth teams where a certain level of shirking his defensive responsibilities was tolerated. But Wazza isn't someone who puts up with people shirking their responsibilities, even more so defensive responsibilities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 9 hours ago, jw1739 said: I have very mixed feelings about this. Who are the most "successful" coaches, and do they fit a pattern? Is it the ones who are hopping up and down on the touchline screaming their heads off throughout the match, or the more reflective ones who trust the players to do the job they've been coached to do and make a tweak or two as the match progresses? Also I think it's a shame if the game hasn't got room for talented players who can't last the 90 minutes at full pace. After all, some great athletes are sprinters and some are distance runners. Some quiet coaches have assistants that do all the yelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingofhearts Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Samaras 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Iniesta? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Mooy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Baka1 said: Mooy I have a feeling that it could be big. And I don't think Mooy is too big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, fensaddler said: I have a feeling that it could be big. And I don't think Mooy is too big. It hasn’t been going so well in China lately… hmmm  Dont get my hopes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, belaguttman said: Iniesta? Can confirm. He was on the flight home with the Biloela family. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, neio said:  So I guess we deduce that Griff has left us? Either not offered an extension or rejected the offer? Good servant of the club through difficult COVID times - thanks Griff! 1 hour ago, fensaddler said: I have a feeling that it could be big. And I don't think Mooy is too big. Contract extension for Pucci. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, neio said: Â Probably a good outcome for him and clears space in our roster. He leaves with a shed load of respect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayv36 Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Richard Van Der Venne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Just now, rayv36 said: Richard Van Der Venne Dutch Eredivise. Attacking mid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) Looks like a gun. Can't wait to watch PK not play him Edited June 22, 2022 by kingofhearts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeVader Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 Can't see him replacing Pucci tbh. Bad signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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