jw1739 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, n i k o said: The girls win and get their own fascilities. Can we arrange with the sheik that if the men win we get our own stadium to play in? 🙏 No need to contact him - it's no doubt already on his "to do" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Heartspur Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: No need to contact him - it's no doubt already on his "to do" list. Doubt he'd be in any hurry though, especially given the second largest stadium in the city is already called Etihad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 15 hours ago, jw1739 said: Our girls just did the double. Is it coincidence that they will now get their own facilities at Latrobe and that we're aiming high to retain most of this season's squad and also strengthen it? The men are still in the mix for silverware, but by no means certain of doing any better than last year. Is it coincidence that we may be focussing on future seasons rather than this one? Also don't forget that the closure of the transfer window is largely irrelevant. Most transactions into the A-League involve free agents, and they can come at any time. I'm guessing it would just be a potential issue with the vacant visa spot: that if we want to sign another foreign player, the available pool will have dwindled drastically, as players and clubs rushed to put pen to paper before the deadline? Of course, one would hope that the club had a specific foreign player in mind and we needed to get him signed before the deadline, we would have managed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted February 2, 2016 Report Share Posted February 2, 2016 15 hours ago, Pete Heartspur said: Doubt he'd be in any hurry though, especially given the second largest stadium in the city is already called Etihad. Except it's "owned" by the AFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Heartspur Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 2 hours ago, mjake1234 said: Except it's "owned" by the AFL Yes. So not only does he have Etihad branding plastered across an A-League team, he also has branding prominent across the biggest sporting competition in the country........ for now. If that changes in the future then yes, he will probably want us to have our own stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw10 Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pete Heartspur said: Yes. So not only does he have Etihad branding plastered across an A-League team, he also has branding prominent across the biggest sporting competition in the country........ for now. If that changes in the future then yes, he will probably want us to have our own stadium. This.. plus.. if we consistently get 8 k turned up at each match. We probably better off keep using AAMI Park. Having said that, would love to have a stadium of our own and called 'City Ground' Edited February 3, 2016 by raw10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recyclosaurusrex Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'd love a 20k stadium for us. Single tiered the whole way round. With foundations to expand in the long run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I agree with the single tier and stronger foundations, but I reckon 20k is too small...25,000 would be perfect. In fact if we could take Robina stadium from the Gold Coast and plonk it in Melbourne, it'd be perfect! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedissilent Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 23 hours ago, raw10 said: This.. plus.. if we consistently get 8 k turned up at each match. We probably better off keep using AAMI Park. Having said that, would love to have a stadium of our own and called 'City Ground' always thought about this But id love 'Citizens Park' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 57 minutes ago, thedissilent said: always thought about this But id love 'Citizens Park' Aaron Mooy Arena 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 On 2/3/2016 at 4:29 PM, raw10 said: a stadium of our own and called 'City Ground' In Bundoora? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Sheik n bake 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Aloisi Arena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperfuzz Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 MCG (MayCon Ground) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R410 Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 16 hours ago, GreenSeater said: Aaron Mooy Arena CBD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 So overall: Outs: Velaphi, Richardson, Koren, Mauk, Williams, Espindola, Paartalu. Ins: Bouzanis, Caceres, Fitzgerald, Malik, Wilkinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 20 minutes ago, jw1739 said: So overall: Outs: Velaphi, Richardson, Koren, Mauk, Williams, Espindola, Paartalu. Ins: Bouzanis, Caceres, Fitzgerald, Malik, Wilkinson. On paper and past performances a sum net gain. 12 or so games to prove it true or not. Satisfied but not overjoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 If we signed a marquee DM we would be unbeatable IMO. Missing a general in the centre of the park. its still a very impressive squad, should go close this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC22 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Great squad. IF we can get and keep our defense fit and playing together regularly, we can win it for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I still worry about the formation and playing style, Remember we could have easily lost 3-0 against WSW. Our comeback relied on individual brilliance, where WSW exploited our structural and tactical weaknesses far too easily. Time will tell I suppose 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Quote Andrew Durante @A_Dura22 3h3 hours ago Is Melbourne City excluded from the salary cap policy??? They just about signed a new team in January. 31 retweets50 likes Reply Dummy spit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 We might guess that we've freed a good portion of the cap with the releases of (especially) Velaphi, Williams and Paartalu, and hence we can fit in the new signings. We might even be paying Wilkinson outside the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Deeming said: Dummy spit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzema23 Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 4 hours ago, heart_fan10 said: If we signed a marquee DM we would be unbeatable IMO. Missing a general in the centre of the park. its still a very impressive squad, should go close this season Like Engelaar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Espindola joins Hume City Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 We have 8 of the best players in the league (Sorensen, Franjic, Kisnorbo, Wilkinson, Zullo, Mooy, Fornaroli, Novillo) and don't even have an international marquee. Time to win something given most of them might not be here next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperfuzz Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 we'll technically have a nominal marquee though according to the reports (for accounting reasons) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lime Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 On 05/02/2016 at 7:59 PM, mulhollanddrive said: We have 8 of the best players in the league (Sorensen, Franjic, Kisnorbo, Wilkinson, Zullo, Mooy, Fornaroli, Novillo) and don't even have an international marquee. Time to win something given most of them might not be here next season. Not sure Zullo has done enough to be listed in this company, but overall a good point regarding the squad. I was pretty pessimistic after last season and the off season until I saw what the Tuna could do. But, for me the "outs" like Dugandzic and Williams to me have almost been as important as the "ins". We are gradually replacing the softcocks with harder nuts like Franjic. Wilko and Malik are quality pickups if we can keep them. If Melling can improve his passing now that Paartlu has gone we will be hard to stop. But not sure about the 3-5-2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 sign a fucking free agent visa for fucks sake and bring in a guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Bring in a new coach. NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jozzy Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 8 hours ago, Thrillhouse said: sign a fucking free agent visa for fucks sake and bring in a guest Hoping yesterday's "performance" shows we can't just expect anything to happen and whilst our squad may be very good on paper we cannot just expect it to work for us. I understand it's hard to find a marquee and guest in February but with the City Football groups scouting knowledge I've got no doubts we could find two class players who are out of contract. I'm presuming they don't want to sign a player just for the sake of it but every other club has two marquee spots filled (I believe) so for us to not utilise that in a salary capped league is stupidity, especially when we've just spent 400k paying out Koren. Personally I think we need to sign a winger and a defensive midfielder. There's plenty of wingers available there's Oar, Kranjcar or Ronaldinho off the top of my head who could do a job. I'm not as sure on defensive midfielders but I'd have no doubt we'd be able to find someone who could be a good performer at this level. The title is hanging above us and far from a guarantee but it is there for the taking, the fact money shouldn't be an issue gives us no excuse not to go out there and improve our squad. In a capped league it's quite hard to use our finicall advantage quickly. When we're aloud to have two marquees and a guest player out of the squad I'd be quite pissed if we didn't fill those spots. Its really now or never though, leave it much later and the better free agents will be gone and with the finals quickly approaching we want to give players the chance to gain fitness and settle into Melbourne and our squad/tactics before finals do start. Don't let us down CFG! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 I'm glad CFG didn't bring any other players in. If JVS can't make it work with our current squad he doesn't deserve marquee or guest players to cover up his ineptitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriente Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 How this club expects to win anything with only 2 visa outfield players is beyond my comprehension. Unlimited resources and an open international marquee spot but we've let it all go to waste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Williams out Fitgerald in I get, but the rest of it? Pointless chopping and changing of the squad. All we've done is introduce lesser players who aren't used to the side. Ok get rid of that imposter Koren, but how about you replace him. 2 long term injuries and a Getmano clone in the squad and yet no injury replacements. Someone should be accountable for this farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 That's what I alluded to last week. There's been too much change. Too many players brought in/ taken out, too much inconsistency regarding how we play. Then there's been the changing of players due to injury, Hughes in one week and out the next, Kisnorbo injured at the beginning of the game etc. Theres just way too much going on for the squad to ever settle with each other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, Shahanga said: Williams out Fitgerald in I get, but the rest of it? Pointless chopping and changing of the squad. All we've done is introduce lesser players who aren't used to the side. Ok get rid of that imposter Koren, but how about you replace him. 2 long term injuries and a Getmano clone in the squad and yet no injury replacements. Someone should be accountable for this farce. 6 minutes ago, n i k o said: That's what I alluded to last week. There's been too much change. Too many players brought in/ taken out, too much inconsistency regarding how we play. Then there's been the changing of players due to injury, Hughes in one week and out the next, Kisnorbo injured at the beginning of the game etc. Theres just way too much going on for the squad to ever settle with each other. Fair enough comments. I also think we should not necessarily release players in mid-season "so that they can pursue another opportunity." I would have said Bouzanis for Tando was clearly a step backwards and the wrong move for the longer term; I would have expected Tando to be taking over from Sorensen sometime during 2016-17 - now we have to look for someone completely new. Not sure whether Malik for Mauk was the right move at this stage in the season - why trade a young player we've put 4 years into? Fitzgerald for Williams was a good move. Addition of Caceres was a good move. Despite my dislike of Koren, releasing him but not replacing him on the visa player list doesn't make sense to me. Addition of Wilkinson seems a good move but the release of Paartalu seems unwise. I don't understand the releases of Richardson, Symeoy and Espindola. These all look like young players who've fallen out with JvS for some reason - despite in the cases of Symeoy and Espindola seemingly favourites earlier in the season. When I look though the current players on our books I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about the squad as some others - Franjic is questionable IMO, and Hughes should have gone in the January window. We've not bothered to get an injury replacement for Chapman. In midfield both Trifiro and Retre are honest squad players, but not game changers. And up front other than Harry and Tuna we have Kuzi, Gameiro, Brown, Marino and Dekker - no game changers there either. Week after week we have a bench that is markedly inferior to that of our opponents. Overall I'm finding it quite hard to see where these changes have taken us, or are taking us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Fair enough comments. I also think we should not necessarily release players in mid-season "so that they can pursue another opportunity." I would have said Bouzanis for Tando was clearly a step backwards and the wrong move for the longer term; I would have expected Tando to be taking over from Sorensen sometime during 2016-17 - now we have to look for someone completely new. Not sure whether Malik for Mauk was the right move at this stage in the season - why trade a young player we've put 4 years into? Fitzgerald for Williams was a good move. Addition of Caceres was a good move. Despite my dislike of Koren, releasing him but not replacing him on the visa player list doesn't make sense to me. Addition of Wilkinson seems a good move but the release of Paartalu seems unwise. I don't understand the releases of Richardson, Symeoy and Espindola. These all look like young players who've fallen out with JvS for some reason - despite in the cases of Symeoy and Espindola seemingly favourites earlier in the season. When I look though the current players on our books I'm not nearly as enthusiastic about the squad as some others - Franjic is questionable IMO, and Hughes should have gone in the January window. We've not bothered to get an injury replacement for Chapman. In midfield both Trifiro and Retre are honest squad players, but not game changers. And up front other than Harry and Tuna we have Kuzi, Gameiro, Brown, Marino and Dekker - no game changers there either. Week after week we have a bench that is markedly inferior to that of our opponents. Overall I'm finding it quite hard to see where these changes have taken us, or are taking us. I agree we should be holding on to players. At a guess, Tando had an opportunity to go and with Sorenson signed next season as well he probably wouldn't get a look in until 2017/2018. Two years is a long time. By the sounds of it Mauk was planning to move on at the end of the season which allowed us to make the move on Malik. I don't mind this as we need to strengthen our defensive options. Id also say that the biggest reason was because the club knew Paartalu would be going and so Mauk was the trade off to fill this void. Fitzgerald and Caceras are both good moves. Ideally I would have liked Koren to stay and at the least be a bench player. But I've gone over my opinion on what I believe happened too many times. Richardson was a short term deal, whatever that is anyway. Not sure about Symeoy. Espindola by my understanding was an injury replacement for James Brown. Id say the biggest loss out of all this is Paartalu. Yes he had his shortfalls but I also think he was playing some pretty good football over the last month. Edited February 8, 2016 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 I think it was a purely clear the decks kind of thing to make way for next season, with the thinking we have a strong enough squad to go into the finals. JVS will NOT 100% be at the club next season!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 Who would have thought a season and a half in we would be making so many changes and not looking settled at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 1 hour ago, n i k o said: Who would have thought a season and a half in we would be making so many changes and not looking settled at all. Doesnt make alot of sense does it. Whats even more baffling is it was done in Jan and we were 3 points from top spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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