Harrison Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Our 20-man squad next season could look something like this: Goalkeepers: Birighitti, Delianov Defenders: Pierias, Atkinson, Schenkeveld, Delbridge, Good, Portelli, Jamieson Midfielders: Baccus, Brattan, Visa CM, Visa CAM, Genreau, Metcalfe Forwards: Wales, Maclaren, Najjarine, Visa LW, Visa RW My assumptions are: Released: Fornaroli, Vidosic, McGree, Harrison, De Laet, Berenguer Sold: Bouzanis, Griffiths Retire: Galekovic, La Rocca It's hard to say what will happen to Galekovic and Griffiths. I think the three loan players will head back overseas. Of course, all might stay for another season but there will be some turnover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 If Berenguer has got contract he will stay. Brattan's contract ends and he will go away. Galekovic hasn't come to top fitness to be retired. McGree is one of the most talented, why would we release him. Still, he's not contracted. Bart will ask much more money and it's probably time for him to make a change. The rest is very average squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_Attack Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Under no circumstances should we be going in to a new season on the back foot with a visa player who’s not up to it. Goodbye Florin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Harrison said: Our 20-man squad next season could look something like this: Goalkeepers: Birighitti, Delianov Defenders: Pierias, Atkinson, Schenkeveld, Delbridge, Good, Portelli, Jamieson Midfielders: Baccus, Brattan, Visa CM, Visa CAM, Genreau, Metcalfe Forwards: Wales, Maclaren, Najjarine, Visa LW, Visa RW My assumptions are: Released: Fornaroli, Vidosic, McGree, Harrison, De Laet, Berenguer Sold: Bouzanis, Griffiths Retire: Galekovic, La Rocca It's hard to say what will happen to Galekovic and Griffiths. I think the three loan players will head back overseas. Of course, all might stay for another season but there will be some turnover. That team would not get anywhere unless those four visa players are top quality. Then I think you might have difficulty getting it under the cap unless Schenkeveld is a marquee. I'd also try and keep De Laet. If it were me I'd swap McGree for Brattan. Anyway, McGree's future depends on Club Brugge, where his contract runs until 30th June 2021. De Laet's contract at Villa finishes on 30th June 2019, as does Brattan's at Manchester City. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, jw1739 said: That team would not get anywhere unless those four visa players are top quality. Well that's how the A-League works. The foreign players have to be top quality. There's no way around it. Perth, Victory and Sydney all have quality foreign players with one stand-out in the midfield or up front (Castro, Ninkovic and Toivonen). If we kept Shenkeveld (under the cap could be tricky but doable) then I'd load up on midfielders and forwards with the remaining visa places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 I personally reckon there is too much water left to run under the bridge this season before we can even look at bedding down next year's squad. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Latchford Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Imtellingyou said: If Berenguer has got contract he will stay. Brattan's contract ends and he will go away. Galekovic hasn't come to top fitness to be retired. McGree is one of the most talented, why would we release him. Still, he's not contracted. Bart will ask much more money and it's probably time for him to make a change. The rest is very average squad. Because he's on loan and we have no choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Bob Latchford said: Because he's on loan and we have no choice. Unless we negotiated an extension to the loan. I would be working, within reason, to keep a talented young player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Latchford Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 15 hours ago, fensaddler said: Unless we negotiated an extension to the loan. I would be working, within reason, to keep a talented young player. We'd get literally zero return on investment though which seems to be what the club is about. If we don't own him we can't make a profit. He's not exactly winning us games off his own magic either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bob Latchford said: We'd get literally zero return on investment though which seems to be what the club is about. If we don't own him we can't make a profit. He's not exactly winning us games off his own magic either. It's a good point - and with two years to run on his contract at the end of the season, he's likely to command a fee if we wanted to sign him rather than loan him. Like everything, it will be a cost-benefit calculation. I think he's got talent, and I hope we can help him develop it (yet another who has been played out of his natural position this season, so difficult for his natural ability to shine I suspect). It's always going to be a case of what we can get for the money, and to some extent a 'stick or twist' calculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 13 minutes ago, fensaddler said: It's a good point - and with two years to run on his contract at the end of the season, he's likely to command a fee if we wanted to sign him rather than loan him. Like everything, it will be a cost-benefit calculation. I think he's got talent, and I hope we can help him develop it (yet another who has been played out of his natural position this season, so difficult for his natural ability to shine I suspect). It's always going to be a case of what we can get for the money, and to some extent a 'stick or twist' calculation. IIRC the only players we've "sold" since we have been City are Mooy and Arzani, both going to Manchester City. And if the reports are correct, we didn't receive that much for either. My take on it is that CFG hope we can develop someone so that they can go into Manchester City's Shop Window, not our own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 45 minutes ago, Bob Latchford said: We'd get literally zero return on investment though which seems to be what the club is about. If we don't own him we can't make a profit. He's not exactly winning us games off his own magic either. It's a tricky one with McGree. I do think he has played with an injury for most part of the season, which has affected him. So we really haven't been able to see the best of him or get a proper gauge on how good he can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, rass said: It's a tricky one with McGree. I do think he has played with an injury for most part of the season, which has affected him. So we really haven't been able to see the best of him or get a proper gauge on how good he can be. Someone said this above, as did David Davutovic earlier in the week, McGree has been played out of position for most of the season. He’s been used up front, out wide and as a CAM but he is more of a box to box midfielder. He’s done a decent job but you can tell he’s not quite sure of himself either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Harrison said: Someone said this above, as did David Davutovic earlier in the week, McGree has been played out of position for most of the season. He’s been used up front, out wide and as a CAM but he is more of a box to box midfielder. He’s done a decent job but you can tell he’s not quite sure of himself either. trying to mold a player at senior level into something his not is not on. If they want to experiment with him throw him in the yoof league. As you said his not sure of himself and it shows. You would think a coach whos spose to be highly regarded with yoof would know this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 Seems to me there's a serious disconnect between recruitment and what the manager actually wants to get the best out of the squad. Something is still not right in the way the club is managed. Again it come back to just what exactly is the intent of the owners of Melbourne City? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: IIRC the only players we've "sold" since we have been City are Mooy and Arzani, both going to Manchester City. And if the reports are correct, we didn't receive that much for either. My take on it is that CFG hope we can develop someone so that they can go into Manchester City's Shop Window, not our own. I tend to think you are probably looking at that through book figures rather than how the group actually views it internally. The fact that CFG are probably more likely to command a higher fee by selling Manchester player rather than a Melbourne one is one reason to 'sell' the player internally, particularly if they can get a year or two in Euorpe and prove themselves somewhat first, as well as the obvious salary cap factors. Im sure CFG know that Mooy and Arzani and anything they make out of them are Melbourne returns on investment, no matter where the profit lies in the books. The books are a by product of what is most useful and effective to the group at that point in time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Harrison said: Someone said this above, as did David Davutovic earlier in the week, McGree has been played out of position for most of the season. He’s been used up front, out wide and as a CAM but he is more of a box to box midfielder. He’s done a decent job but you can tell he’s not quite sure of himself either. Frenchy is a AM played out wide, McGree is a box to box and played up front, De Laet is a right back played as a striker And someone remind how Joyce is so highly rated ............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 28 minutes ago, AntiScum said: And someone remind how Joyce is so highly rated ............. He spins a nice yarn to Munn & Co 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, haz said: He spins a nice yarn to Munn & Co About right, all his pressers are pre rehearsed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXIOM Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, AntiScum said: Frenchy is a AM played out wide, McGree is a box to box and played up front, De Laet is a right back played as a striker And someone remind how Joyce is so highly rated ............. You forgot Atkinson is a AM playing at RB and wide, Goods at DM, Wales at ST, Bratten RW, Dario wide, Delbo at RB and LB......at one time or another he has played just about everyone out of possy. Oh yeah and Larocca at DM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 I don't think we have enough defenders, surely we could sign a few more centrebacks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, moops said: I don't think we have enough defenders, surely we could sign a few more centrebacks. I can't for the life of me understand with the scouting network they have how you could end up with an extremely unbalanced squad 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 fold city 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bannon said: fold city Why fold the club buddy? Unless you're happy to switch to Victory I'm happy for the club to exist. I just want Wazza out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tony999 said: Why fold the club buddy? Unless you're happy to switch to Victory I'm happy for the club to exist. I just want Wazza out! reinstate heart, fuck city. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 30 minutes ago, Bannon said: reinstate heart, fuck city. Not ganna happen mate. Deal with it. Just get on the #JoyceOut bandwagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 yeah nah, not gonna happen mate, get on the fuck city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 One of the regular talks is what does Wellington Phoenix bring to the A League. Right now what does Melbourne City bring to the A League other than easy points for the other 9 teams? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 1 hour ago, NewConvert said: One of the regular talks is what does Wellington Phoenix bring to the A League. Right now what does Melbourne City bring to the A League other than easy points for the other 9 teams? We bring wazzaball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 #JOYCEOUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 What really shits me is how the players talk about how ambitious this club is. What evidence is there that this is true? We have the resources and capacity to achieve great thing. Why are we so continually poor on making productive choices that serve us well? I reckon we have a sense of entlitlement and an arrogance that comes from being backed by CFG. Even the players are convinced by the prospect because they know what the potential of being backed by CFG means. Then they inevitably end up severely underwhelmed by the reality of the situation, just like the fans. Fuck Joyce. Where is CFGs balls. His appointment has been a failure. We have been poor and even by some miralce we move up the ladder we are undeserving of success this year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Is there anyway we can bring this more in the media, can the Talking City boys ask a sports journo to come on the show? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Is there anyway we can bring this more in the media, can the Talking City boys ask a sports journo to come on the show? Yes this 100x over. More discussion, more articles and more negative press. Pressure needs to mount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, JMSTEP123 said: Yes this 100x over. More discussion, more articles and more negative press. Pressure needs to mount I wouldn’t know where to start. I’m hoping that some Podcast hosts are reading this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeVader Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Drain the swamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, Mr MO said: I wouldn’t know where to start. I’m hoping that some Podcast hosts are reading this. Cannot wait for the rage in this weeks pod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, JMSTEP123 said: Cannot wait for the rage in this weeks pod was there one last week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just now, HughJass said: was there one last week? Yes! From memory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Just subscribe and listen every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 34 minutes ago, JMSTEP123 said: Yes! From memory? Hmm don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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