KSK_47 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Seriously fold the club. Sack everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Perth have upped their game, we look slow, that was a bad goal to concede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cremorne Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Cut open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 What the fuck happened, my paramount shit itself just after Arslan was down. I reboot it and we are behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, neio said: What the fuck happened, my paramount shit itself just after Arslan was down. I reboot it and we are behind Quick counter, Williams pass to Taggart with an open goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, neio said: What the fuck happened, my paramount shit itself just after Arslan was down. I reboot it and we are behind You know that thing that always happens when we play? That happened 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Just pathetic man seriously can we defend anything ffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 god our defense is shocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Almost as good as our corners, have we scored from one this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Here comes Caputo and leckie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 (edited) Arslan has been super poor these last 15minutes. Mazzeo and Galloway also poor final balls. No fire left to get back into this. Edited February 2 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Our defensive structure is absolutely retarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Fuck what a goal. I will cop that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 We are so easy to play against, all you need is a bit of energy and speed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 We sent everyone forward, even Good, it was either going to get us a goal or they would do that. Good to see Jeggo and Leckie, players coming back is good and we need them. Nuno is done though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Torn Asunder Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Arslan got a red card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 6 hours ago, Torn Asunder said: Arslan got a red card. Was that after the final whistle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Well that was a disaster and then to top it off Arslan gets sent off for what seems like ill discipline I never thought I'd say this after the way he started the season, but when is Souprayen back. Him and Good were starting to form a solid partnership and since he has been injured it looks all over the shop at the back 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 7 hours ago, Torn Asunder said: Arslan got a red card. He was being wound up all night by that evil little troll Amini. Who should have been sent off much earlier. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 2 Report Share Posted February 2 Tell me folks, how many more times do we have to listen to Vidmar saying not enough effort from the team, and that we can't win a game of football the way we are playing? Isn't it time to kick some arses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 (edited) 9 hours ago, Torn Asunder said: Arslan got a red card. He had a very poor patch in second half, turned everything over. This would have been pure frustration. Whilst he is quality of course he does occasionally look a little too casual or perhaps even lazy on the ball. Then with the lack of that extra step or litte more effort in the final move/ball it results in a turnover. Edited February 3 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Vidmar's negative attitude in bagging out the team after every game won't work in terms of getting them to improve ... last night's loss was terrible but the players still put in a tough shift ... Perth is a hard place to play and get a result. Seems to me like he's losing the dressing room. Felt for Arslan as well. You could see the red mist descending, especially after the broken nose from that little Ronald McDonald scum bag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 11 hours ago, moops said: We sent everyone forward, even Good, it was either going to get us a goal or they would do that. We kept ending up on the right side with both Mazzeo and Galloway not being able to put a decent ball, most got intercepted at the first man and Perth went off on the counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 30 minutes ago, Mr MO said: We kept ending up on the right side with both Mazzeo and Galloway not being able to put a decent ball, most got intercepted at the first man and Perth went off on the counter. Tilio should be available next game, silver clouds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 I only watched the first half, we didn't play too badly, although, as usual, we wasted too many chances and conceded an unnecessary penalty. It's not surprising that we have the lowest shot conversion rate in the League, and this is what is hurting us. The year that we won the double, our conversion rate was the highest in the League. On 3/2/2024 at 11:34 AM, Torn Asunder said: Vidmar's negative attitude in bagging out the team after every game won't work in terms of getting them to improve ... last night's loss was terrible but the players still put in a tough shift ... Perth is a hard place to play and get a result. Seems to me like he's losing the dressing room. I agree, it isn't helpful to publicly bag the team that you are coaching. That's our job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 On 03/02/2024 at 11:34 AM, Torn Asunder said: Vidmar's negative attitude in bagging out the team after every game won't work in terms of getting them to improve ... last night's loss was terrible but the players still put in a tough shift ... Perth is a hard place to play and get a result. Seems to me like he's losing the dressing room. Felt for Arslan as well. You could see the red mist descending, especially after the broken nose from that little Ronald McDonald scum bag That's a fair point too. But we can't have it both ways. One day we're saying we have a squad that's as good as anyone else in the league, and possibly better, and the next day we're saying that we're pathetic. What we need is consistency, not these "on-off" performances. So what does the coach do in this situation? Rado quit because he felt he couldn't get any more out of the squad, and is Vidmar overall doing any better? We're going to finish this round in 6th position, 8 points off the pace. The season is not irretrievable but...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: That's a fair point too. But we can't have it both ways. One day we're saying we have a squad that's as good as anyone else in the league, and possibly better, and the next day we're saying that we're pathetic. What we need is consistency, not these "on-off" performances. So what does the coach do in this situation? Rado quit because he felt he couldn't get any more out of the squad, and is Vidmar overall doing any better? We're going to finish this round in 6th position, 8 points off the pace. The season is not irretrievable but...? There's no doubt that the team's performance is far lower than the sum of its parts. Publicly bagging [players is not the way to improve it, though. Look at how Ange publicly responds to Spurs' bad games or players' poor performances as an example of how to motivate players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, belaguttman said: There's no doubt that the team's performance is far lower than the sum of its parts. Publicly bagging [players is not the way to improve it, though. Look at how Ange publicly responds to Spurs' bad games or players' poor performances as an example of how to motivate players. Where is he personally bagging players then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Where is he personally bagging players then? I don't think he is in fact naming individual players. He's expressing his frustration with the team just as we are. He's basically saying that we don't play with the right attitude/pride/urgency/ bottle/determination/whatever as a team - and he said that right from when he was appointed. IIRC he named it as his first priority. Around 20 matches later and he's frustrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I don't think he is in fact naming individual players. He's expressing his frustration with the team just as we are. He's basically saying that we don't play with the right attitude/pride/urgency/ bottle/determination/whatever as a team - and he said that right from when he was appointed. IIRC he named it as his first priority. Around 20 matches later and he's frustrated. But he is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 48 minutes ago, Mr MO said: But he is right. Yes, he's right. If the players feel attacked, then they become defensive. Once they are defensive, they aren't open to learning. We don't want them to try harder; we need them to try differently; to do this, they need to be open and curious and work together collectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 The debate is whether the coach publicly bagging players/team is useful/helpful or not. When a coach publicly bags a team, it may make some supporters feel better but the supporters are not on the pitch. On the other hand, the players may not respond the way you would hope that they will. My thoughts are that coaches should avoid publicly bagging the team or individual players. Why not a hard and fast rule? because there have been instances where the bagging has worked. BUT the coaches that did it, knew how to do it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 44 minutes ago, NewConvert said: The debate is whether the coach publicly bagging players/team is useful/helpful or not. When a coach publicly bags a team, it may make some supporters feel better but the supporters are not on the pitch. On the other hand, the players may not respond the way you would hope that they will. My thoughts are that coaches should avoid publicly bagging the team or individual players. Why not a hard and fast rule? because there have been instances where the bagging has worked. BUT the coaches that did it, knew how to do it. But he’s is not doing that, bagging that is. He’s just being honest about why we are losing these games and I rather have that. But perhaps we like to hear “unlucky” or “good effort and try harder next week”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 2 hours ago, Mr MO said: But he’s is not doing that, bagging that is. He’s just being honest about why we are losing these games and I rather have that. But perhaps we like to hear “unlucky” or “good effort and try harder next week”. Re-watched the presser and you are right. He continually said "we". He also mentioned that what was on the training pitch was not shown on the playing pitch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) 37 minutes ago, NewConvert said: Re-watched the presser and you are right. He continually said "we". He also mentioned that what was on the training pitch was not shown on the playing pitch. So the question remains "why?" It's not as if we have an inexperienced squad. According to Vidmar the players even had a meeting about it, at which he was not present. Edited February 4 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) 5 hours ago, jw1739 said: So the question remains "why?" It's not as if we have an inexperienced squad. According to Vidmar the players even had a meeting about it, at which he was not present. Because the core of our playing group is past their peak. Some players and even some of our fans live in the past. The league has moved on, they know how we play. One could argue that the league is also stronger and has more pace now than during our peak years. Measuring yourself during training against your own team mates doesn’t really tell you where you stand. Edited February 4 by Mr MO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Because the core of our playing group is past their peak. Some players and even some of our fans live in the past. The league has moved on, they know how we play. One could argue that the league is also stronger and has more pace now then during pur peak years. Possession-based football is hard; it's high risk, high reward. It requires teamwork, speed and endurance, a good understanding of when to team press and accurate passing and movement off the ball; all qualities our team lacks this year. Edited February 4 by belaguttman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 Has there been anything official from the club on the red card? I just saw them post Arslan's goal on their IG ...funny, given our star player is out for next week. I bet most supporters are unaware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 56 minutes ago, Torn Asunder said: Has there been anything official from the club on the red card? I just saw them post Arslan's goal on their IG ...funny, given our star player is out for next week. I bet most supporters are unaware My guess is being a straight red we can't say a hell of alot until it goes through the discipline board. We probably just don't want to go off half cocked without all the info....like someone else in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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