raw10 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Was going to say that perhaps this signing is more to add some depth in our squad seeing he is quite a versatile player. Nothing to write home about and potential seat warmer and someone to bring on in case of injuries etc. At least this time round we are didn't swap him for another player as I am still spewing becuase we gave up Stefan Mauk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 35 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I'm surprised at you Murf, you're usually so positive. He looks like a serviceable signing to me - has missed only 2-4 matches per season going back to 2009/10. Reasonably versatile, not a visa player, and probably doesn't command a big wage. Not likely to be called up for any international duties either so will be available all the time. One of our biggest weaknesses to me is that we rarely have a bench that looks like it can add value in the last 30 minutes of a match (in fact, quite the opposite), but here's a defender we could bring on and actually add value, and can start as required. It is being assumed that he'll be a bench/depth player for us next season. If Manny Muscat does go from the Wellington Phoenix starting lineup to our bench, then he's a good signing. But I'm a bit weary of being presumptuous. Only Chapman, Malik and Clisby are signed for next season. Chapman will probably start, Malik will probably play in midfield and Clisby will probably not start. Also, Aaron Hughes will leave the club, and Kisnorbo and Zullo are out of contract at the end of the season and it's uncertain whether both will be around next season. So until I see some quality defensive signings, I'm weary that Muscat will start more often than not. And while I do think he's a good and underrated A-League defender, I'm doubtful that we can build a top A-League defence around him that can challenge for silverware. If we re-sign Wilkinson for next season, as well as Zullo (or another quality LB like, say, Behich), then I'll change my tune. But until then I won't be confident that the defence will have a much improved future, as there's still a lot of uncertainty surrounding next season's defence (with Wilkinson, Hughes, Kisnorbo and Zullo coming out of contract) to be confident in next season's defence ATM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 This will all make sense if we do what we should have done during last preseason and scout and absolute animal visa central defender. Someone that will eat guys like Berisha for breakfast and has greater capability with the ball at his feet than Paddy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Bizarre signing. Announced now, I doubt he's on as low wages as everyone is assuming. Hope he proves me wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 He's actually not a bad player in fairness. Is slightly less shit then clisby IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 7 hours ago, hakz7 said: Why would Pellegrini want Manny Muscat? FFS why would you want Pellegrini? He's doing his very best to fuck us up this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, silva10 said: FFS why would you want Pellegrini? He's doing his very best to fuck us up this season! We can swap if you would prefer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Just now, KSK_47 said: We can swap if you would prefer Trust me you would be still saying the same things as you are now. He just has no tactical nous and that is why we can't string 2 wins together at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 56 minutes ago, silva10 said: Trust me you would be still saying the same things as you are now. He just has no tactical nous and that is why we can't string 2 wins together at the moment. To be fair, if my boss told me I was getting the sack at the end of the year I wouldn't exactly work my hardest... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Probably wrong but I have a sneaky suspicion that this signing may signal the end of Paddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Got to admit I had a brief shock when I read the WA Today headline "Muscat in shock switch to Melbourne City". Still don't know enough about A-League players to know whether I like this move or not so I'll reserve my opinion and listen to you guys instead. That said, the sources I've read mostly seemed to keep referring back to his discipline record. Should we be worried? 8 hours ago, silva10 said: Trust me you would be still saying the same things as you are now. He just has no tactical nous and that is why we can't string 2 wins together at the moment. Eh, his subs have been confusing and often not thought out, but the reason this season is going down the pan is because the players are either day dreaming of their future under Pep or know they have no future under him and are already looking at moves away. We had to go for Pep when he became available or we would have lost him, but it's the board and the players at fault mostly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 16 hours ago, japiedog said: signed to appeal to the Maltese Community to come on board.... oh shit we did that with Mifsud , look what happened there I think a good solid signing We will swap next season then? 8 hours ago, silva10 said: Trust me you would be still saying the same things as you are now. He just has no tactical nous and that is why we can't string 2 wins together at the moment. We'll swap next season then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Another Maltese international.... Lets hope this one doesnt give me the grief that the other one did. Still burns me when i hear Mifsud's name 5 times a week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 8 hours ago, n i k o said: Probably wrong but I have a sneaky suspicion that this signing may signal the end of Paddy. I think it's reasonable to assume that the gaffer tape that's been holding Paddy together is showing signs of extreme wear. For all his faults he still has been a top servant for our club. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, silva10 said: FFS why would you want Pellegrini? He's doing his very best to fuck us up this season! Well, he's actually won trophies as a manager (even in South America which JvS couldn't even get close to doing in Mexico) while JVS hasn't finished above 6th in the A-League and doesn't even have a section for honours as "Manager" on wikipedia. Edited March 3, 2016 by hakz7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 21 hours ago, bt50 said: Good signing if we didn't pay too much for him doesnt need the money what so ever but would command a decent wage. he wanted to come back 2 years ago and we spoke to him but it feel through for what ever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 1 hour ago, hakz7 said: Well, he's actually won trophies as a manager (even in South America which JvS couldn't even get close to doing in Mexico) while JVS hasn't finished above 6th in the A-League and doesn't even have a section for honours as "Manager" on wikipedia. Pellegrini got Malaga to the Champions League semi-finals. He recruited well and was tactically good. He's coached Real Madrid and did as well or badly as any other coach handed that poisoned chalice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, belaguttman said: Pellegrini got Malaga to the Champions League semi-finals. He recruited well and was tactically good. He's coached Real Madrid and did as well or badly as any other coach handed that poisoned chalice. Pellegrini is a great manager. Don't judge him on man city. Although I think maybe the game has passed by him a little bit ( like Wenger and Van Gaal) depending on wage, I'm happy with this signing. I like old school centre backs that tackle hard and kick it into row z if the team is under pressure. I'm quite sick of seeing us get stuck in possession playing it out from the back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Signing Muscat I wonder if that could mean the end of Zullo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 43 minutes ago, belaguttman said: Pellegrini got Malaga to the Champions League semi-finals. He recruited well and was tactically good. He's coached Real Madrid and did as well or badly as any other coach handed that poisoned chalice. 52.1% win record over 587 matches as a manager isn't bad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 5 minutes ago, jw1739 said: 52.1% win record over 587 matches as a manager isn't bad... At the top top of world soccer. He just needs to take a haircut (pun intended) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 It's all relative though isn't it? Club environment, level of recruitment, money, club ambition etc. all play a part in the success of a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 16 minutes ago, n i k o said: It's all relative though isn't it? Club environment, level of recruitment, money, club ambition etc. all play a part in the success of a coach. True. Ranieri at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 2 hours ago, n i k o said: It's all relative though isn't it? Club environment, level of recruitment, money, club ambition etc. all play a part in the success of a coach. I'd have said "conditional", but yes, it is. But does a manager just accept the conditions that he finds himself in, or does he go out there and contribute to the creation of the conditions required for success? IMO a track record of 52% wins says the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 On 03/03/2016 at 2:38 PM, hakz7 said: This is such an usual signing. Forget about his second name but... Why?! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 On 03/03/2016 at 8:29 PM, Murfy1 said: It is being assumed that he'll be a bench/depth player for us next season. If Manny Muscat does go from the Wellington Phoenix starting lineup to our bench, then he's a good signing. But I'm a bit weary of being presumptuous. Only Chapman, Malik and Clisby are signed for next season. Chapman will probably start, Malik will probably play in midfield and Clisby will probably not start. Also, Aaron Hughes will leave the club, and Kisnorbo and Zullo are out of contract at the end of the season and it's uncertain whether both will be around next season. So until I see some quality defensive signings, I'm weary that Muscat will start more often than not. And while I do think he's a good and underrated A-League defender, I'm doubtful that we can build a top A-League defence around him that can challenge for silverware. If we re-sign Wilkinson for next season, as well as Zullo (or another quality LB like, say, Behich), then I'll change my tune. But until then I won't be confident that the defence will have a much improved future, as there's still a lot of uncertainty surrounding next season's defence (with Wilkinson, Hughes, Kisnorbo and Zullo coming out of contract) to be confident in next season's defence ATM. I'm with you, Murf. He's a solid player, not a superstar, so whether he is a good signing or not depends almost entirely on what the squad around him looks like. He's a good signing in that he's tough and quite versatile. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I would also add that being signed early he can have a full pre-season with the club. It irks me no end to see last minute arrivals. The earlier we get to a full list the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aardvark Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I'm pretty pleased with this signing. He has all the benefits of Safuwan, in that he is competent, versatile and cheap, except unlike Safuwan he doesn't occupy a valuable VISA spot meaning we can use it elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I would actually prefer for CFG to begin looking at bringing an AFC visa player from next season. I know that the FFA has postponed the requirements of a 3+1 visa players till after the 2017/18 season but I think that it would give the club a marketing edge. Mind you, the player must be quality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 30 minutes ago, NewConvert said: I would actually prefer for CFG to begin looking at bringing an AFC visa player from next season. I know that the FFA has postponed the requirements of a 3+1 visa players till after the 2017/18 season but I think that it would give the club a marketing edge. Mind you, the player must be quality. Saf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Saf. Pls 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 51 minutes ago, NewConvert said: I would actually prefer for CFG to begin looking at bringing an AFC visa player from next season. I know that the FFA has postponed the requirements of a 3+1 visa players till after the 2017/18 season but I think that it would give the club a marketing edge. Mind you, the player must be quality. Luring a big Asian name is going to be hard though considering how financially competitive the Asian football region is, especially of late. Honda would be the dream but I wouldn't mind trying to get someone like Akhmedov from Uzbekistan (box to box midfielder who plays in Russia) or maybe even Hasebe from Japan given he's aging a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 TBH the AFC visa player does not have to be a marquee kind of player. Just an undiscovered player such as Safuwan, or from Uzbekistan or Japan or SK or even China. Of course if the club want to fork out money for Honda or someone of that calibre I will be happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw10 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 saw the match between the nix and the reds, god help us if this guy becomes a regular in our squad.. I am not sure what CFG is thinking.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Fuck knows what goes through didulicas head at the best of times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Meh Now, watch him go from ordinary to underwelming then to just piss poor under our super coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 9 hours ago, raw10 said: saw the match between the nix and the reds, god help us if this guy becomes a regular in our squad.. I am not sure what CFG is thinking.. If this guy has been signed as a squaddie why do it now? Plenty of time for that when the rest of the side has been put together. If he is on low wages why did he accept now? Surely he'd see if he could get a better deal, or even a real job? I concerned that we see him as a key part of the squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 Move over Jack Clisby, it would seem next season's scapegoat has already been cemented. This would have to be some kind of record too, seeing as it's about 6 months before he'll actually play a competitive game for us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Shahanga said: If this guy has been signed as a squaddie why do it now? Plenty of time for that when the rest of the side has been put together. If he is on low wages why did he accept now? Surely he'd see if he could get a better deal, or even a real job? I concerned that we see him as a key part of the squad. I think it was because he already announced that he wanted to move back home to Melbourne so City must've acted quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 7, 2016 Report Share Posted March 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Embee said: Move over Jack Clisby, it would seem next season's scapegoat has already been cemented. This would have to be some kind of record too, seeing as it's about 6 months before he'll actually play a competitive game for us We signed and announced Andrew Redmayne at round about the same stage of the season before his actual contract commenced. And Aaron Mooy had some sort of conditional agreement with us even earlier - well before Aloisi left as coach. I see Muscat as a sound squad player - and certainly a better deal than Aaron Hughes. In terms of "early signings" we've never really had a good start to a season, and if we can get a decent squad together well before the season starts maybe we can get off to a flyer for once. I hope we've already got plenty of contacts going in terms of players for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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