rass Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Afif Adam said: Hard pill to swallow, Socceroos out due to a brain fade I think Maclaren might be coming home early boys!! Yep, expect this announcement in the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 In the team for Sydney, or a home debut vs Adelaide?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, fensaddler said: In the team for Sydney, or a home debut vs Adelaide?? They must be leaving in the next 24 hours, so he might be flying to Scotland first and then to Melbourne. Hopefully the paperwork has been completed and lodged so perhaps later in the week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Am I alone in thinking that we could have set our sights higher than Maclaren as a marquee for next season and perhaps beyond? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Am I alone in thinking that we could have set our sights higher than Maclaren as a marquee for next season and perhaps beyond? But we're broke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Am I alone in thinking that we could have set our sights higher than Maclaren as a marquee for next season and perhaps beyond? No, I think that it's an underwhelming signing, especially as a marquee (next season) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, belaguttman said: No, I think that it's an underwhelming signing, especially as a marquee (next season) I think you need to look at this relative to our league and not based on how he has fared playing for Australia recently, which I imagine is what most people are doing now. Fact is he is an Australian proven, regular goal scorer in the HAL, who has also scored regularly in Europe. This is why he would be considered marquee status. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Am I alone in thinking that we could have set our sights higher than Maclaren as a marquee for next season and perhaps beyond? two press conferences ago wazza stated that he is looking for an aussie player, imo Maclaren is as good as it gets when compared to other Aus strikers who do you reckon would be a better pick ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Afif Adam said: two press conferences ago wazza stated that he is looking for an aussie player, imo Maclaren is as good as it gets when compared to other Aus strikers who do you reckon would be a better pick ? IMO we're setting our sights far too low if all we're looking at for marquees are Australian players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, jw1739 said: IMO we're setting our sights far too low if all we're looking at for marquees are Australian players. fair point, wonder if we're the only Aleague club to have an Australian marquee player if the deal goes through , but as long as he can bang them in ...I'm all for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 In Australia, CFG is all about Aussie players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing_Moy Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 If JMAC is marquee next season can we sign 2 visa players under the cap that are quality ? I think we can get 2 starting 11 players for 300k a season. Bruno started on that same with Fernando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Afif Adam said: fair point, wonder if we're the only Aleague club to have an Australian marquee player if the deal goes through , but as long as he can bang them in ...I'm all for it Troisi is a marquee player 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 David Williams was also a marquee. If we define a marquee as a player whose salary is not included in the cap then there is no reason or expectation as to why McClaren could not be a marquee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 I don't have anything against us signing Maclaren - just questioning why the club seems to think he's marquee status. I'm just bewildered as to where this club is going I suppose. We suspend Fornaroli, get rid of Caceres and O'Halloran, and latterly Malik, and seem to be making a supreme effort to sign as a marquee a bloke who, in effect, can't get a game for a Bundesliga 2 club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I don't have anything against us signing Maclaren - just questioning why the club seems to think he's marquee status. I'm just bewildered as to where this club is going I suppose. We suspend Fornaroli, get rid of Caceres and O'Halloran, and latterly Malik, and seem to be making a supreme effort to sign as a marquee a bloke who, in effect, can't get a game for a Bundesliga 2 club. I totally agree. The only counter would be if you took away Fornarolis A League record he would been an even worse selection. But in the A League context 50 goals from 90 games (I think) is Marquee level. Whatever way you look at it we are never going to get another Bruno especially in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Yea we need a striker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 32 minutes ago, haz said: Yea we need a striker soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Might have an issue as looks like Neil Lennon will be sacked as been "suspended" https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47013499?ns_linkname=sport&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) Will one come for less than a 2 1/2 year contract. If they get a long contract let's hope our new manger likes him and fits into his system Edited January 26, 2019 by Inchcolm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Hibs manager Lennon suspended for disagreeing with transfer policy. Could it be he wanted to keep Maclaren and he is on his way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Sydney about to sign some Iranian dude, Simon Hill said his name but it was 200 letters long and I dont know how to spell it to Google it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, neio said: Sydney about to sign some Iranian dude, Simon Hill said his name but it was 200 letters long and I dont know how to spell it to Google it I was bored..... think its this guy Reza Ghoochannejhad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, haz said: Yea we need a striker We do and a decent winger as well. Mclaren will do but it’s a little embarrassing that we just accept that he would be a marquee for 2.5 years - surely we can do better. Second tier Europe clubs aren’t impressed with him hence he can come back. Toivonen, Le Fondre those are real marquee players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr MO said: We do and a decent winger as well. Mclaren will do but it’s a little embarrassing that we just accept that he would be a marquee for 2.5 years - surely we can do better. Second tier Europe clubs aren’t impressed with him hence he can come back. Toivonen, Le Fondre those are real marquee players. Toivonen is inside MV cap I am excited of tbe prospect of maclaren but need to be convinced he is marquee standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 15 minutes ago, Mr MO said: We do and a decent winger as well. Mclaren will do but it’s a little embarrassing that we just accept that he would be a marquee for 2.5 years - surely we can do better. Second tier Europe clubs aren’t impressed with him hence he can come back. Toivonen, Le Fondre those are real marquee players. Well just because he’s a marquee this year doesn’t mean he definitely will be next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shahanga said: Well just because he’s a marquee this year doesn’t mean he definitely will be next year. Can we do that sign him on a 2-5 year contract and review his marquee status at the end of each season. I cannot he him being stupid enough not to have his contract state that he will a marque player for the duration of his stay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Atkinson out next game, Birighitti in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Just now, Inchcolm said: Can we do that sign him on a 2-5 year contract and review his marquee status at the end of each season. I cannot he him being stupid enough not to have his contract state that he will a marque player for the duration of his stay I doubt the contract will include a status. It will include a salary. The club must then manage their squad to get under the cap and that has the provision for 2 marquees, so he might need to be marquee for this season but next season might fit under the cap. That is if he’s not on huge money. If the salary is too high it will just never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Davutovic reported that he was inside the cap for the remainder of this season then a marquee next season. I don’t think he stated whether Maclaren would be a marquee in 2020/2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Marquees have to be approved by FFA. The meaning of a marquee may have been devalued in recent seasons, but I don't think that we should assume that we can just move players inside and outside the cap as we see fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 42 minutes ago, neio said: Toivonen is inside MV cap I am excited of tbe prospect of maclaren but need to be convinced he is marquee standard So are Troisi and Honda their marquees then? Regardless Toivonen would be marquee standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Marquees have to be approved by FFA. The meaning of a marquee may have been devalued in recent seasons, but I don't think that we should assume that we can just move players inside and outside the cap as we see fit. Maclaren would fit what they call a marquee player, current socceroo and former golden Boot winner In the past they have approved players like Budzinski, Thwaite, Williams and this season Diawara 3 minutes ago, Mr MO said: So are Troisi and Honda their marquees then? Regardless Toivonen would be marquee standard. Yeah they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Kind of illustrates the point I'm making that the scorers in the Victory/Sydney match so far are Toivonen, Troisi and Ninkovic, and then you look at the other forwards those two clubs have...and then you look at what City have and are thinking about. Absolutely no comparison. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 44 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Kind of illustrates the point I'm making that the scorers in the Victory/Sydney match so far are Toivonen, Troisi and Ninkovic, and then you look at the other forwards those two clubs have...and then you look at what City have and are thinking about. Absolutely no comparison. And Honda in that mix. Feeling Victory will win the league again. Fuck me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 8 hours ago, rass said: I think you need to look at this relative to our league and not based on how he has fared playing for Australia recently, which I imagine is what most people are doing now. Fact is he is an Australian proven, regular goal scorer in the HAL, who has also scored regularly in Europe. This is why he would be considered marquee status. *Regularly in Scotland Let's not confuse the two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, Chris p said: *Regularly in Scotland Let's not confuse the two Which is a better quality than the A league. I do believe SPFL has more Australian internationalist in it than any other Country. Therefore taking a step down he should do ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Other than Celtic I don't really believe it is. That particular stat really bares no relevance on anything, it's purely circumstantial that 3 Australian nt players happen to be playing in that particular League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, Chris p said: Other than Celtic I don't really believe it is. That particular stat really bares no relevance on anything, it's purely circumstantial that 3 Australian nt players happen to be playing in that particular League 1 hour ago, Chris p said: Are you say that Rangers, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, Hearts, Hibs or St Johnstone would not win the A league. If you are we will agree to disagree. (Celtic only have 2 not 3 it is Hibs that have 3 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 Where do you get this "scored regularly in the SPL" from? From what I can see he's scored one goal in the SPL this season, and that was back in August. And played 90 minutes just once. Not a worthy marquee IMO. Our club needs to show some ambition. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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