jw1739 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I've taken an extract from an item on the City web-site, a report of statements van 't Schip made before the WSW match. Here they are. There were five new faces in the Wanderers side that lost 2-1 against City at AAMI Park and while there will be more new faces in the Wanderers’ starting eleven on Wednesday, van’t Schip believes the Parramatta-based club will be more settled on Wednesday night, despite its winless run. “They are going to be different because of course when we played them, in that team they had five players actually playing for the first time together,” van’t Schip said. “Tonight whatever team they are going to put on the pitch, it will be a team that is used [to playing with each other]. The new Japanese players [Yusuke Tanaka and Yohiro Takahagi] have integrated well. "Takahagi, he is showing more and more that he is a player who is giving structure and pace and quality to the team, while Tanaka is doing well. "They also have Spiranovic back after the Asian Cup and with [Kerem] Bulut up front adding extra next to [Tomi] Juric. "I know they have a tough program [fixture schedule with the Asian Champions League], but it’s a team that looks a lot stronger than when we played them in February.” Read more at http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/jvs-wanderers-are-growing-stronger/dr5f000fupfq16gai5dtyd8yy#1VZR4hW14LkCSCkz.99 I really believe that this lies at the heart of our problem. This is our coach, talking up the opposition, and putting in our players' minds the thought that the task ahead may be too much for them. We will never win while our coach puts out this sort of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnibari Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Commentators said during the match they'd spoken to J.vS during the delay and he said we were losing due to lack of mental fortitude, and then they said something along the lines of it's his job to fix it so why hasn't he yet? Same question we've been asking for months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) I don't claim to know all that much about the tactics of football or how to motivate a team, but clearly JVS has almost as little idea. Just seems like he's going through the motions. The sooner the sheikhs mates boot him out the door the better. Edited March 11, 2015 by StringerBell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 With the shit this bloke puts out to the public, it's no wonder every team goes into a game against with the mindset that they can score at any time, especially late in a match to either save or steal the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I've taken an extract from an item on the City web-site, a report of statements van 't Schip made before the WSW match. Here they are. There were five new faces in the Wanderers side that lost 2-1 against City at AAMI Park and while there will be more new faces in the Wanderers’ starting eleven on Wednesday, van’t Schip believes the Parramatta-based club will be more settled on Wednesday night, despite its winless run. “They are going to be different because of course when we played them, in that team they had five players actually playing for the first time together,” van’t Schip said. “Tonight whatever team they are going to put on the pitch, it will be a team that is used [to playing with each other]. The new Japanese players [Yusuke Tanaka and Yohiro Takahagi] have integrated well. "Takahagi, he is showing more and more that he is a player who is giving structure and pace and quality to the team, while Tanaka is doing well. "They also have Spiranovic back after the Asian Cup and with [Kerem] Bulut up front adding extra next to [Tomi] Juric. "I know they have a tough program [fixture schedule with the Asian Champions League], but it’s a team that looks a lot stronger than when we played them in February.” Read more at http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/jvs-wanderers-are-growing-stronger/dr5f000fupfq16gai5dtyd8yy#1VZR4hW14LkCSCkz.99 I really believe that this lies at the heart of our problem. This is our coach, talking up the opposition, and putting in our players' minds the thought that the task ahead may be too much for them. We will never win while our coach puts out this sort of stuff. You will find that in any sport the opposing teams will always praise each other and that there are no "easy games". You can imagine what the FFA will do if a coach says that the opposition are a rubble. Even during the AFL Melbourne Demons darkest hour you never heard an opposition coach talk down the Dees. There was a Carlton player that said that the dees were playing "bruise free footy" and then went on to lose the match. So I don't count this statement against JVS. If the players are this brittle then they should all just look for alternative careers (and I am sure that a few will). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Well, I'm sorry, but I think it shows his state of mind. And that's the state of mind of a loser, and that's precisely what he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 It's normal to say that the opposition will be a challenge, but not to list all the reasons that you expect to lose. Most managers will say something along the lines of "they are a good side and this game will be a challenge for us" not talk about all the reasons that they are good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 10 am has passed next week ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 10 am has passed next week ? Delayed due to lightning and thunderstorms. Thursday 10am next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Unbelievable how he still has a job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 The bloke's arrogance and sheer confidence in his own ability despite whatever is going on around him reminds me of a late Kevin Rudd. Also he can't even be bothered wearing his tie to games anymore... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCFCFan10 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Cosign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHTIDALIVE Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Just sack the prick already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victards Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 how is this cock muncher still employed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hopefully there is at least a little advanced warning when he does get the arse. I want to be there to give him the sarcastic slow clap as he carries his belongings out the door. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 The club might want to fast forward plans to get this monkey out of the club before they turn up to the next home game and play in a near empty stadium. SHOW SOME AMBITION YOU SPINELESS PRICKS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCFCFan10 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Give him to ISIS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Cue the butthurt from all the JVS haters Looks like we gotta put up with 3 more seasons of beautiful clean football and great results Forza football purism Well the Prophet was right about the Butthurt part... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) I'm all for sacking JVS but this thread is going over the top. It is a public forum and personal insults/stupid suggestions are unwarranted. Edited March 12, 2015 by Harrison 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 For the first time in a long time I'm out. No turning up this week. Not until the fuckers fix this club. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Yes, our past two results have been shockers. Yes we've underperformed all season. Yes, van 't Schip is a poor coach. Yes, I want a different coach. But we're still seventh on the table after all that, with seven matches still to play. And IMO we all know that CFG won't remove him until either the end of the season or just before. It's everyone's personal choice. My choice is to stick around. If for no reason other than I'm certain that CFG won't allow Melbourne City to damage their "brand" in the longer term. And, as Nick Hornby put it in Fever Pitch: “I fell in love with football as I was later to fall in love with women: suddenly, inexplicably, uncritically, giving no thought to the pain or disruption it would bring with it.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'm all for sacking JVS but this thread is going over the top. It is a public forum and personal insults/stupid suggestions are unwarranted. You do realize this is a Soccer Forum largely occupied by bored Students and Office Workers and not the bloody New Yorker. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityamatic Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Happy(!) for him see out the year given its gone to sh*t anyway, but if he is still here at the start of next season will not be impressed. I have faith that CFG will give him his marching orders after this campaign is finally flushed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'm all for sacking JVS but this thread is going over the top. It is a public forum and personal insults/stupid suggestions are unwarranted. You do realize this is a Soccer Forum largely occupied by bored Students and Office Workers and not the bloody New Yorker. Bored office worker here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Happy(!) for him see out the year given its gone to sh*t anyway, but if he is still here at the start of next season will not be impressed. I have faith that CFG will give him his marching orders after this campaign is finally flushed I have conceded the Season is over but I still don't see why we should keep around because of this fact... We are going to be paying him out for an extra Two Years anyway (The money is not an issue anyway) so we may as well sack him and now and get a Caretaker into have a go at look at the list from another perspective. I don't mind if the Caretaker is already at the club like JP (Who does have some senior experience from back in Greece), an Australian from elsewhere or even someone working elsewhere in the world in the CFG network... this third one is probably the best option. Ever since we lost our first home game to Newy the JVS fans and the "Glass Half Full Brigade" likewise on here have been predicting the "Great Cull" that will come at the end of this Season and save us all... well surely a fresh pair of eyes is going to of more benefit to assist in such a process than JVS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 If only we never went on that 5-6 game winning streak last season. Only reason why he was even considered for an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'm all for sacking JVS but this thread is going over the top. It is a public forum and personal insults/stupid suggestions are unwarranted. You do realize this is a Soccer Forum largely occupied by bored Students and Office Workers and not the bloody New Yorker. Guilty of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 If only we never went on that 5-6 game winning streak last season. Only reason why he was even considered for an extension. True. But at least this way the JVS cheer squad can't say he didn't have the time or players he needed to prove himself. We now have indisputable evidence he is rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 We need to get rid of everyone responsible for this club's culture of mediocrity. Is it some players? Is it the Manager? Is it some other coaching staff? Is it some of the administrators? Maybe a loss on Saturday night to a Newcastle side that is now showing the desperation and hunger that we lack will do the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALZALOL Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/city-lose-their-heads-under-pressure-says-vant-schip#oGa5tJs2eLiKlVJM.99 City 'lose their heads' under pressure, says Van't Schip Melbourne City coach John van ‘t Schip felt the games two big decisions went against his side as they slumped to a costly loss to Western Sydney Wanderers FC on Wednesday night. City looked on track to move back into the top six with a valuable win at Pirtek Stadium as they led the Wanderers 2-1 with less than 12 minutes left to play. But defender Connor Chapman was involved in two controversial incidents which swung the result, first adjudged to have fouled Tomi Juric in the box, before being sent off for man-handling referee Strebre Delovski soon after. The Wanderers took advantage to snatch all three points through Nikita Rukavytsya’s volley in stoppage time. “For me the penalty was soft,” van ‘t Schip said. “But he (Delovski) gave it, he was on top of it so he probably saw something that for him was clearly a penalty. “After that the red card…I don’t know. I asked Connor and he said there might have been contact. “After that (down to 10-men) it’s difficult.” The defeat could be a crushing blow to City’s finals hopes, still one point behind sixth-placed Brisbane Roar, who now have two games in hand on them. Of more concern for van ‘t Schip is his side’s inability to finish teams off when in control and dominating matches. It cost them in the weekend’s loss to Central Coast Mariners and again against the Wanderers. “It concerns us because a game of football is not only one half,” the City boss said. “We went up in the second half so it’s not that we’re not in the game, we were creating and were dangerous still. “In the end it’s just not good enough. We lose our head in some situations, the pressure knowing that you have to win this game and it ended up on the wrong side.” One positive for the visitors was the performance of midfielder Aaron Mooy, who capped his call-up for the Socceroos on Wednesday with a superb display. Mooy, who was booed at times by his former fans, set up City’s first goal before scoring the second himself with a curling free-kick. City head back home for a must-win clash with struggling Newcastle Jets on Saturday night. Edited March 12, 2015 by CALZALOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Isn't it his job to manage this? If not, what are we paying him for? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Isn't it his job to manage this? If not, what are we paying him for?Exactly. It's unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Whats his overall win percentage now? below 30%? Imagine if you only did your job only 30% of the time, you'd be sacked within the first week! Edited March 12, 2015 by kingofhearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 31.94% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhitePride Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 And what was Aloisi's winning percentage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 And what was Aloisi's winning percentage? 20.51 according to Wiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 And what was Aloisi's winning percentage? I know we aren't huge fans of JVS around these parts but fuck me he's not sunk that low yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Agree. I think the moment is getting the better of people though, and their emotions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Just because he is better than JA doesn't mean he isn't terrible. The longer he is at the club the more I fucking hate the sound of that cunts name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Just because he is better than JA doesn't mean he isn't terrible. The longer he is at the club the more I fucking hate the sound of that cunts name He's just not 'that' terrible is the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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