playmaker Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, n i k o said: Best case: based on a projection of future events that assumes only the best possible circumstances Realistic: having/showing a sensible and practical idea of what can be achieved or expected. I will point out that perhaps you overlooked the fact that they are not mutually exclusive. Or perhaps you did subconsciously but are not in harmony with your inner self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thisphantomfortress Posted November 7, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 This thread reminds me why I left the forum for a year 8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, playmaker said: I will point out that perhaps you overlooked the fact that they are not mutually exclusive. Or perhaps you did subconsciously but are not in harmony with your inner self. Sensible and practical. You lack both qualities. Over and out. Edited November 7, 2019 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, n i k o said: Over and out. Best post you have made all day. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted November 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, thisphantomfortress said: This thread reminds me why I left the forum for a year Sorry you feel this way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 16 hours ago, jw1739 said: IMO it's realistic to suggest that a David Villa type marquee such as Zlatan would push our home attendances up to the 15,000 mark, and not beyond that at the present time except for home derbies. I’d expect a 25k crowd for the first match with Zlatan. Promotion would be important. I can think of a fair few people who’d go to see him that aren’t regular attendees. Even just the chance to see him play live once would bring thousands more through the gates. Beyond that it would probably drop off. He’s a world-class player and has a global following. You’d get a lot of interest. But it just won’t happen unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 15 hours ago, thisphantomfortress said: This thread reminds me why I left the forum for a year This thread makes me wonder why I bothered to come back 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 First step improve the weather in Melbourne. For sure CFG can do it. Relocate the club to place where Zlatan would be happy to live. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thrillhouse Posted November 8, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Embee said: This thread makes me wonder why I bothered to come back 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, Thrillhouse said: @Embee posts like this surely make it worth it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 37 minutes ago, n i k o said: @Embee posts like this surely make it worth it I forgot about Simpson's Week during last off season. Fml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, haz said: I forgot about Simpson's Week during last off season. Fml Pretty sure Simpson's week has the same numerical value as a Germano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted November 8, 2019 Report Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Imtellingyou said: First step improve the weather in Melbourne. For sure CFG can do it. Relocate the club to place where Zlatan would be happy to live. It's obvious then. Move the Club to Morwell into the old Falcons Park, the seats have nearly faded from Royal Blue to City Blue anyway 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 We can't really blame Melbourne City and bad weather for poor attendance. In the event of the good weather there would be 7500 crowd. The problem is deeper and wider across the league. Our three home games were uncontested. The league has matured with more gaps opening. The game is not that much exciting and palatable. Unless your team is atop of the ladder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 I’m currently in Mumbai, and they only have one team in the Indian Super League, Mumbai City FC and I watched them play the other night. Tickets are roughly $2 Australian. Mumbai is ranked as having the 16th most expensive real estate market in the world (1 place behind Melbourne) so it’s not as poor as people may think, meaning people can absolutely afford to attend games. Football is the number 2 sport in India behind cricket, and some clubs average 60k+ attendance. Mumbai City FC is the only football club in a city of 18 million people and have an average attendance of 4000. Obviously different environment, but kind of puts our average of 6000 as one of three clubs in a city of 3 million people into a bit of global perspective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/11/09/the-hearts-marched-in-but-how-many-have-marched-out/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) On 09/11/2019 at 2:42 PM, GreenSeater said: I’m currently in Mumbai, and they only have one team in the Indian Super League, Mumbai City FC and I watched them play the other night. Tickets are roughly $2 Australian. Mumbai is ranked as having the 16th most expensive real estate market in the world (1 place behind Melbourne) so it’s not as poor as people may think, meaning people can absolutely afford to attend games. Football is the number 2 sport in India behind cricket, and some clubs average 60k+ attendance. Mumbai City FC is the only football club in a city of 18 million people and have an average attendance of 4000. Obviously different environment, but kind of puts our average of 6000 as one of three clubs in a city of 3 million people into a bit of global perspective. I almost ripped into CFG not giving a shit about its smaller clubs..... Realised that Mumbai City FC has no affiliation with CFG. Also I see on their wiki that their stadium only has 8000 capacity Honestly I would settle for a 12k stadium, Northern Suburbs on a train line. Edited December 24, 2019 by haz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, haz said: I almost ripped into CFG not giving a shit about its smaller clubs..... Realised that Mumbai City FC has no affiliation with CFG. Also I see on their wiki that their stadium only has 8000 capacity Honestly I would settle for a 12k stadium, Northern Suburbs on a train line. Exactly, so not only do they have a relatively low attendance, they also leave their ground half-empty. But nobody cares. They don’t see it as a problem at all because the club is stable and the fans they do have are really passionate Edited November 9, 2019 by GreenSeater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, GreenSeater said: Exactly, so not only do they have a relatively low attendance, they also leave their ground half-empty. But nobody cares. They don’t see it as a problem at all because the club is stable and the fans they do have are really passionate I never stress about it, just seems to be an Australian sports wank competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted November 21, 2019 Report Share Posted November 21, 2019 How do we get people to come to games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 keep playing attractive football and they will come, it's a very simple thing really. it was the reason that we stopped coming last season as my wife pointed out in simple terms,"like watching paint dry". Boring Boring Joyceball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 Unfortunately, playing attractive game won't bring more crowd. It's a long way from top for soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, Imtellingyou said: Unfortunately, playing attractive game won't bring more crowd. It's a long way from top for soccer. I disagree but only to an extent. If we play attractive football and achieve success, more of our members will turn up and we’d probably convert some casual fans into members. Beyond that however I think you’re right. It’s a league-wide problem and it’s going to be a slog for years to come. The independent league is an important piece of the puzzle but it looks like we’re in a holding pattern this year, probably because the deal was struck at the 11th hour and they didn’t have enough time. I’m expecting the league to implement a whole heap of changes for next season when Macarthur joins. And then the next big test is when this broadcast deal expires in 2022 I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 24, 2019 Report Share Posted November 24, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Harrison said: I disagree but only to an extent. If we play attractive football and achieve success, more of our members will turn up and we’d probably convert some casual fans into members. Beyond that however I think you’re right. It’s a league-wide problem and it’s going to be a slog for years to come. The independent league is an important piece of the puzzle but it looks like we’re in a holding pattern this year, probably because the deal was struck at the 11th hour and they didn’t have enough time. I’m expecting the league to implement a whole heap of changes for next season when Macarthur joins. And then the next big test is when this broadcast deal expires in 2022 I think. Agreed. League-wide problem. And changes won't necessarily fix anything either. Not until the clubs and the League actually start listening to what the real fans want. Edited November 24, 2019 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 The only way attractive football can be treated as an afterthought is if we are consistently winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 It's not all doom and gloom but it's just going to be a slow process. I've been on A-League hiatus for the past 2-3 years but the removal of Joyce plus the addition of Western United and Macarthur to come drew me back in this season, and I've managed to get my gf legitimately interested in the league and often more excited to go to City games than even I am so that's +2 for City games this season. The market is there, it's just going to take time to re-win existing fans and attract the next gen of kids of whom many would rather watch EPL at midnight or the NBA on their laptops at uni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted November 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 The Perth match will be interesting Friday night and Bruno will be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, citypool said: The Perth match will be interesting Friday night and Bruno will be there People forget very quickly. He was much-loved while he was with us, but to me he's just another Perth player now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted November 25, 2019 Report Share Posted November 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, jw1739 said: People forget very quickly. He was much-loved while he was with us, but to me he's just another Perth player now. If he was to score I would be very curious to see how he reacts and what the crowds response would be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 22 hours ago, Embee said: The only way attractive football can be treated as an afterthought is if we are consistently winning. I think that there's plenty that could be done by the clubs - certainly City - that would engage people and make them feel closer to the club. For example, a birthday card signed by their favourite player to every junior member, a "lucky number" draw for members at each home match, club information on our NYL/WL teams at half-time instead of the drivel that is currently presented, and that old chestnut - one match (at least) against another CFG club each season. I've got no doubt that we could come up with a long list of add-ons that would make supporters feel closer to the club. The club is trying, no doubt, but at the moment the League is pretty much "take it or leave it " stuff and a lot of people are leaving it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, MHFC-FAN said: If he was to score I would be very curious to see how he reacts and what the crowds response would be... Runs to the corner flag, pulls a Voodoo doll of Joyce out of his sock, douses it in petrol before lighting it whilst performing an ancient Uruguayan victory dance. The terrace, stand up and golf clap while nodding their heads approvingly Edited November 26, 2019 by haz 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: I think that there's plenty that could be done by the clubs - certainly City - that would engage people and make them feel closer to the club. For example, a birthday card signed by their favourite player to every junior member, a "lucky number" draw for members at each home match, club information on our NYL/WL teams at half-time instead of the drivel that is currently presented, and that old chestnut - one match (at least) against another CFG club each season. I've got no doubt that we could come up with a long list of add-ons that would make supporters feel closer to the club. The club is trying, no doubt, but at the moment the League is pretty much "take it or leave it " stuff and a lot of people are leaving it. You are right, there are lots of things the club could do to increase the entertainment value and to make supporters feel included and part of the club. I have always argued for some better half time activities. However I am sure that you like me and others have found that any suggestions put forward get no response. It's almost like they have an attitude of "my way or the highway". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyknuckles Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, haz said: Runs to the corner flag, pulls a Voodoo doll of Joyce out of his sock, douses it in petrol before lighting it whilst performing an ancient Uruguayan victory dance. The terrace, stand up and golf clap while nodding their heads approvingly Hopefully in the 90th minute after they are 4 down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityWildcat Posted November 26, 2019 Report Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 hours ago, MHFC-FAN said: If he was to score I would be very curious to see how he reacts and what the crowds response would be... I think he will be muted if he does that at the Yarra end ... he will run to the Perth fans at the other end ... and the crowd won't give a shit either way. He's Perth now.... but I do think that at some stage our Active will give him a round of applause. And that's no bad thing. But we've all moved on. Literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 For a club in a smaller city, Brisbane get good crowds. Over 11,000 to see them play Central Coast today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluka Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 Good to see Newcastle using the safe smoke, I wonder what the conditions and cost are as not all clubs aren’t using it and those that are don’t seem to be using it week in week out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 7 hours ago, Deluka said: Good to see Newcastle using the safe smoke, I wonder what the conditions and cost are as not all clubs aren’t using it and those that are don’t seem to be using it week in week out. Isn't really the "open air" grounds that have used it? I wouldn't be surprised if AAMI Park doesn't allow it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 30, 2019 Report Share Posted November 30, 2019 1 hour ago, haz said: Isn't really the "open air" grounds that have used it? I wouldn't be surprised if AAMI Park doesn't allow it AFAIK there's no such thing as "safe smoke." In Victoria, the "hay fever capital of the world" many people are sensitive to particulates in the air, irrespective of what they are chemically. And as a former sufferer up in Queensland when I worked there, my experience is that once sensitised it is very difficult to "desensitise." 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 More precisely, how do we get the same number of people, not less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanz Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 Play entertaining football, have an authentic identity (bring back red and white), have a news worthy marquee. There are plenty of city “fans” In Melbourne. They have all just lost interest. It won’t be hard to get fans back it will just be expensive... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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