Jovan Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jestr said: Called ref a cheat and told him to fuck off. That would do it. He should've added "you've got a little dick" as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 so fucking sick of these spastic cunts destroying games, 2 derbies in a row cause cunts don't know what offside is need to see a replay but looked like the sheep shagger fouled brandan for the first as well. should of pummelled those shit cunts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Had a prior event on, and someone told me score so just watched last 30 minutes Fuck those cunts, by the rules it's a goal but seriously they need to sort out the offside rule. It's fucked Highlight was Bouzanis calling berisha a gypsy cunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, neio said: Highlight was Bouzanis calling berisha a gypsy cunt He will get weeks for that if it gets picked up by the FFA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 minute ago, playmaker said: He will get weeks for that if it gets picked up by the FFA. He's gone for sure. Minimum 3 weeks but could be 5 or more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 He should get 3 weeks credit for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jestr said: Called ref a cheat and told him to fuck off. how do you know? all i heard after the red was "look at this, look at this fuckin comedy act here" also would love to know what bouza screamed at MvS Edited February 4, 2017 by jeffplz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 6 hours ago, jeffplz said: how do you know? all i heard after the red was "look at this, look at this fuckin comedy act here" also would love to know what bouza screamed at MvS "What times the march?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) How many games have we scored first in and gone on to draw or lose? That's two derbys in a row now. Edited February 4, 2017 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 6 hours ago, jeffplz said: how do you know? all i heard after the red was "look at this, look at this fuckin comedy act here" also would love to know what bouza screamed at MvS Bouzanis venting over the one sided shit performance of Beath no doubt. Interesting to see Valkanis was about to go over to Muscrat to shake hands I guess but then said out loud "fuck it!", turned around and headed for the dressing room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I would like somebody to look into the fact that the replays on the stadium big screen was being used by the fourth official and opposite linesman to overrule the offside goal. The clearly informed him in his ear. Maybe then they could have had another look at Bruno's header as he seemed onside with his feet (playing part of the body). I didn't mind the lineup and formation, with this setup you will most games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post haz Posted February 4, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 (edited) Being a referee (with state level qualifications) I would say the offside was benefit of the doubt. Was Berisha in a offside position? Yes. Was he involved in play? Yes. Was he between the ball and the defender (Muscat)? No. If the linesman gave it offside, Beath should agree with that decision without having to look at the big screen. If the linesman didn't put his flag up then the same goes, Beath should agree without having to look at the big screen. BUT. We should not be complaining about the offside. If we can't hold a lead for the last 15 minutes then whats the point of even turning up to play? Thats the real problem, not the refs. Edited February 4, 2017 by haz 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, haz said: BUT. We should not be complaining about the offside. If we can't hold a lead for the last 15 minutes then whats the point of even turning up to play? Thats the real problem, not the refs. Fucking this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Creek of shit. No paddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 8 hours ago, playmaker said: He will get weeks for that if it gets picked up by the FFA. Surely he can say he was provoked by the gypsy throwing the ball at him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, haz said: Being a referee (with state level qualifications) I would say the offside was benefit of the doubt. Was Berisha in a offside position? Yes. Was he involved in play? Yes. Was he between the ball and the defender (Muscat)? No. If the linesman gave it offside, Beath should agree with that decision without having to look at the big screen. If the linesman didn't put his flag up then the same goes, Beath should agree without having to look at the big screen. BUT. We should not be complaining about the offside. If we can't hold a lead for the last 15 minutes then whats the point of even turning up to play? Thats the real problem, not the refs. Agreed. And people are forgetting that these decisions sometimes go one way, sometimes the other. In recent derbies - Finkler's free-kick clearly crossed the line but the goal wasn't given, and in the first league derby this season Cahill was in an off-side position when Brattan scored and was IMO interfering with play. We've scored first in 15 out of 18 league matches this season if I've got the arithmetic correct. We knew we had an inadequate defence last season and did little to remedy it this season. Also add Cahill. We also play a high-press game that is bloody hard to play and last the distance in an Australian summer. Off the field there are also visible signs of poor management, so all-in-all IMO our disintegrating season is self-inflicted. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 5 year contract for Bouzanis for calling him a Gypsie Interesting that fornarolis goal was not shown on the score board but Victory second goal (offside) was shown multiple times. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I was having a discussion last night about our defence and comparing it to last year's Wilko, Kisnorbo, Sorensen combination and we were a bit unclear. It came up that Sorensen's experience and direction in defence was a major contribution to better defensive organisation, what do you guys think? 17 minutes ago, HeartOfCity said: Surely he can say he was provoked by the gypsy throwing the ball at him. Don't think there is a defence to a racist remark afaik. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, playmaker said: I was having a discussion last night about our defence and comparing it to last year's Wilko, Kisnorbo, Sorensen combination and we were a bit unclear. It came up that Sorensen's experience and direction in defence was a major contribution to better defensive organisation, what do you guys think? Undoubtedly Sorensen is commanding of his area, but Wilko was a huge factor. Big mistake letting him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 52 minutes ago, haz said: Being a referee (with state level qualifications) I would say the offside was benefit of the doubt. Was Berisha in a offside position? Yes. Was he involved in play? Yes. Was he between the ball and the defender (Muscat)? No. If the linesman gave it offside, Beath should agree with that decision without having to look at the big screen. If the linesman didn't put his flag up then the same goes, Beath should agree without having to look at the big screen. BUT. We should not be complaining about the offside. If we can't hold a lead for the last 15 minutes then whats the point of even turning up to play? Thats the real problem, not the refs. If there was a ladder based on goals scored/conceded in the final 10 minutes of the game we would be dead last having only scored once and conceded half our goals conceded during that time period 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 If you can't win a second half or at worst draw you wont win many games. To cop 2 goals in the last 6 minutes is a pure sign of mental fragility and lack of composure and concentration. So much for our so called new steely resolve. Failed badly last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Had time to sleep on it but sorry, still extremely pissed at what happened last night. Yeah ok, we coughed up a lead again. ...but seriously wtf was that game? Referees need to react objectively on every play, not be swayed by a roaring crowd or be intimidated by a demented bully coach. We talk about swings and roundabouts blah blah blah, but last night was a farce. Geria? Moulded by Muscat to be a pig. Should have been sent off within the first 30mins yet was not even spoken to? Seriously? Ansell, the same. Oh and if you're going to react on reputations and not pay fouls to Bruno or Brandan, then be consistent and don't pay them to fbk who is far and beyond a bigger culprit. Offside? Bahahaha what does that mean exactly? So Geria trying to cut back to Berisha, making Bouzanis shift his body weight towards him, means that Berisha isn't part of the play? Huh? How he could not be interfering? But that cnt lives offside and that's ok. Fuk I'm rambling now as im still so angry. Absolute farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 I don't disagree with the idea of playing the whistle and poor calls going both ways at different times. The standard of A-league reffering is becoming more and more laughable. The Berisha own goal incident is laughable in that it shows a real shortcoming in the rule or application of it, no way this should have stood. The Geria headbutt on Brandan in the first half is a foul and possibly a card anywhere else on the field (on any other player). The ball was gone and Geria just went to smash him. The repetitious fouling of Fornaroli without cards being produced. As for Bouzanis probably one of his better games with the pen save and but why get racial? Berisha is a cunt just call him that. Honestly I don't think we were that bad last night and if not for some shit luck would have at least drawn. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, wombegongal said: Honestly I don't think we were that bad last night and if not for some shit luck would have at least drawn. But we can't rely on luck to pull us through. We are so consistent with coughing up points. Indeed this is our worst-ever season in doing so. It's a systemic problem in the way the club is managed, because changing the personnel doesn't seem to make any positive difference. It's the same with off-field issues such as City Voice, Citizens, Member-get-Member - a systemic management problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, jw1739 said: But we can't rely on luck to pull us through. We are so consistent with coughing up points. Indeed this is our worst-ever season in doing so. It's a systemic problem in the way the club is managed, because changing the personnel doesn't seem to make any positive difference. It's the same with off-field issues such as City Voice, Citizens, Member-get-Member - a systemic management problem. Its something that's going to hurt us much more this season as we really struggle to score more than 1 goal. Last season we could afford to cough up a last minute goal as we regularly scored 2 or more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 1 hour ago, belaguttman said: If there was a ladder based on goals scored/conceded in the final 10 minutes of the game we would be dead last having only scored once and conceded half our goals conceded during that time period That is absolutely staggering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted February 4, 2017 Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 14 minutes ago, jw1739 said: But we can't rely on luck to pull us through. We are so consistent with coughing up points. Indeed this is our worst-ever season in doing so. It's a systemic problem in the way the club is managed, because changing the personnel doesn't seem to make any positive difference. It's the same with off-field issues such as City Voice, Citizens, Member-get-Member - a systemic management problem. Actually I'd argue the whole sport is a game of luck. The idea being that you give yourself the most high percentage opportunities you can. At the moment I agree that we have systemic issues but I disagree that personal don't make a difference. When we have a proper replacement for JVS next year I have no doubt it will make a difference. Last night for mine though we weren't half as diabolical at the back as previously. Even though we copped 2 in a minute or so. Also worth noting that we have conceded way less goals with Jacobsen on the pitch than any other centre back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 2 hours ago, haz said: Being a referee (with state level qualifications) I would say the offside was benefit of the doubt. Was Berisha in a offside position? Yes. Was he involved in play? Yes. Was he between the ball and the defender (Muscat)? No. If the linesman gave it offside, Beath should agree with that decision without having to look at the big screen. If the linesman didn't put his flag up then the same goes, Beath should agree without having to look at the big screen. BUT. We should not be complaining about the offside. If we can't hold a lead for the last 15 minutes then whats the point of even turning up to play? Thats the real problem, not the refs. Compounded by the fact that the players and coaches tend to look for excuses, rather than focusing on the real problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, SF33 said: Compounded by the fact that the players and coaches and our fans tend to look for excuses, rather than focusing on the real problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Other than "cash me outside howbow dah" does anyone actually know what cahill said? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Because the club wanted to play this stupid three at the back they didn't see the need to keep Wilkinson. Imagine if we had Wilkinson and Jakobsen playing in central defence my god you might as well give us the trophy at the start of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: Agreed. And people are forgetting that these decisions sometimes go one way, sometimes the other. In recent derbies - Finkler's free-kick clearly crossed the line but the goal wasn't given, and in the first league derby this season Cahill was in an off-side position when Brattan scored and was IMO interfering with play. We've scored first in 15 out of 18 league matches this season if I've got the arithmetic correct. We knew we had an inadequate defence last season and did little to remedy it this season. Also add Cahill. We also play a high-press game that is bloody hard to play and last the distance in an Australian summer. Off the field there are also visible signs of poor management, so all-in-all IMO our disintegrating season is self-inflicted. Yeah but in this instance the stadium replays clearly influenced this call - the replays on the screens were completely one sided, as our offside goal wasn't shown. You either cover them all or don't show them, surely there are rules regarding this and it just can't be up to the hosting team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 10 minutes ago, n i k o said: Because the club wanted to play this stupid three at the back they didn't see the need to keep Wilkinson. Imagine if we had Wilkinson and Jakobsen playing in central defence my god you might as well give us the trophy at the start of the season. The only reason Wilkinson's at Sydney is because he wanted to go, isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong, but I find it hard to believe that he would have been keen to stay but we just said "Nah, we don't need you. Catch ya, mate." Even for this club, that doesn't make much sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, SF33 said: The only reason Wilkinson's at Sydney is because he wanted to go, isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong, but I find it hard to believe that he would have been keen to stay but we just said "Nah, we don't need you. Catch ya, mate." Even for this club, that doesn't make much sense I heard he wanted more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 34 minutes ago, SF33 said: The only reason Wilkinson's at Sydney is because he wanted to go, isn't it? Maybe I'm wrong, but I find it hard to believe that he would have been keen to stay but we just said "Nah, we don't need you. Catch ya, mate." Even for this club, that doesn't make much sense When he moved back to Australia from Korea his wife and kids returned to Sydney. He agreed to sign for us for a few months but was always going to return to Sydney after last season concluded 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Le Cube Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Last night we didn't register a shot on target until the 58th minute. Kilkenny's deflected goal was the only goal we have scored from open play in the last 3 matches. These 2 stats are damning. A lot is said on this forum about our rubbish defence (and rightly so) but our attack is at least as bad. Also, we only have 2 wins this season against teams currently in the top 6 (Victory and Newcastle). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 4 hours ago, playmaker said: I was having a discussion last night about our defence and comparing it to last year's Wilko, Kisnorbo, Sorensen combination and we were a bit unclear. It came up that Sorensen's experience and direction in defence was a major contribution to better defensive organisation, what do you guys think? Don't think there is a defence to a racist remark afaik. This is a goalkeeper's role and undoubtedly Sorensen's strength. Not so with Bouzanis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 1 minute ago, mjake1234 said: This is a goalkeeper's role and undoubtedly Sorensen's strength. Not so with Bouzanis. Tend to agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 1 hour ago, n i k o said: Because the club wanted to play this stupid three at the back they didn't see the need to keep Wilkinson. Imagine if we had Wilkinson and Jakobsen playing in central defence my god you might as well give us the trophy at the start of the season. You mean rubbish three at the back like the top two sides in England? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, wombegongal said: You mean rubbish three at the back like the top two sides in England? With far superior technical skill, far superior CBs and far superior technical and tactical coaches than we have, which is required for that formation with the tactics we play to succeed. Can't compare the 2 competitions as they are light years apart Edited February 5, 2017 by playmaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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