n i k o Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 Absolutely nothing in that. VAR should have already denied any penalty. Fckn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 I don't think I've ever been more confused if a player is good or shit as I am with Jakolis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) Fucking pathetic And fuck off talbolt and his always shit first touch too This loss will be the game that will stop us from progressing to the next round unfortunately. Edited November 8, 2023 by kingofhearts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 (edited) Expenses misses by JMAC in the 1st half and now costly subs now as Lopane just brings very little. Edited November 8, 2023 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 yeah threw that one away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 Was it a pen? My stream died for the 83rd time this half as he blew the whistle and it fired back up as the kick was being taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 Just now, neio said: Was it a pen? My stream died for the 83rd time this half as he blew the whistle and it fired back up as the kick was being taken Fuck same here. They were taking a corner then suddenly they're slotting a pen. What the fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, neio said: Was it a pen? My stream died for the 83rd time this half as he blew the whistle and it fired back up as the kick was being taken It was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, neio said: I don't think I've ever been more confused if a player is good or shit as I am with Jakolis He has great technical skill but his decision making is shithouse. If he has a better head on his shoulders he could make it at a higher level in Europe. We lost all control of the game at the 60 minute mark when we made that double substitution. Very, very disappointing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 Our first ever loss in the ACL! (shall we blame the coach by not reading the game) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 This is what loss has cost us, $50K USD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 A hugely disappointing evening. We had five members of our Gang there, the most we've had at any match for quite a while. The two VAR decisions on offside took a long time to decide and must have been marginal at best. As for our own performance all I will say is could we please stop passing the fucking ball backwards at every possible opportunity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 Some random observations: - our usual failing, we failed to turn first half dominance into goals (we were unlucky to some extent) and then got pegged back as we faded in the second half - we're very reliant on a small number of players to perform. There's not much depth and too few real game changers - I'm unconvinced by Natel. Honestly, is he a patch on Nabbout? - I'll reserve judgement on the youngsters until I've seen more, but I'm not seeing the next Bos or Tilio amongst them, and we certainly don't seem to have an exciting attacking impact sub amongst them 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 Are there any replays of the two first-half VAR decisions for offside? They took an age to decide, and the Thai guys in front of us thought the first was a goal and not offside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 41 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Are there any replays of the two first-half VAR decisions for offside? They took an age to decide, and the Thai guys in front of us thought the first was a goal and not offside. The 1st one looked like it was off, the 2nd one own first glance looked very tight and then they didn't really show another replay. But for both of them there was no need for Jakolis to be offside, he gained absolutely zero by making it so tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 11 hours ago, jw1739 said: A hugely disappointing evening. We had five members of our Gang there, the most we've had at any match for quite a while. The two VAR decisions on offside took a long time to decide and must have been marginal at best. As for our own performance all I will say is could we please stop passing the fucking ball backwards at every possible opportunity. I really think var has gotten worse across all of football it really takes you out of the moment. We don't have a good team so got no expectations for the rest of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 8, 2023 Report Share Posted November 8, 2023 7 minutes ago, citypool said: I really think var has gotten worse across all of football it really takes you out of the moment. We don't have a good team so got no expectations for the rest of the season Yes. The recent Spurs-Chelsea example must be the worst yet. In all, including long delays for the VAR, I think it was 23 minutes added time! Jakolis is a most irritating player - he was play-acting an injury again last night. We seem to have no-one who can run on to a through ball, out-pace the defence and at least get a shot on goal. Jakolis, JMac and Natel all had opportunities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) Was at the game and dont think our current squad suits the formation we play. We try to dominate possession and then are totally predictable with side to side passing, and then wide attacks that go nowhere, except backwards or side to side. Talbot kills 98% of attacks he is involved in .... i think Galloway should be given a go. Jakolis is improving, has a sublime touch, but still struggles with his finishing pass, and has no chemistry yet with JMAC, or Aziz. And our system does not work for JMAC. Its so easy for anyone to defend against us , let us have the ball and overload out wide and compress the middle ... our wide players hardly ever try and get in behind (only Aziz on occasion). And eventually we cough one up on the counter. And our current style means we get very few counter attacking chances. And when we do, JMAC has no pace or touch to take advantage (as he is a tap in goal scorer) Maybe we should have had a couple of goals last night, but also out stale play makes me think we didn't deserve to win. With the players we have, I think Vidmar must tweak our formation. I want to see a traditional 4-4-2 and this would be my starting 11 ... Young (GK) Galloway Nuno Good Aziz Sakhi Ugarkovic Arslan Jakolis JMAC Natel I think this would work heaps better. Easy for Leckie to slot back in as well... Edited November 9, 2023 by Torn Asunder 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Torn Asunder said: Was at the game and dont think our current squad suits the formation we play. We try to dominate possession and then are totally predictable with side to side, passing, and then wide attacks that go nowhere, except backwards or side to side. Talbot kills 98% of attacks he is involved in .... i think Galloway should be given a go. Jakolis is improving, has a sublime touch, but still struggles with his finishing pass, and has no chemistry yet with JMAC, or Aziz. And our system does not work for JMAC. Its so easy for anyone to defend against us , let us have the ball and overload out wide and compress the middle ... our wide players hardly ever try and get in behind (only Aziz on occasion). And eventually we cough one up on the counter. And our current style means we get very few counter attacking chances. And when we do, JMAC has no pace or touch to take advantage (as he is a tap in goal scorer) Maybe we should have had a couple of goals last night, but also out stale play makes me think we didn't deserve to win. With the players we have, I think Vidmar must tweak our formation. I want to see a traditional 4-4-2 and this would be my starting 11 ... Young (GK) Galloway Nuno Good Aziz Sakhi Ugarkovic Arslan Jakolis JMAC Natel I think this would work heaps better. Easy for Leckie to slot back in as well... I highly doubt we will change our formation, the City way is the way. You know Haaland also doesn’t have the best touch on the pitch, he is also a poucher so I can see similarities there. Unfortunately Haaland doesn’t get worked off the ball so easily, obviously there is a size and pace difference. Also whilst we appreciate JMAC the conversion ratio stats just aren’t that great. In the City system every player from GK to CF needs to have good ball control. Edited November 9, 2023 by Mr MO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 37 minutes ago, Mr MO said: I highly doubt we will change our formation, the City way is the way. You know Haaland also doesn’t have the best touch on the pitch, he is also a poucher so I can see similarities there. Unfortunately Haaland doesn’t get worked off the ball so easily, obviously there is a size and pace difference. Also whilst we appreciate JMAC the conversion ratio stats just aren’t that great. In the City system every player from GK to CF needs to have good ball control. I agree that height and pace are a big factor with our current squad. I'm not convinced that formation is the issue here although I agree that just persisting with JMac as the lone striker for the full match doesn't make sense when you need at least a draw. IMO we just do not move the ball forward quickly enough to exploit our possession. Again last night there were occasions when a player is standing over the ball and there's no movement ahead. Vidmar has definitely got a big job on his hands. He's not going to be able to change the skills or pace with the mature players we have in our squad. IMO what he has to do is to change the mind-set. Buriram had a midget as a GK but we rarely tested him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 Awful performance, 1st half was ok but 2nd half was dreadful, one of the worse performances I have seen. Not blaming Vidmar but don't know why we didn't go for instant stability and try and bring someone in permanently Don't think with the clubs situation having just an interim is smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 5 hours ago, jw1739 said: Are there any replays of the two first-half VAR decisions for offside? They took an age to decide, and the Thai guys in front of us thought the first was a goal and not offside. You can watch the full replay or partial on Paramount if you have it. Viddies hardly been in the job, so can't really have any blame, it's kind of the sort of expected performance at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Zanty said: Awful performance, 1st half was ok but 2nd half was dreadful, one of the worse performances I have seen. Not blaming Vidmar but don't know why we didn't go for instant stability and try and bring someone in permanently Don't think with the clubs situation having just an interim is smart. We did that with Rado and it didn't work out. The appointment of Vidmar sounds almost like panic mode - one phone call and it's done. We've all watched more City matches than he has. I think he's got a very tough job ahead - an ageing squad and no game-changing players on his bench. I don't think anyone can call last night's performance as anything less than very disappointing. We're still not down and out of course, but losing has made our task a lot more difficult - one point out of six at home. There's three weeks until the next match, in Japan, against Ventforet who won 4-1 last night and who now head the table on goal difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: We did that with Rado and it didn't work out. The appointment of Vidmar sounds almost like panic mode - one phone call and it's done. We've all watched more City matches than he has. I think he's got a very tough job ahead - an ageing squad and no game-changing players on his bench. I don't think anyone can call last night's performance as anything less than very disappointing. We're still not down and out of course, but losing has made our task a lot more difficult - one point out of six at home. There's three weeks until the next match, in Japan, against Ventforet who won 4-1 last night and who now head the table on goal difference. Would love to be surprised and we beat Ventforet but in a realistic world we should go there get at least a point and hopefully win the final game against Zhejiang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 13 hours ago, jw1739 said: We did that with Rado and it didn't work out. The appointment of Vidmar sounds almost like panic mode - one phone call and it's done. We've all watched more City matches than he has. I think he's got a very tough job ahead - an ageing squad and no game-changing players on his bench. I don't think anyone can call last night's performance as anything less than very disappointing. We're still not down and out of course, but losing has made our task a lot more difficult - one point out of six at home. There's three weeks until the next match, in Japan, against Ventforet who won 4-1 last night and who now head the table on goal difference. Have we watched more City matches than Vidmar? This is a brand new team with only three or four starters from last season. JMac is beginning to slow down, Good is certainly slower as is Reis, and Talbot has stalled. The rest are all new. I only managed to watch the first half but what Vidmar would have seen is what we saw. I would have liked him to bring Galloway on but he now knows what he has to work with. As for a single call? we don't know that for sure. Perhaps there was a call to Ufuk Talay or perhaps Petrillo had already been in contact with Vidmar's management. We will never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Hack Posted November 9, 2023 Report Share Posted November 9, 2023 Viddy has had two training sessions with the boys, it will take him much longer than that to assess where he wants the squad to be. I'd think bringing on the kids was to assess what he's got available which doesn't appear like much from that source. I think Petrillo has to take a lot of the blame for this year's squad. Feel we've gone away from the under 30 visa pick ups and bought in a lot older and slower guys. And lost some good youngsters from last year because they weren't getting game time which was fault of Rado 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Le Hack said: Viddy has had two training sessions with the boys, it will take him much longer than that to assess where he wants the squad to be. I'd think bringing on the kids was to assess what he's got available which doesn't appear like much from that source. I think Petrillo has to take a lot of the blame for this year's squad. Feel we've gone away from the under 30 visa pick ups and bought in a lot older and slower guys. And lost some good youngsters from last year because they weren't getting game time which was fault of Rado Spot on. End of this current season will also see the end of the current contracts of: Young, Good, Reis, Hall, Politidis, Antonis, Sakhi, Maclaren, Leckie, Nabbout, Jakolis and Natel. So we could see another major rebuild, especially up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted November 10, 2023 Report Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: Spot on. End of this current season will also see the end of the current contracts of: Young, Good, Reis, Hall, Politidis, Antonis, Sakhi, Maclaren, Leckie, Nabbout, Jakolis and Natel. So we could see another major rebuild, especially up front. Sakhi was an option to buy so potential for him to stay longer if club want to pay a fee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted November 12, 2023 Report Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 09/11/2023 at 4:04 PM, jw1739 said: We did that with Rado and it didn't work out. The appointment of Vidmar sounds almost like panic mode - one phone call and it's done. We've all watched more City matches than he has. I think he's got a very tough job ahead - an ageing squad and no game-changing players on his bench. I don't think anyone can call last night's performance as anything less than very disappointing. We're still not down and out of course, but losing has made our task a lot more difficult - one point out of six at home. There's three weeks until the next match, in Japan, against Ventforet who won 4-1 last night and who now head the table on goal difference. I am pretty confident the club have had Vidmar in the wings for a while. Petrillo said he had been wanting to get him involved in the club in some capacity or another. I wouod be very surprised if they hadn't tapped him up after the GF loss last year (if not earlier). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) IIRC the attendance was announced at the match. I didn't listen properly at the time - anyone know what it was? I can't find an official number. Edited November 16, 2023 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: IIRC the attendance was announced at the match. I didn't listen properly at the time - anyone know what it was? I can't find an official number. 2,472 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 16, 2023 Report Share Posted November 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, Zanty said: 2,472 Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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