MTP Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Anywhere but The Imperial for Pre-Game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boffins Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Anywhere but The Imperial for Pre-Game. Cara is a cunt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 i agree fuck them always have never been a fan but after tonight and derby week getting photos taken of us and pointed out as where the trouble makers when all we do is spend our money and try and make a good atmosphere, its a joke they'll let liverpool fans in there and sing as loud as they want but when we do where hooligans disgraceful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 got kicked out because some douche from the protest called us unaustralian and said this isnt england when we where having a chant,even though the union jack is in our fucking flag we started from convicts from england and ireland but yet where not australian im as aussie as anyone i hate pricks who think australia is some culture WHERE A FUCKING MULTICULTRAL CITY STOP BEING RACIST PRICKS LIVING UP TO THE NAME AND ACTUALLY DIVERSE YOURSELF AWAY FROM IT ffs so angry. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP Posted March 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) got kicked out because some douche from the protest called us unaustralian and said this isnt england when we where having a chant,even though the union jack is in our fucking flag we started from convicts from england and ireland but yet where not australian im as aussie as anyone i hate pricks who think australia is some culture WHERE A FUCKING MULTICULTRAL CITY STOP BEING RACIST PRICKS LIVING UP TO THE NAME AND ACTUALLY DIVERSE YOURSELF AWAY FROM IT ffs so angry. Its not even that for me. For me, its the fact that the bar staff took the side of the two clowns (who for those wondering, started the trouble) over the people who constantly throw thousands between us over the bar week in week out. She then threatened us, cut us off and then called the police. Working in hospitality its a known fact you look after your regulars (unless they've done something outrageous) because their business is a lot more important to you than the next 2 pints those two blokes would of had then fucked off. Will not be returning. Edited March 16, 2014 by MTP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 You're all missing the main point. How was the junkie slag getting involved?!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Can't wait to see how many balls willo blasts over the crossbar, over or under 10 for this game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Thinking about making the trip although after today's effort, now I'm not so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 got kicked out because some douche from the protest called us unaustralian and said this isnt england when we where having a chant,even though the union jack is in our fucking flag we started from convicts from england and ireland but yet where not australian im as aussie as anyone i hate pricks who think australia is some culture WHERE A FUCKING MULTICULTRAL CITY STOP BEING RACIST PRICKS LIVING UP TO THE NAME AND ACTUALLY DIVERSE YOURSELF AWAY FROM IT ffs so angry. Lmfao those fuckin protesters bunch of hipster cunts with half shaved heads breathing our air fuckin' left wing nutjobs and butch-ass lesbians with half shaved heads and blue hair fuck off you testosterone-infused humans with a vagina 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I turn 18 on this game day 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red and white in that number Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 got kicked out because some douche from the protest called us unaustralian and said this isnt england when we where having a chant,even though the union jack is in our fucking flag we started from convicts from england and ireland but yet where not australian im as aussie as anyone i hate pricks who think australia is some culture WHERE A FUCKING MULTICULTRAL CITY STOP BEING RACIST PRICKS LIVING UP TO THE NAME AND ACTUALLY DIVERSE YOURSELF AWAY FROM IT ffs so angry. Was this before the game or after ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I turn 18 on this game day That's pretty cool. Hopefully a good game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD. Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Is this the end of the imp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biancorosso7 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Mauk in. Query if Vrankovic gets a look going forward, which presumably will depend on how the club feels re: Kisnorbo. All efforts should be made to get Willo the Golden Boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Is this the end of the imp? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart is Melbourne Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I turn 18 on this game day Should go to the strippers pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 play tando mifsud mauk gooch vranks finals hopes gone now so nothing to lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 For the love of god I hope the pitch is in somewhat better condition than yesterday. That was depressing seeing aami like that. Fuckin concerts and other codes ruining our game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 The good news is that MV play Yokohama F Marinos tomorrow and then the next event is the Heart vs CCM on Sunday. This means that the pitch should have recovered somewhat from the NRL/Union demolition job. BTW Yokohama F Marinos are my Japanese team so I shall try and be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 After the weekend's performance I was ready to chuck out the membership. But I'm keen to finish the season on a high so will make the trip for this one. Just really wanna see the kids given and run and the player's to show a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Actually it will be interesting to see what strategy the club takes from now on. If they deem that the chances of Heart making the six are non existent then will they play younger fringe players? After all not only does Heart have to win every match, other teams have to fall the right way and that is not a given. Of course for players requiring a new contract then they really need to come and play. JVS will also have to be on the money with his tactics and subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Id say heads will drop, and we will lose or draw, seems like the new owners haven't 'respected' the club and players by waiting till the end of the season before making player decisions, so perhaps the ones who wont be here have been told. This will probably accelerate because we wont make the 6. Edited March 18, 2014 by Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Id say heads will drop, and we will lose or draw, seems like the new owners haven't 'respected' the club and players by waiting till the end of the season before making player decisions, so perhaps the ones who wont be here have been told. This will probably accelerate because we wont make the 6. I don't think that's disrespect at all, considering finals would be a luxury based on the rest of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Actually it will be interesting to see what strategy the club takes from now on. If they deem that the chances of Heart making the six are non existent then will they play younger fringe players? After all not only does Heart have to win every match, other teams have to fall the right way and that is not a given. Of course for players requiring a new contract then they really need to come and play. JVS will also have to be on the money with his tactics and subs. I think that the hands off approach of the new consortium is the correct approach for this season - look and observe, collect data and then act in an informed way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Id say heads will drop, and we will lose or draw, seems like the new owners haven't 'respected' the club and players by waiting till the end of the season before making player decisions, so perhaps the ones who wont be here have been told. This will probably accelerate because we wont make the 6. I don't think that's disrespect at all, considering finals would be a luxury based on the rest of the season I agree with you, just thought id take a little cheap jab at them since they said there will be no decisions made at the press conference out of respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Id say heads will drop, and we will lose or draw, seems like the new owners haven't 'respected' the club and players by waiting till the end of the season before making player decisions, so perhaps the ones who wont be here have been told. This will probably accelerate because we wont make the 6. I don't think that's disrespect at all, considering finals would be a luxury based on the rest of the season I agree with you, just thought id take a little cheap jab at them since they said there will be no decisions made at the press conference out of respect Actually I suspect it has everything to do with the ability of players to find new clubs. After all the player managers will have to hawk them to other A-League clubs or look for overseas options and this takes time. So maybe the younger players that were in the NYL have already been told and they are looking for new clubs as their season is effectively over and to boot they are in an insecure financial position. Other players would already be seeing the writing on the wall and depending on the circumstances (financially and playing wise) be in a state of anxiety. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Out of the kids from the NYL team on the seniors list I think Mauk Garrucio Vranks and Archibald are safe. I think Mitchinson is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Id say heads will drop, and we will lose or draw, seems like the new owners haven't 'respected' the club and players by waiting till the end of the season before making player decisions, so perhaps the ones who wont be here have been told. This will probably accelerate because we wont make the 6. I don't think that's disrespect at all, considering finals would be a luxury based on the rest of the season I agree with you, just thought id take a little cheap jab at them since they said there will be no decisions made at the press conference out of respect Dylan, I have to correct you there I'm afraid. Soriano did not say that at all. What he said was that there would be no more major announcements until the end of the current season. Announcements are not the same as decisions. I would think it unreasonable if the new owners were not already making decisions. If we want to turn this club around for next season we need a committed team (administrative, coaching, playing group) working together as quickly as possible. Other threads indicate that players are being offered contracts for next season, which inevitably means other players are not. That sort of information is impossible to conceal when you have only a small group of 21 players. I would think there are administrative people also in the same boat. In that context I note that Munn and Didulica have been almost invisible since 23rd January. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Out of the kids from the NYL team on the seniors list I think Mauk Garrucio Vranks and Archibald are safe. I think Mitchinson is gone. Archibald was added to the senior list on the club website a few days ago. I found that odd at this stage of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Out of the kids from the NYL team on the seniors list I think Mauk Garrucio Vranks and Archibald are safe. I think Mitchinson is gone. Archibald was added to the senior list on the club website a few days ago. I found that odd at this stage of the season. He has a senior deal for 2014/15, was made the same deal as Mauk, Gooch, etc. Basically, the 'gun' NYL players are offered a 2 (or more) year deal where they spend one in NYL and a second the following year as a 'youth' senior player, where they are paid under the leagues standard minimum wage (approx. 35-38k) as per the PFA agreement, but outside the cap. Out of the kids from the NYL team on the seniors list I think Mauk Garrucio Vranks and Archibald are safe. I think Mitchinson is gone. Don't be so sure on Vranks. Yes, Mitchinson is gone, as is Walker... Edited March 18, 2014 by LR9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ae7smith Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I know this is kinds straying from the thread, but what do people know about our youth team? Seems that only Archibald and O'Dea have made call ups to the senior list, any others worth bringing up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I think schroen might get a call up next season, has looked good this year just maybe a little unpolished. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Re-iterate, whilst expensive, a reserves competition is necessary for player retention and development. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheball Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Vranks Walker and Mitchinson are on full time details not youth deals. Walker and Mitchinson only have one year deals. Mitchinson has only ever been 17 man so will be gone. Walker likely to be released too. If Vranks only has one year deal he will go too. None appear rated by JVS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Vranks Walker and Mitchinson are on full time details not youth deals. Walker and Mitchinson only have one year deals. Mitchinson has only ever been 17 man so will be gone. Walker likely to be released too. If Vranks only has one year deal he will go too. None appear rated by JVS Considering none of these guys were rated by JVS or the JA and HF coaching team you would have to think like about 40% of the youngsters signed in the A League that they may only go to be good NPL players. Probably Vranks has the best chance of a second chance IMO (I would suggest near family in NSW) because CB's of course take a lot more time to mature than most other positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheball Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Not true that JA didn't rate them. He gave Walker close to 20 appearances. Vranks had more time on bench because of where he played whilst even Mitchinson had 9 games which would probably have been more if he hadn't got injured half way through. Walker and Mitchinson were both on youth team contracts at the time and JA signed them on professional deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I know this is kinds straying from the thread, but what do people know about our youth team? Seems that only Archibald and O'Dea have made call ups to the senior list, any others worth bringing up? True that Archibald and O'Dea are the only NYL players that have been called up to match day squads under JVS. However, Retre, Dao, Schroen, Petreski, O'Dea, Archibald, Stevanja are all training with the senior team until the end of the season, and they have been training with the senior team since the end of the NYL season a while ago. There's a lot of potential in that group IMO. Not true that JA didn't rate them. He gave Walker close to 20 appearances. Vranks had more time on bench because of where he played whilst even Mitchinson had 9 games which would probably have been more if he hadn't got injured half way through. Walker and Mitchinson were both on youth team contracts at the time and JA signed them on professional deals. But the majority of those 16 appearances (by my count) that Walker got under JA were given to Walker when Marrone was sold last season and there was no other realistic option for RB (Walker got 13 appearances last season). Thankfully JA did sign Walker on a pro deal, even though it was only a 1 year contract (and almost certainly only on minimum wage). But there are precious few good Australian fullbacks out there (and Heart weren't keen on chasing any), so that's why Ramsay was initially signed to play LB and that why Walker got his pro contract. Whilst this season, because Hoffman trained in RB for several weeks during pre-season, Aloisi opted for the 25 year old striker-turned-midfielder-turned-rightback over Walker. So pretty much the moment he could not play Walker, he didn't. As for this season, Walker has only made 3 appearances, and he only received those appearances because Hoffman was injured. He was thrown in the deep end and got his first appearance this season away to Brisbane (whilst the whole team was under-performing as Aloisi's win-less streak rolled on), and then only played in the WSW match after and the Sydney match after that until Hoffman was fit again. So I don't know how it can be said that JA 'rated' Walker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Not true that JA didn't rate them. He gave Walker close to 20 appearances. Vranks had more time on bench because of where he played whilst even Mitchinson had 9 games which would probably have been more if he hadn't got injured half way through. Walker and Mitchinson were both on youth team contracts at the time and JA signed them on professional deals. If he did not rate him then how can you explain the playing of The Hoff in front of Walker for 12 winless games in row? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ontheball Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Only JA can explain that. Too many on here post as if they are itk. JA signed signed Walker so must have rated him. His contract was not the minimum. Storm Roux (CCM) was available at the time and offered to Heart. Only ever posted facts on here but you all would rather believe the bulls*** posted perhaps I shouldn't bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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