Dylan Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 As suspected. Off to the jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyd89 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 This Damien Duff guy - seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 This Damien Duff guy - seriously.IMO he didn't do a lot on the pitch, but the rumoured $400,000 we paid Duff was worth it if he can recommend all our deadwood to other clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 One of the comments from the Jets Facebook page regarding the signing of Hoffman" im glad the roar is my new home club !!!!!"Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attack11 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Really happy this has happened, no more getting by just doing the minimum. He never challenged anyone for a starting spot, no attempt to make any position his... With our attack being so poor Hoffman had an amazing opportunity to seal himself as a quality striker... He didn't do that and took the opportunity for granted. He was a one time olyroo striker and in a few short years he ended up being an experimental right back defender...The spot light is now firmly on Wilo this season... Another under performer just happy to be getting paid for playing football... No ambition to be a winner... Hopefully the club release him too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Really happy this has happened, no more getting by just doing the minimum. He never challenged anyone for a starting spot, no attempt to make any position his... With our attack being so poor Hoffman had an amazing opportunity to seal himself as a quality striker... He didn't do that and took the opportunity for granted. He was a one time olyroo striker and in a few short years he ended up being an experimental right back defender...The spot light is now firmly on Wilo this season... Another under performer just happy to be getting paid for playing football... No ambition to be a winner... Hopefully the club release him too Looking at the squad so far, I'd say Williams, Koren and Brown will all go at the end of the 2015/16 season. Also question marks over Marino (he seems to have disappeared) and Mauk if they aren't really pushing for a place in the starting line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Looking at the squad so far, I'd say Williams, Koren and Brown will all go at the end of the 2015/16 season. Also question marks over Marino (he seems to have disappeared) and Mauk if they aren't really pushing for a place in the starting line-up.Anyone else remember the Walkerists calling for Marino to start as our Number Nine after he scored against Brisbane? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Anyone else remember the Walkerists calling for Marino to start as our Number Nine after he scored against Brisbane?'such a great finisher' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Anyone else remember the Walkerists calling for Marino to start as our Number Nine after he scored against Brisbane?Love the term "walkerists" at the time it didnt seem unreasonable given our options upfront. The only yoof player worth giving a go a the moment would be Dekker who has been performing at NYL and NPL level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 It easy to pooh pooh the youth team and use the Walkerist line but until we start bringing in some youth players our improvement as a team will depend on recruiting/recycling discarded or out of favour players. Melling before last season was a youth player. Goode and Hamil and even Babaj are all examples of blokes being able to step up. I think Marino Retre and Mauk are potentially capable they just need to seize their opportunity. If one of those 3 could become like say Melling then it's a bonus and tbf I don't know enough about Dekker to comment. So I don't think it's an either or argument about playing youth it's more about preparing for their moment and if there not up to it move them on sooner rather than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I agree with the "Walkerists" term in that people on here have a habit of overhyping our youth and calling for them to start, but when we have the best youth team in the country we really do need to start using it by occasionally promoting players, even just to come off the bench for a few minutes here and there. We can't afford to lose all of our best youth to teams that will play them if JVS refuses to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 One thing you can be sure of is if the kids are good enough they will be played. may not see them come through our own academy but already seeing JVS collect some of the best youth in the country kuzmamovski, Melling and chapman in the past two seasons already. The link to manchester will be huge in this. Any kid with the ability has pretty quickly found themselves in the first team regularly under JVS. Back on topic though; regardless of how irrational it is a small part of me died inside this morning reading that Hoff was released. Clearly a good decision but still hate it. Had the same feelings around Carlton Cole and Marlon Harewood when they were released by West Ham. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 One thing you can be sure of is if the kids are good enough they will be played. may not see them come through our own academy but already seeing JVS collect some of the best youth in the country kuzmamovski, Melling and chapman in the past two seasons already. The link to manchester will be huge in this.Any kid with the ability has pretty quickly found themselves in the first team regularly under JVS.Back on topic though; regardless of how irrational it is a small part of me died inside this morning reading that Hoff was released. Clearly a good decision but still hate it. Had the same feelings around Carlton Cole and Marlon Harewood when they were released by West Ham.Yeh absolutely, it was the same with Cahill at Everton when the time came for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Love the term "walkerists" at the time it didnt seem unreasonable given our options upfront. The only yoof player worth giving a go a the moment would be Dekker who has been performing at NYL and NPL level.Who is this with the boys on the Gold Coast? Is it Phil Petreski? Edited July 17, 2015 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illeatyourheart Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Who is this with the boys on the Gold Coast? Is it Phil Petreski?yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Who is this with the boys on the Gold Coast? Is it Phil Petreski? Yep, he's been decent in NPL but from what I saw wasn't aleague level honestly just think he's too small. Good on him getting taken up there though will be good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Phil's decent, he's got good technique and reads the game pretty well (as fortress mentioned though, he's pretty short), does dwell on the ball a little too much at times which is an issue.As far as Marino goes, I haven't seen anything in the NPL games I've been to that suggest he's any better than Dekker, don't think Marino will still be at the club in 12 months. Edited July 17, 2015 by Embee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I never use the Walkerists line for youth players that actually deserve a place in the side...There is a big difference between the Meilings and Champmans compared to the Marino and Goochs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 A large portion of our fan base still don't understand just how good Melling is. There's probably only three or four players in the whole NYL per season that are close to that level.As perthheart said, the best will rise to the top on their own without needing the fans to campaign for them to be given a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I never use the Walkerists line for youth players that actually deserve a place in the side...There is a big difference between the Meilings and Champmans compared to the Marino and Goochs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 A large portion of our fan base still don't understand just how good Melling is. There's probably only three or four players in the whole NYL per season that are close to that level.As perthheart said, the best will rise to the top on their own without needing the fans to campaign for them to be given a start.well I suggested Melling was a future Socceroo on here and the responses suggested people thought I was joking, so clearly not everyone rates him like I do.i like the term "walkerist" that cadete has termed, though to be clear its in regards to Zac. It's not anti-youth but it is anti unrealistic expectations of kids that show a glimpse of talent.Marino has an opportunity many kids would die for. Needs to grasp it with both hands or he'll be in Melburnians with Mate Duga next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 If Melling can learn to not lose the ball so much he will be much better and will be replacing paartalu by seasons end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 A large portion of our fan base still don't understand just how good Melling is. There's probably only three or four players in the whole NYL per season that are close to that level.As perthheart said, the best will rise to the top on their own without needing the fans to campaign for them to be given a start.I'm not entirely sure that is the case. I always felt that it was better to dump the non-performing senior player and bring someone, anyone rather than keep with the losing team. Ultimately Retre displaced Hoffman as RB but geez that took a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 in terms of Hoffman, i find the transfer rather bitter sweet.bitter because after all the time, effort and chances, Hoffman at least finally seemed somewhat serviceable as a backup full back. wouldn't have ever been a star, but looked like one of those players who would rack up appearances since he was better than the vast majority in the state league but not quite good enough to ever be a regular starter in the A League. to see him go makes me wonder what the fuck the club was doing by investing so much to just let it go after a few defensive signings two seasons on from making Hoffman a defender (he was a fucking forward to start with FFS)it's a rather sweet though too because there is good reason he copped the flack on the forums. enough said.so yeah, feel like a little bit of me has died club wise, but ultimately happy to see Hoffman moving on to bigger and better things for both parties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 With the Hoff out of favour ATM, will we get to see more of this? Gotta luv the way he comes off the bench circa v Reds, Feb 2015 Thanks for the memories Hoff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Would like to wish The Hoff all the best. The guy always gave 100% on the ground and by all reports at training. I gathrr he actually did have talent but perhaps lacked the self belief. Anyway for whatever reason his performances across the field put him in the journeyman category.good luck at the jets Hoff. Hope you get the game time you are chasing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'm not entirely sure that is the case. I always felt that it was better to dump the non-performing senior player and bring someone, anyone rather than keep with the losing team. Ultimately Retre displaced Hoffman as RB but geez that took a while.Ross Archibald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Phil's decent, he's got good technique and reads the game pretty well (as fortress mentioned though, he's pretty short), does dwell on the ball a little too much at times which is an issue.As far as Marino goes, I haven't seen anything in the NPL games I've been to that suggest he's any better than Dekker, don't think Marino will still be at the club in 12 months.I posted about Phil not that long ago, the fact he remained in the youth team squad for so long is a pretty bad sign. But on the other hand, Macedonia have been flying him halfway across the globe to play for the u21s, and I can't see them doing that if they didn't see something in him. By all accounts switching to midfield was the turning point in his career, he really didn't seem to have the attacking edge needed to be a decent modern fullback.But TBH I would have tipped him getting released rather than playing against Man City, seems a bit strange especially with all our midfield talent. Is he even still eligible for NYL? Just turned 20 a couple months back, not too bad I actually thought he would have been closer to 21, but it's easy to forget he started playing for the youth team at a quite young age.Surely if he is still around it's because he is going to be in the senior squad? Only two other explanations are he is being 'trialled' for the senior team (which seems unlikely given the coaching staff should have a pretty good idea about him by now), or he is being kept on as he is a good captain and leader of the youth team (kind of important now that the youth play in the NPL as well).Side note, I don't see height as being an issue in his position, and it's previously been commented that he isn't the fastest player either but again as a DM it isn't a priority, back when he was a fullbnack it would have been a bigger issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlibub Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 If Melling can learn to not lose the ball so much he will be much better and will be replacing paartalu by seasons end. Your dreaming. Melling is a future gun no doubt however Paartalu's experience and presence in the midfield is invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Hoffman scored a nice header for Jets today which was not offsite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Watched the game, he played well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 fuck yeah hoffy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 couple guys in north end starting the hoffy chant highlight of the night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 9 hours ago, Bannon said: fuck yeah hoffy Missed that header at the end on purpose because he still loves us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Captain. Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Jovan said: Captain. Legend. Didn't last to long.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 I feel sorry for him, it's his first red in his career and a very soft one at that.Definitely not even a foul ,the roar player milked for all he could get . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 Just now, johnno cpfc said: I feel sorry for him, it's his first red in his career and a very soft one at that.Definitely not even a foul ,the roar player milked for all he could get . Got a straight red in the FFA Cup game in Ballarat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted March 6, 2017 Report Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 minute ago, bt50 said: Got a straight red in the FFA Cup game in Ballarat. those were the days 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Fox basically labelled him “The John Travolta of the A League”. loving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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