Torn Asunder Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 surprisingly they didn't compare transfer values ... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Absolute garbage player and probably the most overrated play in the a-league. Should've been moved on but why we persist with this dud i don't know. Edited July 8, 2014 by kingofhearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 that's it. fuck villa, I don't want him at my club.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Interesting article by Iain Strachan that provides the stats on the 5 top goal scorers in the league last year (whilst talking about Berisha, better know as "the poverty marquee"). http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4021/a-league/2014/07/03/4930165/the-dossier-berisha-will-guarantee-victory-goals-and-red?ICID=SP You can see that Willo stacks up pretty well on most criteria, which I guess would surprise a few people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Poor passer, can't cross, not clinical in front of goal. Not the ideal attributes for a striker. Although he makes very good runs his final product is usually below par. If we're planning on him carrying the goalscoring burden once Villa leaves then we could be in a spot of bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I suspect that David Williams cops an unfair share of criticism in terms of his efficacy as a striker. I don't know how many times over the past four seasons we've watched Heart, collectively, come out of the blocks at a million miles an hour, squander chance after chance in the first 20 minutes, and then cough up the simplest of goals at the other end. How many times has the match report headline been along the lines "Profligate Heart rue missed chances"? If we look at the statistics (but let's not bother because it's history) I'd say plenty of our attacking players would look worse than Willo. It's something the whole squad has to improve on, just like our pretty awful performances in dead-ball situations, inability to cut out crosses into the 6-yard box, etc. etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I suspect that David Williams cops an unfair share of criticism in terms of his efficacy as a striker. I don't know how many times over the past four seasons we've watched Heart, collectively, come out of the blocks at a million miles an hour, squander chance after chance in the first 20 minutes, and then cough up the simplest of goals at the other end. How many times has the match report headline been along the lines "Profligate Heart rue missed chances"? If we look at the statistics (but let's not bother because it's history) I'd say plenty of our attacking players would look worse than Willo. It's something the whole squad has to improve on, just like our pretty awful performances in dead-ball situations, inability to cut out crosses into the 6-yard box, etc. etc. Criticisms Williams receives is IMO warranted. He is just too inconsistent to rely upon. His best we all agree is match winning, his worst is woeful. He for whatever reason can't produce consistent performances for any long periods. Last season he had that patch of 4 or 5 games were he could no wrong but the rest was really ordinary. Question remains is he a central striker, winger or a false nine. I don't think he knows. Can he be of value coming off the bench? Just too many questions. After this many games he's played for us we should know. His position and ultimately his carreer could be determined this season, not sure he can handle the pressure and expectations. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredinho69 Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 (edited) Wouldn't mind Williams be striker and Villa be our left winger in our usual 4-3-3 system. Villa has been playing on the wing the last few years at club level and even for Spain. Destroyed Mcgowan in our group match against Spain and set up Torres for a few chances. Would rather him out wide and cutting in and playing Williams through then Williams on the wing and playing average balls to Villa. Edited July 8, 2014 by Fredinho69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wouldn't mind Williams be striker and Villa be our left winger in our usual 4-3-3 system. Villa has been playing on the wing the last few years at club level and even for Spain. Destroyed Mcgowan in our group match against Spain and set up Torres for a few chances. Would rather him out wide and cutting in and playing Williams through then Williams on the wing and playing average balls to Villa. Why does williams have to start? Duff, Villa and Duga in a front 3 is what I would go with. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'm very interested to see all of our players improve with the training standard and facilities lifted. In particular David Williams. I think he has always had all the tools to be a great a league player, just was a blank canvas in a lot of areas. Is he too old to improve? I don't think so. If he can improve technically and his shot accuracy, he could be anything still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 8, 2014 Report Share Posted July 8, 2014 Williams is a great bench player to put on to chase a goal - Which is perfect for us because that is role he be playing most of the time for MCFC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I know I started this thread and it was named 'Sack David Williams Thread', however I think we're all being pretty damn fussy. He scored 12 goals last year, I am sure that strikers from other clubs squandered chances too, probably more, hence why he scored more goals than most of them. It's the A-League FFS, I reckon we have a reasonable striker in Willo, not a world beater but good for our league as an Australian player. He didn't even play half the season as our main stiker because Mifsud had that spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I know I started this thread and it was named 'Sack David Williams Thread', however I think we're all being pretty damn fussy. He scored 12 goals last year, I am sure that strikers from other clubs squandered chances too, probably more, hence why he scored more goals than most of them. It's the A-League FFS, I reckon we have a reasonable striker in Willo, not a world beater but good for our league as an Australian player. He didn't even play half the season as our main stiker because Mifsud had that spot. Was he not our Aussie marquee for 3 seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-aram92 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Wouldn't mind Williams be striker and Villa be our left winger in our usual 4-3-3 system. Villa has been playing on the wing the last few years at club level and even for Spain. Destroyed Mcgowan in our group match against Spain and set up Torres for a few chances. Would rather him out wide and cutting in and playing Williams through then Williams on the wing and playing average balls to Villa. Why does williams have to start? Duff, Villa and Duga in a front 3 is what I would go with. I'm hoping and am confident that Duga lifts his game from last year too. He squandered a lot of chances in front of goal just like Williams so he also needs to improve IMO. I'm sure he probably started last year behind the rest due to his rehab from the prior season's injury and then his confidence would have no doubt been down after a few poor games, but this year with a full preseason, I expect both Williams and Duga to excel. And I know this isn't the right thread but since we're talking about wingers, I'm so wrapped to have Duff mainly because it means we don't have to see Ramsey ever in the starting XI! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I know I started this thread and it was named 'Sack David Williams Thread', however I think we're all being pretty damn fussy. He scored 12 goals last year, I am sure that strikers from other clubs squandered chances too, probably more, hence why he scored more goals than most of them. It's the A-League FFS, I reckon we have a reasonable striker in Willo, not a world beater but good for our league as an Australian player. He didn't even play half the season as our main stiker because Mifsud had that spot. Was he not our Aussie marquee for 3 seasons? Not sure why so many of you are confused by this. He was our Marquee to free up cap space, not because he was on massive wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I know I started this thread and it was named 'Sack David Williams Thread', however I think we're all being pretty damn fussy. He scored 12 goals last year, I am sure that strikers from other clubs squandered chances too, probably more, hence why he scored more goals than most of them. It's the A-League FFS, I reckon we have a reasonable striker in Willo, not a world beater but good for our league as an Australian player. He didn't even play half the season as our main stiker because Mifsud had that spot. Was he not our Aussie marquee for 3 seasons? Dunno? Was he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Wouldn't mind Williams be striker and Villa be our left winger in our usual 4-3-3 system. Villa has been playing on the wing the last few years at club level and even for Spain. Destroyed Mcgowan in our group match against Spain and set up Torres for a few chances. Would rather him out wide and cutting in and playing Williams through then Williams on the wing and playing average balls to Villa. Why does williams have to start? Duff, Villa and Duga in a front 3 is what I would go with. I'm hoping and am confident that Duga lifts his game from last year too. He squandered a lot of chances in front of goal just like Williams so he also needs to improve IMO. I'm sure he probably started last year behind the rest due to his rehab from the prior season's injury and then his confidence would have no doubt been down after a few poor games, but this year with a full preseason, I expect both Williams and Duga to excel. And I know this isn't the right thread but since we're talking about wingers, I'm so wrapped to have Duff mainly because it means we don't have to see Ramsey ever in the starting XI! Mate was coming good at the end of the Season... PPL need to remember that the kind of injury he had means that it takes well over a year for his body to start responding they way it did before he injured. I think we will see a Season Two like Mate when things kick of this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-aram92 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Wouldn't mind Williams be striker and Villa be our left winger in our usual 4-3-3 system. Villa has been playing on the wing the last few years at club level and even for Spain. Destroyed Mcgowan in our group match against Spain and set up Torres for a few chances. Would rather him out wide and cutting in and playing Williams through then Williams on the wing and playing average balls to Villa. Why does williams have to start? Duff, Villa and Duga in a front 3 is what I would go with. I'm hoping and am confident that Duga lifts his game from last year too. He squandered a lot of chances in front of goal just like Williams so he also needs to improve IMO. I'm sure he probably started last year behind the rest due to his rehab from the prior season's injury and then his confidence would have no doubt been down after a few poor games, but this year with a full preseason, I expect both Williams and Duga to excel. And I know this isn't the right thread but since we're talking about wingers, I'm so wrapped to have Duff mainly because it means we don't have to see Ramsey ever in the starting XI! Mate was coming good at the end of the Season... PPL need to remember that the kind of injury he had means that it takes well over a year for his body to start responding they way it did before he injured. I think we will see a Season Two like Mate when things kick of this year. Yeah I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 If Duff is fit for the start of the season, and Villa is here from round 1, you'd assume the front 3 will be: Duff - Villa - Dugandzic Going by his interview, I think he's expecting himself to be used off the bench, where most of us would agree he's most effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I know I started this thread and it was named 'Sack David Williams Thread', however I think we're all being pretty damn fussy. He scored 12 goals last year, I am sure that strikers from other clubs squandered chances too, probably more, hence why he scored more goals than most of them. It's the A-League FFS, I reckon we have a reasonable striker in Willo, not a world beater but good for our league as an Australian player. He didn't even play half the season as our main stiker because Mifsud had that spot. Was he not our Aussie marquee for 3 seasons? Not sure why so many of you are confused by this. He was our Marquee to free up cap space, not because he was on massive wages. Regardless, he was our highest paid player. Huge waste of money IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dreas Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 All i want is for him to do what he did against sydney! I dont care if his only on for 5 minutes. Thats all he has to do. I'm a Youtube that shit right now. I'm at work and i cant copy the video on this comment coz they block youtube but im sure you can all do it yourselfs. #citybitchez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-aram92 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 It just couldn't have been more perfect. Not only did Garcia turn the ball over in the middle, but Williams turned him again in the box. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I know I started this thread and it was named 'Sack David Williams Thread', however I think we're all being pretty damn fussy. He scored 12 goals last year, I am sure that strikers from other clubs squandered chances too, probably more, hence why he scored more goals than most of them. It's the A-League FFS, I reckon we have a reasonable striker in Willo, not a world beater but good for our league as an Australian player. He didn't even play half the season as our main stiker because Mifsud had that spot. Was he not our Aussie marquee for 3 seasons? Not sure why so many of you are confused by this. He was our Marquee to free up cap space, not because he was on massive wages. Regardless, he was our highest paid player. Huge waste of money IMO. Fair enough. Not sure what other Australian player on our list was deserving of more $$$ though. Kisnorbo maybe, Dugandzic when in Season 2 form? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 I know I started this thread and it was named 'Sack David Williams Thread', however I think we're all being pretty damn fussy. He scored 12 goals last year, I am sure that strikers from other clubs squandered chances too, probably more, hence why he scored more goals than most of them. It's the A-League FFS, I reckon we have a reasonable striker in Willo, not a world beater but good for our league as an Australian player. He didn't even play half the season as our main stiker because Mifsud had that spot. Was he not our Aussie marquee for 3 seasons? Not sure why so many of you are confused by this. He was our Marquee to free up cap space, not because he was on massive wages. Regardless, he was our highest paid player. Huge waste of money IMO. Fair enough. Not sure what other Australian player on our list was deserving of more $$$ though. Kisnorbo maybe, Dugandzic when in Season 2 form? Yeah, agree. He was named our POTY, after all, so he may not have justified whatever his salary was (maybe he did), but others would have probably justified it less. He's not exactly at the level you'd want for your Australian marquee (which is probably part of the reason we finished bottom) and he's not perfect, but at the end of the day, you give that tag to your highest paid Australian. Kewell was on the minimum, so not sure who else was serious competition...Kisnorbo? At the end of the day, it was a one-year (I assume) anomaly and he would be very long odds to ever be our Australian marquee again, for the rest of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 It just couldn't have been more perfect. Not only did Garcia turn the ball over in the middle, but Williams turned him again in the box. So glad I was at the game, that Basheer commentary is absolutely dreadful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-aram92 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 It just couldn't have been more perfect. Not only did Garcia turn the ball over in the middle, but Williams turned him again in the box. So glad I was at the game, that Basheer commentary is absolutely dreadful He is awful! so boring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 It just couldn't have been more perfect. Not only did Garcia turn the ball over in the middle, but Williams turned him again in the box. So glad I was at the game, that Basheer commentary is absolutely dreadful He is awful! so boring! Still evokes happiness from within, how's behich though slides studs first into team mates lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-aram92 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 (edited) Williams braces himself when he sees the onslaught coming! Edited July 9, 2014 by K-aram92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 What if Willo reads the forum and is shit on purpose just to fuck with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Made the All Star team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Willo's getting a bit of a stomach on him again. Seems to put on weight fairly easily if not training. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 is Willo, Hatem Ben Arfa in disguise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 or maybe he is just on the anderson diet or fat ronaldo diet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2134205-newcastles-hatem-ben-arfa-fined-for-showing-up-to-training-overweight?utm_source=outbrain.com&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=global-swagger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Willo's getting a bit of a stomach on him again. Seems to put on weight fairly easily if not training. Noticed this as well. I presume we have him in a "fat club" programme to get his weight down, but even so its a unprofessional to turn up at pre-season training in that state. I'd hope he was fined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 The photograph from the match against Bolton...looks like Massimo has put on some weight too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriente Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 guys it's the looser fit on the new kit + the thinner stripes making everyone seem wider. optical illusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 Also it's clear from the above that Williams always needed someone following him around, pushing his stomach back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted July 26, 2014 Report Share Posted July 26, 2014 I reckon he's just got a very very strong core that only gets stronger during the off season thus creating a more protruding look due to the extra core muscle mass. I couldn't care less what shape he looks in, same thing happens every season and he still runs faster than anyone and longer than most I'd wager 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted August 1, 2014 Report Share Posted August 1, 2014 http://mobile.news.com.au/sport/football/aleague-all-star-david-williams-has-unfinished-business-with-juventus-gianluigi-buffon/story-fndkzvnd-1227010613817 Interesting story of how Williams nearly put one past gigi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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