strider Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 FYI its Kewell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 13 minutes ago, strider said: FYI its Kewell After your recent prediction/insider info on Brandan I'm really concerned about this one on many levels. How legit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 51 minutes ago, strider said: FYI its Kewell This better not be real Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 kewell talking up melbourne heart and how special it was, definitely putting himself out there not sure if he said that on shoot out or just in a fox interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 He probably got the idea from here:Â http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/harry-kewell-opens-up-about-links-to-melbourne-city-coaching-job/news-story/a3a296a13d0c9c8aac041eba3ede941e Not even one year older than Cahill. Risks being a disaster in terms of squad discipline. Do not like at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Assistant to Hiddink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, jw1739 said: He probably got the idea from here:Â http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/harry-kewell-opens-up-about-links-to-melbourne-city-coaching-job/news-story/a3a296a13d0c9c8aac041eba3ede941e Not even one year older than Cahill. Risks being a disaster in terms of squad discipline. Do not like at all. It would end in nothing but disaster, especially with Cahill still at the club.. Will be Aloisi 2.0 Â What is HK's record with Watford youth anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Not sure if he'd be the first bloke I'd pick, but i wouldnt be against it. Plenty of good reports about his coaching ability from around the traps. Obvious concerns is that he'd be an Aloisi 2.0, although I'm honestly not sure that experience means a lot if you have the right person when it comes to managing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 25 minutes ago, haz said: It would end in nothing but disaster, especially with Cahill still at the club.. Will be Aloisi 2.0 What is HK's record with Watford youth anyway? Don't know about HK's overall record, but this season they are bottom (10th) of the Professional Development League (South) with a 6-3-12 record, 31 GF, 53 GA, for 21 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Just now, jw1739 said: Don't know about HK's overall record, but this season they are bottom (10th) of the Professional Development League (South) with a 6-3-12 record, 31 GF, 53 GA, for 21 points. Doesn't sound amazing. I think we are all scarred from the Aloisi experience, although there are a number of younger coaches going around who are doing well. But I would feel mostly let down if CFG go for HK as the "Well known" "Media recognizable face" option, it feels all too familiar........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Bloody over reaction here is crazy. I for one would be up for having Kewell. You all want an experienced manager or Gombau for example, but what experience as a senior manager has he had or Amor had when he took Adelaide to win it all last season. Popa has taken the wanderers to 3 grand finals and won them a champions league with no experience as a manager. You dont always need experience. You need hunger to succeed and football knowledge and if anyone has heard Harry speak about coaching, he sounds obsessed with it. Plus all this talk about the egos in the dressing room being an issue. This bloke has achieved in football what most in our squad could only dream of and thats including Tim.  Plus Tim is a bloody professional. Whos to say that having Tim at the club who he's played along side wont help him in the dressing room. I say fuckin bring it on!!!! btw...  No Gombau  http://outside90.com/josep-gombau-rules-out-taking-melbourne-city-job-506/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 23 minutes ago, [LIBBA] said: Bloody over reaction here is crazy. I for one would be up for having Kewell. You all want an experienced manager or Gombau for example, but what experience as a senior manager has he had or Amor had when he took Adelaide to win it all last season. Popa has taken the wanderers to 3 grand finals and won them a champions league with no experience as a manager. You dont always need experience. You need hunger to succeed and football knowledge and if anyone has heard Harry speak about coaching, he sounds obsessed with it. Plus all this talk about the egos in the dressing room being an issue. This bloke has achieved in football what most in our squad could only dream of and thats including Tim.  Plus Tim is a bloody professional. Whos to say that having Tim at the club who he's played along side wont help him in the dressing room. I say fuckin bring it on!!!! btw...  No Gombau  http://outside90.com/josep-gombau-rules-out-taking-melbourne-city-job-506/ You could have copied and pasted a post like this when Aloisi was appointed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 hours ago, strider said: FYI its Kewell Does he have a shit sibling who can coach? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) Kewell coach with Kisnorbo as assistant. Two former club captains coaching Edited March 17, 2017 by GreenSeater 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 56 minutes ago, [LIBBA] said: Bloody over reaction here is crazy. I for one would be up for having Kewell. You all want an experienced manager or Gombau for example, but what experience as a senior manager has he had or Amor had when he took Adelaide to win it all last season. Popa has taken the wanderers to 3 grand finals and won them a champions league with no experience as a manager. You dont always need experience. You need hunger to succeed and football knowledge and if anyone has heard Harry speak about coaching, he sounds obsessed with it. Plus all this talk about the egos in the dressing room being an issue. This bloke has achieved in football what most in our squad could only dream of and thats including Tim.  Plus Tim is a bloody professional. Whos to say that having Tim at the club who he's played along side wont help him in the dressing room. I say fuckin bring it on!!!! btw...  No Gombau  http://outside90.com/josep-gombau-rules-out-taking-melbourne-city-job-506/ I Dont think it's an over reaction. It's just stating the obvious reluctance of signing an untried coach. Yes heaps of successful coaches have a one point been untried and have had stellar careers. I just feel that this appointment cannot afford to fail and no unecessary risks should be taken. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Harry and Timmy as a coaching duo please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jovan said: I Dont think it's an over reaction. It's just stating the obvious reluctance of signing an untried coach. Yes heaps of successful coaches have a one point been untried and have had stellar careers. I just feel that this appointment cannot afford to fail and no unecessary risks should be taken. Every appointment has risk. Many would rate Pep as a coach Man city haven't set the world on fire...yet. Mourinho, United 6th. Klopp..... Granted competitive league blah blah blah. I agree with you that the decision is a large one but just taking out first time coaches given we are at the arse end of the world seems like it would take out plenty of capable football coaches in the making. Unfortunately the nature of the business is you dont know how someone will go until they are in the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 if we were still heart maybe, now we must be getting coaching staff, marquees and facilities that other clubs can only dream of 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 We do know what we need. We have the infrastructure and support in place to make teams successful, the NYL team has won 2 championships in 3 seasons and the W-League team's success is compelling. The mens team needs someone with very good man management skills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Hmmmm............... my head says no (tried and true please) but my heart says do it!!! I think his football mind combined with his hunger to succeed plus a dash of IM THE FUCKING BOSS (of which we have never had) and a bit of ego to boot would be what this club needs. I do fear however that he might over coach and players might 2nd guess themselves every now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 http://www.theaustralian.com.au/video/id-thbzVkYTE6bP9AdDNkmUn1gCOzNYfqz6/Kewell-declares-City-interest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Can we just get a manager scarier and older than my wog dad? That's all we fucking need aye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Surely SURELY we have learnt from the Aloisi debarcle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 3 hours ago, Dylan said: Surely SURELY we have learnt from the Aloisi debarcle And the JvS debacle. JvS had very little experience at club level before Heart, and didn't show anything special at FC Twente or Guadalajara. I think everyone has that nagging doubt that we may not have learnt. Watching this year and the most expensive squad in A-League history not even putting up a fight in the Premiership, I still hope that we will have the sense to appoint someone who can instill into our squad the discipline and the will to grind out results. For all I know Harry K. might be just the person, but I'd be more comfortable with someone who has already demonstrated that at A-League level or above. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) 37 minutes ago, jw1739 said: And the JvS debacle. JvS had very little experience at club level before Heart, and didn't show anything special at FC Twente or Guadalajara. I think everyone has that nagging doubt that we may not have learnt. Watching this year and the most expensive squad in A-League history not even putting up a fight in the Premiership, I still hope that we will have the sense to appoint someone who can instill into our squad the discipline and the will to grind out results. For all I know Harry K. might be just the person, but I'd be more comfortable with someone who has already demonstrated that at A-League level or above. I have no issue with HK being apart of the coaching group of the club but we need an experienced head at the top. If they want a 'marquee coach' then go and get Hiddink and have HK as an assistant. Then if they wanted they could market that to a broader public.  HK would be mad to take a senior position now given how little experience he has. Edited March 17, 2017 by Dylan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 15/03/2017 at 6:19 PM, Andrew Edmonds said: Ante Milicic (if that's how you spell his name), said anything is possible when asked about taking our manager position. Maybe he's been approached... hasn't denied it! Would be the foremost Australian candidate I would have thought. Has now got an impressive CV for an assistant and is surely ready for a senior role. PS when will people learn that there is no correlation between good players and good managers? The roles are very different and a retired player, no matter how great, needs to learn his craft. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Militic for me the guy has all the right credentials and has experience, o k, as an assistant but for me he will do a great job. There, that's my two-pennath . Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Surely with our global network of scouts we can come up with a better candidate then Harry kewel ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 TBH, if they say Valkanis was our next head coach, I wouldn't mind, I think he did well tonight and over the last two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, moops said: TBH, if they say Valkanis was our next head coach, I wouldn't mind, I think he did well tonight and over the last two weeks. It's Newcastle mate. Calm down 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, moops said: TBH, if they say Valkanis was our next head coach, I wouldn't mind, I think he did well tonight and over the last two weeks. I would. Can't say i'm a big fan of his tactic of starting our best performing player on the bench. We can do much better Edited March 18, 2017 by kingofhearts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Timmy went off and we played sexy football!! Cheers for your header. I know we have many young members here but really there is only one coach who plays sexy football! Just google "Ruud Gullit sexy football"......and he is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 I heard Sven Goran Eriksson is in the mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 20 hours ago, KSK_47 said: It's Newcastle mate. Calm down Calm as a kipper swimming free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted March 20, 2017 Report Share Posted March 20, 2017 On 3/17/2017 at 6:22 PM, Jovan said: I Dont think it's an over reaction. It's just stating the obvious reluctance of signing an untried coach. Yes heaps of successful coaches have a one point been untried and have had stellar careers. I just feel that this appointment cannot afford to fail and no unecessary risks should be taken. Totally agree with you, but who do we honestly think the CFG will bring over? Most likely a coach we haven't heard about with an average record. If anyone is expecting a big name, i wouldn't be holding your breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 56 minutes ago, [LIBBA] said: Totally agree with you, but who do we honestly think the CFG will bring over? Most likely a coach we haven't heard about with an average record. If anyone is expecting a big name, i wouldn't be holding your breath. I am hoping for a "Marquee Coach" that is someone that has coached/managed at the highest level. But we will probably get a no name guy and if that is the case it I would prefer someone from within CFG  (Manchester mainly). Simon Davies or Jason Wilcox perhaps. Who knows a couple more wins and grand final appearance could make a Valkanis appointment a real option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Jovan said: I am hoping for a "Marquee Coach" that is someone that has coached/managed at the highest level. But we will probably get a no name guy and if that is the case it I would prefer someone from within CFG  (Manchester mainly). Simon Davies or Jason Wilcox perhaps. Who knows a couple more wins and grand final appearance could make a Valkanis appointment a real option. He gets us there and i'm happy to keep Valkanis to be honest, but i think that the only way he stays is if we win it. GF away to Sydney is going to happen. Already booked my leave for it hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 I wouldn't be comfortable with Kewell walking straight in to the top job. After serving a decent apprenticeship, perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 So with a new manager pending, and a possible rethink of our way of playing, the question is how long would be acceptable for the club to succeed? Do we expect success in the first season or would it be wiser to allow a new manager 2 or 3 years to undo the JVS culture and bring long term league dominance? What is the expectation of the fans and what would we consider real success?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Ange changed the Roar culture in less than a season, Arnold took a little longer at the surfs but that was complicated by poor recruiting in his first season. I'd expect tp see a big change next season, in particular around recruiting balance and the teams ability to manage the pressure that comes with success. i'd also look for greater psychological residence when we fall behind in a game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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