malloy Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Brattan isn't a visa player thoughwhy does he need to be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 why does he need to be?It should be a replacement visa but no way we're knocking back bratton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 why does he need to be?Probably because if we signed Brattan he'd have to fit into the cap unless we tried to sign 2 Australian marquees. We aren't Sydney FC or Visitors so they may not like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Probably because if we signed Brattan he'd have to fit into the cap unless we tried to sign 2 Australian marquees. We aren't Sydney FC or Visitors so they may not like itDon't the marquee rules allow for any type of marquee (2 visa, 2 aus or 1 of each)?It should be a replacement visa but no way we're knocking back bratton.why does it need to be a visa player? I would much rather get the players to achieve success as opposed to using our quotas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm struggling to follow this. CFG taking a player to Manchester for an extended trial, then using Nottingham Forest or another Championship club (but certainly not a club in the City stable) to see whether an Australian player cuts the mustard well enough to be a player for Melbourne City? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm struggling to follow this. CFG taking a player to Manchester for an extended trial, then using Nottingham Forest or another Championship club (but certainly not a club in the City stable) to see whether an Australian player cuts the mustard well enough to be a player for Melbourne City?it's all very strange. I'm also confused as hell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Don't the marquee rules allow for any type of marquee (2 visa, 2 aus or 1 of each)?why does it need to be a visa player? I would much rather get the players to achieve success as opposed to using our quotas.Not sure, Murph will knowWould we really want Brattan if we could cast the net wider in the international market though and also have a bigger budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Not sure, Murph will knowWould we really want Brattan if we could cast the net wider in the international market though and also have a bigger budget? If they have assessed that Brattan is what the team requires then I am happy to accept it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'm struggling to follow this. CFG taking a player to Manchester for an extended trial, then using Nottingham Forest or another Championship club (but certainly not a club in the City stable) to see whether an Australian player cuts the mustard well enough to be a player for Melbourne City?He's obviously good enough to play for us. If this is true it seems more like we're just biding our time until we can loan him or use him as a guest player in the back end of the season (+finals?). Also gives Brattan a chance to impress over in England if he does well. I don't think there's any "trial" for Manchester going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I can't imagine that Brattan would choose to come back here when he has a chance to impress in the Championship. If he does well then Forest or whoever will want to keep him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Probably because if we signed Brattan he'd have to fit into the cap unless we tried to sign 2 Australian marquees. We aren't Sydney FC or Visitors so they may not like itThey changed the marquee rule before the start of the season to allow both marquees to be either visa or Australian.http://www.espnfc.com/australian-a-league/story/2557779/a-league-relaxes-salary-cap-rules-to-allow-for-more-marqueesI like Brattan, but is he really worthy of Koren's marquee spot? Sure Koren has been poor, but if we're going to replace him why not go for somebody big? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 They changed the marquee rule before the start of the season to allow both marquees to be either visa or Australian.http://www.espnfc.com/australian-a-league/story/2557779/a-league-relaxes-salary-cap-rules-to-allow-for-more-marqueesI like Brattan, but is he really worthy of Koren's marquee spot? Sure Koren has been poor, but if we're going to replace him why not go for somebody big?Answer is pay out Paartalu instead and you have a direct replacement who can actually move, pass and shoot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidrildid6 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Sounds to me like Brattan's agent is spreading rumours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) He's obviously good enough to play for us. If this is true it seems more like we're just biding our time until we can loan him or use him as a guest player in the back end of the season (+finals?). Also gives Brattan a chance to impress over in England if he does well. I don't think there's any "trial" for Manchester going on.It's a complicated situation. One important point to remember though is that Brattan became a free agent, and thereafter couldn't really negotiate from a position of strength. I reckon Brattan thought he'd end up at a good European club quickly, like at a Championship club, and such a obviously hasn't materialised (at least since he left Brisbane Roar 2 months ago).I reckon the best Brattan can do ATM is be a train-on at the Man City academy, and longer term it looks like the best Brattan can do is become a "CFG player" (rather than a Man City player). If Brattan signs for Man City he'll be immediately loaned out, almost certainly to a Championship club, for the short term. I'm sure if he was good enough and impressed Man City would keep him, but there's zero percent chance of that happening so I reckon the end game will be CFG engineering a move for Luke Brattan to Melbourne City. Most likely IMO as a guest player in January for 14 games, or possibly after the 2015/16 season is finished and Melbourne City have freed up the space to sign him. Would be interested to hear the Man City perspective on the Brattan rumours, but I also don't think there is any real trial going on, and think ultimately CFG will try and move Brattan to Melbourne City, maybe in a convoluted way similar to Frank Lampard where the player doesn't technically break his promise of playing for a "rival" club. Edited October 19, 2015 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 brattan > korennext! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Would love to see during January or the off-season a straight swap of Paartalu for Kantarovski.He's been on the verge of transferring to Bayer Munich for the past 6 years, surely we have no chance. Edited October 19, 2015 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I still don't get the Brattan thing. Can't believe Manchester City are running a charity train-on facility there. They can pretty much get any player they want from anywhere at any time, so why they are bothering with Brattan I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I still don't get the Brattan thing. Can't believe Manchester City are running a charity train-on facility there. They can pretty much get any player they want from anywhere at any time, so why they are bothering with Brattan I don't know.It's most likely its some way to get him here cheaply inside the salary cap at some stage. How exactly Í don't think anyone knows but it will be cap manipulation of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyd89 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Or maybe a move to NYCFC beckons after Pirlo is finished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I don't think Pirlo or Lampard are needed tbh, realistically with where our squad is at we'd most benefit with Villa back here again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Maybe he will come to us under a different approach to the guest player. Don't bring in a big name who disrupts the side when he is here and disrupts it when he leaves but instead bring in a good a-league standard player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Don't the marquee rules allow for any type of marquee (2 visa, 2 aus or 1 of each)?why does it need to be a visa player? I would much rather get the players to achieve success as opposed to using our quotas.Why not have bratton AND a new visa player (if possible?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Why not have bratton AND a new visa player (if possible?)why not indeed? But the Visa player doesn't have to be the replacement for Koren and either signing should be because it will help the team win silverware and not because we have a spare visa spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) They're not going to rush in to anything this season IMO.All of Chapman, Kisnorbo, Zullo, Hughes(v), Clisby, Mauk, Koren(v,m), Melling, Retre, Williams, Brown, Marino and Dekker are out of contract at the end of this season.Clearly some of these are going to be offered new contracts (I'd guess Chapman, Mauk, Melling, Retre, and Dekker, possibly Marino) but IMO Kisnorbo, Zullo, Hughes, Koren, Williams and Brown are likely to say goodbye. Edited October 20, 2015 by jw1739 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 An interview last week with Zullo suggests that he may actually sign on after this season. Agree with the other outs though JW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 An interview last week with Zullo suggests that he may actually sign on after this season. Agree with the other outs though JWProbably has now accepted A-League is his level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Zullo needs to prove that he can remain fit. I am fed up with the club having so many injuries and Zullo has yet to play a full 90 minutes. Of a season of 27 matches I would expect him to miss no more than 270 minutes due to injury otherwise, thanks for coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Zullo needs to prove that he can remain fit. I am fed up with the club having so many injuries and Zullo has yet to play a full 90 minutes. Of a season of 27 matches I would expect him to miss no more than 270 minutes due to injury otherwise, thanks for coming.Agree wholeheartedly. At this juncture he's just another (non-visa) Germano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 Zullo needs to prove that he can remain fit. I am fed up with the club having so many injuries and Zullo has yet to play a full 90 minutes. Of a season of 27 matches I would expect him to miss no more than 270 minutes due to injury otherwise, thanks for coming.Why do you think wounded species come to us? Because of our facilities. Once fully fit they will f-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 20, 2015 Report Share Posted October 20, 2015 We have half a squad of Germanos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defibrillator Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 We have half a squad of GermanosOr a full squad of half-Germanos. Half a Germano is a Germ. The injury bug or the mediocrity bug - take your pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted October 21, 2015 Report Share Posted October 21, 2015 Come here for useful transfer rumours and left scratching my head as to what I just read. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Frank Lampard has been invited to train with Manchester City... don't know what this means as a chance of him having a guest stint with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Frank Lampard has been invited to train with Manchester City... don't know what this means as a chance of him having a guest stint with us.Needs to do his calf first to be any chance of coming to us. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Frank Lampard has been invited to train with Manchester City... don't know what this means as a chance of him having a guest stint with us.Invited? You are joking of course? Everything I've read tells me that CFG says "Jump" and Lampard says "How high?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzema23 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Well that means he's on his way to us, no? Melbourne is kind of in the same direction as New York -> Manchester??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 A little birdy told me that a 26 year old Middle Eastern currently in the MLS is linked to Melbourne.He is an international. Marquee, perhaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 A little birdy told me that a 26 year old Middle Eastern currently in the MLS is linked to Melbourne.He is an international. Marquee, perhaps.Justin Meram / Iraq / Columbus Crew Winger Forward Stats wise hardly looks marquee quality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Justin Meram / Iraq / Columbus Crew Winger Forward Stats wise hardly looks marquee quality Would take my toilet plunger over Koren atm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Surely we could get rid of Koren in January and replace him with a guest player for the remaining games, then possibly sign that player up as marquee when the season ends.Manchester City buy/sign the player in the January window, then "loan" him to us as the guest player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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