jw1739 Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 because he has an Australian passport. That's my understanding of like for like, it has nothing to do with positions but is "like for like" in visa categories. I think the other rule is he can't be paid more than the injured player.I have, several times, searched for an up-to-date written statement of what the "injury replacement rule" for the A-League actually says, but have failed to find one. I'm beginning to wonder whether FFA makes up the "rule" as it goes along.Where is Murf with a definition? Come to that, where is Murf generally? - haven't seen a post from him for a while. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Red or Dead Posted September 24, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I have, several times, searched for an up-to-date written statement of what the "injury replacement rule" for the A-League actually says, but have failed to find one. I'm beginning to wonder whether FFA makes up the "rule" as it goes along.Where is Murf with a definition? Come to that, where is Murf generally? - haven't seen a post from him for a while.He's been writing his next post... 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 He's been writing his next post... Fucking Mint ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Guys murf is on annual leave from the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bt50 Posted September 24, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Guys murf is on annual leave from the forumWould the forum implode if it was revealed that Murfy1 and Strider were actually the same person? 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I think the other rule is he can't be paid more than the injured player.He can, but whatever he is paid over the injured player's salary counts towards the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 Would the forum implode if it was revealed that Murfy1 and Strider were actually the same person?what if ur really a re-badged hilux 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 what if ur really a re-badged hiluxI can vouch for bt50 I have the misfortune of knowing him irl. He is not a re-badge hilux. He may be a pig, a liar, an idiot, a re-badged hilux, but his is not a porn star 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted September 24, 2015 Report Share Posted September 24, 2015 I can vouch for bt50 I have the misfortune of knowing him irl. He is not a re-badge hilux. He may be a pig, a liar, an idiot, a re-badged hilux, but his is not a porn starTypical grammar challenged hipster. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiji19 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Any chance of Brattan signing for City and then coming to us on 14 game guest stint, after the completion of that he joins NYCFC who by then should be into pre-season mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Any chance of Brattan signing for City and then coming to us on 14 game guest stint, after the completion of that he joins NYCFC who by then should be into pre-season mode.Nah, the guest player spot is already being used on Pirlo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Nah, the guest player spot is already being used on Pirlo.also, pretty sure the FFA has to sign off on guest players and Brattan would not fit their criteria (which I'm not sure even exists in written format, but I think it's safe to say an ex-Roar player wouldn't be accepted). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Dan Garb reporting Brattan will most likely join us on loan, which wouldn't take the guest player spot... so who knows what will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffman Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Dan Garb reporting Brattan will most likely join us on loan, which wouldn't take the guest player spot... so who knows what will happen.Yeah I saw that too. God knows why man city would want to buy Brattan. I don't really see why we'd need him either but not complaining about extra depth which bypasses the salary cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Yeah I saw that too. God knows why man city would want to buy Brattan. I don't really see why we'd need him either but not complaining about extra depth which bypasses the salary cap.Can see their point... extra profit considering free transfer, and maybe if he does really well in reserves, he can be sold for a couple million to a lower epl team or something like that... not that they need the profit haha.I'm happy about it.. anything that can give us more depth and help our season I'm okay with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhitePride Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) Serves us right then after what happened (or didn't happen) with the botched Lampard loan deal. Where does he fit in our starting lineup? Surely he's good enough to be a starter, but can't see him being ahead of Mooy, Koren or Paartalu. Very handy player to add, that's for sure. Edited September 26, 2015 by RedAndWhitePride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidrildid6 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 How can we get him if our squad is full? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Edmonds Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 How can we get him if our squad is full?Honestly would have no idea... must be some loophole or something we're going to exploit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Honestly would have no idea... must be some loophole or something we're going to exploit..Be a real shame if Williams fell down some stairs and we needed an injury replacement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 We can't afford him or have space for him. So maybe someone is leaving or is injured? Otherwise it all sounds like horseshit to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 We arent full as far as i can see anyway.The loan is probably meaning we have something like minimum wage attributed to the cap. Unsure how that works now tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 I can't really see what Manchester City are up to with the rumoured signing of Luke Brattan. Unless they see him as a good player to lock up and then use within CFG on a loan and/or injury replacement basis in New York, Yokohama and Melbourne. At 25 I'd be surprised if they saw him as potential EPL material.No doubt all will be revealed in due course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 I have, several times, searched for an up-to-date written statement of what the "injury replacement rule" for the A-League actually says, but have failed to find one. I'm beginning to wonder whether FFA makes up the "rule" as it goes along.Where is Murf with a definition? Come to that, where is Murf generally? - haven't seen a post from him for a while.I recently moved and am yet to get my internet fully sorted out. It will be resolved pretty soon though, and definitely before the season starts. I'm pretty certain these are still the relevant rules that pertain to injury replacement players: REPLACEMENT PLAYER12.2 in the event that a Club removes a Player from its Player Roster in accordance with eitherClause 10 (Long-Term Injury) and/or Clause 11 (National Team) and wishes to appoint aReplacement Player, the Club must, subject to this clause 12, appoint a player from theNYL Roster to its Player Roster.12.3 A Club may, on the grounds that exceptional circumstances exist, apply to FFA forapproval to contract or loan a Replacement Player for a specified period in preference toan NYL Player.12.4 in determining whether exceptional circumstances apply, FFA will take into account suchfactors as:(a) the number, extent, type and expected duration of injuries the Club is experiencing;(b) the number and duration of unavailability of Players on the Club Roster as a result ofselection for a National Team;(c) the availability of appropriate replacements from the Club Roster;(d) the objective of introduction of the National Youth League to provide Clubs andPlayers with reserve and development options in the event of unavailability of theregular Club playing roster;(e) the extent to which the proposed remuneration payable to the Replacement Playerhas the propensity to place the Club in breach of its Maximum Player Payments'obligations [that is, salary cap obligations] ;and(f) any other factor considered by FFA to be relevant.Page 10 and 11 here: http://hosting2.sportingpulse.com/www.pfa.net.au/fileadmin/user_upload/_temp_/Variation_of_A-League_Collective_Bargaining_Agreement_2008-9_-_2012-3.pdf In theory, with injury replacements A-League club should do what we did with Hernan Espindola signing on as a replacement for James Brown, that is get a replacement from the NYL team. But most of the time A-League clubs sign injury replacement players that aren't from their NYL teams. Financially the players must be "like for like". But it's unclear how similar the players have to be (for example, can a Visa player replace an injured Australian player?). The media has even thought that the rules demand that players must be "like for like positionally" (see here: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/serbian-defender-nikola-petkovic-signs-for-entire-a-league-with-sydney-fc-after-ffa-snub/story-fnii0fg0-1226722752796). In short, the injury replacement rule is another A-League rule that's changed a lot from what it was originally meant to be. But the players must, broadly speaking, be "like for like", especially with regards to their salaries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 This Brattan to Manchester City news is very odd. It just doesn't seem to add up.I personally don't really rate him that highly, although he does have the odd great game. Consistency seems to be an issue for him.Cant see him coming to us but hey stranger things have happened. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 I can't really see what Manchester City are up to with the rumoured signing of Luke Brattan. Unless they see him as a good player to lock up and then use within CFG on a loan and/or injury replacement basis in New York, Yokohama and Melbourne. At 25 I'd be surprised if they saw him as potential EPL material.No doubt all will be revealed in due course.For the record, the A-League is the only league of the four CFG have an interest in which lets you sign an injury replacement player outside of the registered squad limits, so I can't see him being horse-traded around the CFG clubs. I'm not sure I can see any player agreeing to sign a contract so that the can just be an emergency signing for a few weeks in different places every now and then anyway, even with the draw of CFG.That said, I'm not sure what the logic of this signing is supposed to be, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 I think it might be as simple as a favour whereby they loan him to some other uk club and then at the end of a season sell him to them, so acting as a sort of intermediary. He was born in Hull so may have something to do with home grown status but I no nothing about that, so that could be wrong.I know Daniel garb said he will be loaned to us but I don't think he would know our squad status or things like that. He is a uk correspondent so would hardly need to know.Anyway after all of that I would absolutely love him here. He is much much better than Paartalu at the moment and would easily be able to play as a single dm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 We asked JVS at the family day yesterday about Brattan coming to us. He said he definitely likes him as a player but he won't be coming to Melbourne City for now because we don't have room in the salary cap. But he did say it might be an option in the future. Sounds like him signing for Man City is quite likely though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Lets just be happy that he is in the City group and he is a good A league standard player who will most likely play for us in the coming seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 lets also not forget he is quite stylish with his tattoos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 lets also not forget he is quite stylish with his tattoosMan players need to tone it down with the Tatts, makes them look like bloody criminals! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Man players need to tone it down with the Tatts, makes them look like bloody criminals!its a fashion statement sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) Man players need to tone it down with the Tatts, makes them look like bloody criminals!As long as they don't wear glasses as well it's fine, otherwise they're just hipsters. Edited September 28, 2015 by Embee 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 I think it might be as simple as a favour whereby they loan him to some other uk club and then at the end of a season sell him to them, so acting as a sort of intermediary. He was born in Hull so may have something to do with home grown status but I no nothing about that, so that could be wrong.In the UK, home grown status is about how long you played in an academy, not about your actual place of birth. Cesc Fabregas counts as home grown, for instance, despite very much being Spanish, because he joined Arsenal at 15. Brattan is now too old to ever be home grown English. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 As long as they don't wear glasses as well it's fine, otherwise they're just hipsters.So if Dennis Rodman had borrowed Horace Grant's glasses he would be one of the first modern Hipsters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 So if Dennis Rodman had borrowed Horace Grant's glasses he would be one of the first modern Hipsters?I'm counting this as cadete likening me to Dennis Rodman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 So if Dennis Rodman had borrowed Horace Grant's glasses he would be one of the first modern Hipsters?needs a beard then yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 So...what happened to the Luke Brattan transfer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 last i heard Bratten was training with Man City.He said other clubs had also shown interest, but he has signed for none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfc_10 Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 I'd say he will sign for Manchester City, until he can find a championship club to go to. Or they're just helping him train until he signs for a club as a free agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 We should go after a certain AM Who plays in turkey for our marquee spot for next season... Initials WS throw everything at. Him 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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