Mr MO Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 21 minutes ago, haz said: Lucky that most coaches can win with our resources, our past has proven that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 Interesting comment from Daniel Lévy on why he appointed Ange Postecoglou at Spurs "who understood our DNA, would play attacking football, that would give young players a chance, believe in the academy, would build a relationship with the fans and understand the resources that we have and don’t have as a club and be part of a team." Sounds exactly what we want from our coach, club and players 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 48 minutes ago, mjake1234 said: Interesting comment from Daniel Lévy on why he appointed Ange Postecoglou at Spurs "who understood our DNA, would play attacking football, that would give young players a chance, believe in the academy, would build a relationship with the fans and understand the resources that we have and don’t have as a club and be part of a team." Sounds exactly what we want from our coach, club and players Interesting that Munn is there as well. Forget what position, but senior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Interesting that Munn is there as well. Forget what position, but senior. Chief Football Officer - I would be very surprised if Munn was not a massive advocate for Ange in the process, but it's hard to tell if he would have had any capacity to work on that role (though reading between the lines, Munn had an absolutely torrid time trying to get out of the CFG, I imagine they really wanted to keep him and saw him as hugely valuable, quite different to how he was seen by a lot of people on this forum!) https://theathletic.com/4884888/2023/09/21/scott-munn-tottenham-football-officer/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tommykins said: Chief Football Officer - I would be very surprised if Munn was not a massive advocate for Ange in the process, but it's hard to tell if he would have had any capacity to work on that role (though reading between the lines, Munn had an absolutely torrid time trying to get out of the CFG, I imagine they really wanted to keep him and saw him as hugely valuable, quite different to how he was seen by a lot of people on this forum!) https://theathletic.com/4884888/2023/09/21/scott-munn-tottenham-football-officer/ Do you know what the problem getting out of CFG was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 4 hours ago, jw1739 said: Do you know what the problem getting out of CFG was? Entirely don't know, but I imagine Munn has a very good working knowledge of the CFG model and some of the things it's done very well and was seen as a rising star of the group, so I imagine it was just a matter of making sure every t was crossed and every i was dotted on the way out so both parties were satisfied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Tommykins said: Entirely don't know, but I imagine Munn has a very good working knowledge of the CFG model and some of the things it's done very well and was seen as a rising star of the group, so I imagine it was just a matter of making sure every t was crossed and every i was dotted on the way out so both parties were satisfied. @Tommykins Do you know whether he was actually in China? It's bloody difficult to get money into and out of China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: @Tommykins Do you know whether he was actually in China? It's bloody difficult to get money into and out of China. He was in China, but has been in London for months now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted September 23, 2023 Report Share Posted September 23, 2023 20 hours ago, mjake1234 said: Interesting comment from Daniel Lévy on why he appointed Ange Postecoglou at Spurs "who understood our DNA, would play attacking football, that would give young players a chance, believe in the academy, would build a relationship with the fans and understand the resources that we have and don’t have as a club and be part of a team." Sounds exactly what we want from our coach, club and players I think that this was more of a reaction to the previous two managers, Mourinho and Conte, both of whom had none of those qualities and actively blew it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 Sack Guardiola anyone....? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Hack Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Sack Guardiola anyone....? CFG is thinking of replacing him with PK. Guardiola's using too many subs. Seriously though, I get the City way of playing football but I don't get PK and Rado reluctance to use subs. Guardiola uses subs. In all games this season so far: 0 subs used 1 game 1 sub used 1 2 subs used 0 3 subs used 5 4 subs used 2 5 subs used 1 Of those subs used 45-60 mins 4 61-75 mins 9 75-80 mins 4 81-85 mins 5 85+ mins 5 Not all like for like either with sometimes defenders replacing midfielders or wingers, so I'm really perplexed as to why the two Australian coaches play with minimal subs. Isn't Guardiola's Man City meant to be the template 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 8, 2023 Report Share Posted October 8, 2023 @Le HackIt is indeed a puzzle. I can't get my head around it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted October 9, 2023 Report Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Le Hack said: Not all like for like either with sometimes defenders replacing midfielders or wingers, so I'm really perplexed as to why the two Australian coaches play with minimal subs. Isn't Guardiola's Man City meant to be the template Especially in the A-League where the squads are small, and the need to try minimise injuries to the best 11 players is a big concern! Also you can't develop many of the fringe players when they never get on the pitch... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 12/03/2023 at 4:42 PM, haz said: Rado ain't it chief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 12/03/2023 at 4:42 PM, haz said: Rado ain't it chief. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, haz said: If PK still has a job, how much patience will the CFG have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 I’m fully on the bandwagon now. Sack him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 Season's fucked. Clear out, sack the manager, play the kids. Can't get any worse. Start from scratch. There's no pride in this. And kick Jakolis out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted October 29, 2023 Report Share Posted October 29, 2023 New coach, new captain and start again see if we can salvage anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 I have to say I’m really surprised by this swift action of the CFG. Didn’t expect that. As reported, it must been really shambles in the dressing room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr MO said: I have to say I’m really surprised by this swift action of the CFG. Didn’t expect that. As reported, it must been really shambles in the dressing room. Once you've lost the dressing room, it's only going to end one way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr MO said: I have to say I’m really surprised by this swift action of the CFG. Didn’t expect that. As reported, it must been really shambles in the dressing room. Pretty obviously, because if it was just a couple of results PK would have departed Troyes long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 Let's hope that Vidmar can just steady the ship and get the boys playing to the standard that we know they are capable of. I hope CFG will let him have the full season because IMO they rushed the Vidosic appointment in the first place. Surely we have just set a record for the quickest-ever termination of a manager - after just two league matches? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 41 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Let's hope that Vidmar can just steady the ship and get the boys playing to the standard that we know they are capable of. I hope CFG will let him have the full season because IMO they rushed the Vidosic appointment in the first place. Surely we have just set a record for the quickest-ever termination of a manager - after just two league matches? Yes I never understood the rushed 2 year deal they gave Vidosic. It's not exactly just "2 league games" there's been signs from last season that he wasn't cut out for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted October 31, 2023 Report Share Posted October 31, 2023 I eat humble pie and I apologize. The first couple of rounds last season under Rado we played some more free flowing football, shackles removed we called it. Now I realise this was because he just let the players roam completely free and it was just the quality of the players - nothing more. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted November 1, 2023 Report Share Posted November 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Mr MO said: I eat humble pie and I apologize. The first couple of rounds last season under Rado we played some more free flowing football, shackles removed we called it. Now I realise this was because he just let the players roam completely free and it was just the quality of the players - nothing more. Same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted November 2, 2023 Report Share Posted November 2, 2023 Should’ve really gone for Pep. Vidmar shows a lack of ambition. Fold club 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 Assistant Petr Kratky is apparently the next coach of Mumbai City - apparently the next logical step for all our assistant coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IssySG Posted December 6, 2023 Report Share Posted December 6, 2023 41 minutes ago, Tommykins said: Assistant Petr Kratky is apparently the next coach of Mumbai City - apparently the next logical step for all our assistant coaches. When you realise we're the feeder club to Mumbai 🤯 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 Didn't realise that van Houten had left the club. https://melbournecityfc.com.au/news/20240112-coaching-update Women's GK coach also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 24 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Didn't realise that van Houten had left the club. https://melbournecityfc.com.au/news/20240112-coaching-update Women's GK coach also. Well I am glad someone is keeping me updated. Thanks @jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 15 Report Share Posted January 15 And I note that we have another PK in our coaching ranks...!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 25 Report Share Posted February 25 Best move the discussion here please folks. Overall: https://www.ultimatealeague.com/statistics/manager/?show=msm. Not quite sure whether that includes FFA/Australia Cup and AFC competitions or not. Our current coach does not have a good record... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: Best move the discussion here please folks. Overall: https://www.ultimatealeague.com/statistics/manager/?show=msm. Not quite sure whether that includes FFA/Australia Cup and AFC competitions or not. Our current coach does not have a good record... Just proves how either we forget how bad JVS, Valkanis and Joyce were or how tolerant we were of underperformance. Vidmar by no means a star performer and quite underwhelming but interestingly enough his metrics are on par with the above. Also what is interesting is that PK is the best manager of all time (by metrics alone) with significant games under his belt, out performing Ange, Muscat and Arnold. Go figure. Edited February 26 by playmaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 (edited) If you click on the name of each individual manager you will get a better idea of performance. There you will see the breakdown into Wins, Draws and Losses. By looking at the %Draws and Losses you will get a good idea of who was/is actually the most successful in terms of points. The numbers are just A-League results. Edited February 26 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 54 minutes ago, jw1739 said: If you click on the name of each individual manager you will get a better idea of performance. There you will see the breakdown into Wins, Draws and Losses. By looking at the %Draws and Losses you will get a good idea of who was/is actually the most successful in terms of points. The numbers are just A-League results. How many of the 144 games did JVS coach under heart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 24 minutes ago, Mr MO said: How many of the 144 games did JVS coach under heart? All but one season iirc. If you look at his history on transfermarkt, he has been pretty poor until Greece and now Ajax. It seems he can do ok if he has access to top players for the level, but won't get poor teams playing above themselves. I think that's the kind of coach we need, like Montgomery for CCM, Italiano for Nix. I don't care if they are from the EPL, NPL or the Fiji tbh. If a coach can show they can get a small or middling team to punch above their weight, they have to have something about them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 20 minutes ago, moops said: All but one season iirc. If you look at his history on transfermarkt, he has been pretty poor until Greece and now Ajax. It seems he can do ok if he has access to top players for the level, but won't get poor teams playing above themselves. I think that's the kind of coach we need, like Montgomery for CCM, Italiano for Nix. I don't care if they are from the EPL, NPL or the Fiji tbh. If a coach can show they can get a small or middling team to punch above their weight, they have to have something about them. Agree. On point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 (edited) 46 minutes ago, moops said: All but one season iirc. The win ratio seems to be being brought down by the Heart days if you look Australia. Not fully clear in such an overview. Edited February 26 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 26 Report Share Posted February 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr MO said: The win ratio seems to be being brought down by the Heart days if you look Australia. Not fully clear in such an overview. Which exemplifies what I am saying, we were chucking ice in bins for ice baths as Heart, we didn't overperform at all. Chivas he did better as they are one of the better teams in the MX League. Twente he probably underperformed. Maybe it's adaptability, if you have lots of resources you can bring in players to suit what you want, but if not you have to be more adaptable with what you have, which suits a salary capped league as well imho. Edited February 26 by moops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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