jw1739 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Suddenly he decides to drop two senior players for a cup semi-final after blabbing on about how important it was for us to win trophies? The club captain and and the player he himself signed to a four-year contract because he "is thinking longer-term"? And another two senior players develop mysterious calf injuries that no-one saw them sustain? Nah, don't believe a word of it. Smacks to me of the Colosimo situation all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 So he has alienated two of his leadership group, Mooy played poorly, we got hammered, the youth will only come out with less confidence, HE OPENLY CRITICISES PLAYERS IN THE MEDIA WHEN IT SHOULD REMAIN INSIDE THE DRESSING ROOM and he has the hide to suggest it's everyone else's fault but his.I sincerely hope he benches or better still drops both of them again. Firstly because players don't react well to poor management threats and secondly it will just precipitate a quicker demise for JVS.Suggest JVS enrols at Latrobe once he's sacked. Psych 101 and Management Fundamentals 101. I don't think Latrobe runs a course called Coaching for Dummies do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Heartspur Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 This guy reminds me of my old boss. And he was a psychopath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Doesn't talk openly about players having a bad game - criticised.Talks openly about players having a bad game -criticised. Who'd be a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Doesn't talk openly about players having a bad game - criticised.Talks openly about players having a bad game -criticised. Who'd be a coach.Has a win % up there with successful coaches- praisedHas a terrible win % and makes idiotic decisions, then tries to make up excuses for them that dont make sense- criticised 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Pints Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 "They know if we lose, we lose, but we lose in the way we want to..."Wouldn't be surprised if this slogan is pinned up on the dressing room wall.Get this cancerous f#ckwit out of our club asap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fidrildid6 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Bump.This club's mentality is weak as piss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) i will NEVER watch another game until this useless FKN MUPPET is out of our club. He has no fkn clue on how to coach.GET OUT OF OUR CLUB YOU USELESS FKN PRICK!! Edited October 30, 2015 by AntiScum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Let's get this over and done with before this clown does any more damage to our season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) Can't believe they have any faith in van't Schip - has no mongrel in him at all, just gave up initiative, lost game Edited October 30, 2015 by Redwing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 JVS be gone now. Useless. Two goals up and we resort to play defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lime Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 What worries me most is his assessment of players. Who would ever think Ramsay is anywhere near A League level? And then try to turn him into a full back? And then play him so often?Dekker is the new Ramsay, only he is invisible. Gameiro is a fuckin pretender also. God, what I would give for a couple of decent wingers. Williams plays 10 minutes a game, Gameiro and Dekker are virtually useless, Kuzmanovski as dumb as they come. And we have gotten rid of Dugandzic and Ramsay, two who are even worse. Who picks these duds????? and more importantly, why does the Dutch wanker keep playing them? Structure and tactics did us over second half. Just ridiculous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Get rid of all things heart. Including the red colour of the failure of our past. Win the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lime Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Get rid of all things heart. Including the red colour of the failure of our past. Win the leagueWhich includes JVS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 What worries me most is his assessment of players. Who would ever think Ramsay is anywhere near A League level? And then try to turn him into a full back? And then play him so often?Dekker is the new Ramsay, only he is invisible. Gameiro is a fuckin pretender also. God, what I would give for a couple of decent wingers. Williams plays 10 minutes a game, Gameiro and Dekker are virtually useless, Kuzmanovski as dumb as they come. And we have gotten rid of Dugandzic and Ramsay, two who are even worse. Who picks these duds????? and more importantly, why does the Dutch wanker keep playing them? Structure and tactics did us over second half. Just ridiculous. youll find that is because our injury is as long as black man's dick, but yeah i get your frustration. Franijc, Hughes and Gameiro bad signings, if you are injured then you should not be signed to a club trying to build a strong reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr lime Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 it's also about personalities. JVS is a bit soft so more comfortable dealing with introverts. Introverts go missing when things get tough. No extroverts in the squad demanding effort and making others walk taller. Kisnorbo is a warrior but more of a "leader by action" rather than putting verbal rockets up people. Fornaroli seems to lift a notch when things get tough, but he is reliant on supply. Which leaves us with either wimps or young kids in midfield other than perhaps Melling who is underdone and was dragged when we needed him most, for another invisible introvert. Precious few fighters which is why these kind of performances are a regular occurrence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 won't win anything with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityamatic Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Why this bloke is still here is beyond me; Obviously the salary cap is why we cant load the squad, but why CFG has not gone out and bought the best coach (and backroom staff) their plentiful money could buy given there are no restrictions in this area doesn't really make sense if they are serious about becoming a 'force in Asia' or whatever the hell it is they want to achieve here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 i'd say what i really think about this guy but id get IP banned from here and i know how much u all love me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeCee Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Haven't seen the game..have recorder it but not yet watched it It does seem that JVS is living on borrowed time with recent results and the end of last season. If he is still there in the next game he has got to look at the youngsters, with Melling, Mauk, Garuccio, Marino and Archibald all included in the squad. They could just help save his job.Lol, this post is a year old today. I recommend going back to the start of this thread to see some more classic posts. How the fuck does this prick still have a job. The team, no matter who is in it, has remained terrible for years. I sincerely hope that I don't have to bump this post in a years time upon getting home from another standard JvS performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 i'd say what i really think about this guy but id get IP banned from here and i know how much u all love meFire away mate. I will unban you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Teflon john 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Fire away mate. x 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 fucking hopeless this club is fucked honestly HOW IS THIS DUTCH CUNT STILL HAVE A JOB MOST CRUISY JOB EVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOLLYWOOD Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 That's it, I'm done until this cunt gets the axe, last night hurt too much.Get the fuck out of my club JVS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I am so exhausted by everything this cunt brings to our club. Please just send him home now. I dont care if this season is a write off because of it. I just need to see some consequences for long poor performance. I dont think i can handle 6 straight years of this idiocy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Unfortunately, the reality is he won't be sacked until we string a few losses together and have all of our squad fit. Although I am convinced that there must be something in how JVS takes training sessions that leads to us always having half our team out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Unfortunately, the reality is he won't be sacked until we string a few losses together and have all of our squad fit. Although I am convinced that there must be something in how JVS takes training sessions that leads to us always having half our team outWell, I have a feeling that its going to be either him or the spectators unless things change real quick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 What we really need is a coach that can deliver a rocket! JVS doesn't seem like I coach that just looses his shit when trying to get the team back on track, more likely to give the team a pat on the back whilst saying "you can do better"I like the style we play but maybe would be more suited to assistant role with a demanding coach that can deliver a message and put the fear of God into the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Well, I have a feeling that its going to be either him or the spectators unless things change real quick Its going to be the spectators first and then they will sack him unfortunatly. Anyway, its pretty certain he will go this season. I just hope they spend the money to bring in a great manager next time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw10 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Let's all vote with our feet. What a shame cause we really have a good team but with a shit coach we are done! I'd say sack him now before our season is well and truly over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 time for a banner at the next game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 time for a banner at the next gameAlot of people say that. No one actually does it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw10 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 time for a banner at the next gameagree 100% - it will be awesome if only a handful turned up at the next home game with the TIFO. The message will then be loud and clear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Don't we have an global director of coaching or something like that? Borrello - is that his name? What's his role wrt Melbourne?As Step 1 I can't see why we don't stand van 't Schip aside on sick leave, or recall him to Manchester on some pretext or other, and send out someone from Manchester to take over. At least for a while to observe from the inside what the hell is going on, both physically and mentally.As people are saying it's pretty hard to win matches when a third of the squad is always unavailable injured, including 3 out of your 4 outfield visa players. Not only do we have this monotony of soft tissue injuries but the players are out for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Its going to be the spectators first and then they will sack him unfortunatly. Anyway, its pretty certain he will go this season. I just hope they spend the money to bring in a great manager next timewell i cant see myself making any effort to go to games any time soon 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkos Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Been a member since day one, never renewed this year as I refuse to go again while this cock is still the manager! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Why cant his family be missing in him in Mexico again... At least JA seemed to give a fuck that he was a shit coach and could not get results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 If I wasn't fuming enough last night his post match interview just left me stunned. It was as if he didn't care at all. As Cadete said, when JA couldn't get a win he'd give every excuse and say we were 'unlucky' but at least he showed that he still cared and was desperate to do better. I know that may just be a supporter driven emotive thing but I just can't believe how calm this guy is given his terrible record. I'm a big believer in seeing the season as a marathon and that teams have until about mid December to turn things around and still make an impact. I think JVS wopuld be able to get this team right and make playoffs, but long term I can't ever see him winning the league or going into the AFC. It would be nice having some message from CFG on this too, what is expected of our team, where are we at? Is the goal to win the league this season, or is the goal to develop 20 year old kids who can't run out a full 90 minutes? The whole club seems so directionless right now and JVS is the central figure of it all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Forget John Gotti The Infamous Teflon Don, JVS is: Teflon Fucken John. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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