SF33 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 IMO two out of 23 - i.e.10% of your squad (ignoring the "+3" younger players that you're allowed) - being known injury-prone risks is a ridiculous risk to take. You are already accepting that you have a lower chance of success than other clubs. These are the sorts of stupid decisions we've taken in the past - and that's part of the reason why we are where we are. It is madness to keep repeating what you've done before and expect the results to be different. There's just so many variables though and it depends on how we define 'injury prone'. If Germano has a clean run before the end of the season, doesn't have any setbacks, passes a full physical in the offseason, then that's a very different beast to him tweaking something in our remaining games and starting preseason next year in the rehab group. The other aspect is what the depth is like. If we've got 6-8 players in the squad that are simply not up to it, then that's when having a few players on the injury list can really hurt. If the depth is good, having a few injuries shouldn't be a catastrophe, plus the players that are injured don't have to be rushed back in as soon as possible (as it feels we've done a couple of times with JG). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 one half of the problem is gambling on an injury prone player, the half that compounds the risk though is when that player is a key role or position player and the team has little depth in that position - then it becomes a real issue. We have missed Germano less this season that we missed Engelaar last season for instance Yep. Germano is a good player and has the potential - if he ever gets his body right - to be a starter. But if he did sign for another year and had another injury plagued season, that should in no way sabotage the 2015-16 season. We should be expecting a good squad next season, with or without Germano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Played 60 minutes. Is he broken yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Played 60 minutes. Is he broken yet? They'll announce that on Thursday at 10am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Germano is one of my favourite players because he gets it done. He isn't classy or particularly skilful but he makes a big difference when he plays. Last season he put in a string of good performances but inevitably broke down. It's hard not expect the same thing to happen again. I think that being classy and skillful are his greater strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Played 60 minutes. Is he broken yet? Pretty sure he'll be right to play again in 3 weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Played 60 minutes. Is he broken yet? Pretty sure he'll be right to play again in 3 weeks Yep 1 Germano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 If he becomes an Aussie, he's a great 23rd player on your list cause to me, when fit, his energy and aggression is like Melling in the importance to our side. I'd love to see those two zipping around the pitch together to be honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Too crowded in the midfield with Germano, Paartalu, Melling and Mooy. Germano is good enough to start every week, just not healthy enough to start every week. Not sure how we could fit him in with the other two holding mids plus Mooy, even if he was fit to play weekly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Too crowded in the midfield with Germano, Paartalu, Melling and Mooy. Germano is good enough to start every week, just not healthy enough to start every week. Not sure how we could fit him in with the other two holding mids plus Mooy, even if he was fit to play weekly. He's been successfully played at RB and nothing against Jailens, but he is just too slow to offer us anything going forward. Slot Germano in their and Safuwan at LB and suddenly our back 4 don't look too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 It would be a solid back four. No disrespect to fullbacks but I reckon Germano (when fit) is too good to be one. He can play as one because he is quite versatile. I rather like the idea of transitioning Paartalu to CB. Someone mentioned it a while back. Bit of a gamble considering Germano's fitness issues but he and Melling could screen the back four and let Mooy drift forward. I'd love to see Melling and Germano on the pitch at the same time. Two fearless and gritty tacklers would add steel to our midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Pints Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I think Germano's best role going forward will be to come on for Melling when he tires/looks like he's gonna be sent off. Until Melling returns from injury he's a great replacement. I wouldn't play him as a full back, it's not his go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 So much in this thread. This guy must be the highest paid player in Australia based on dollars per minute of time on the pitch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Doesn't play enough= goodbye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 He does. Keeps the physio employed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Of course his contract should not be extended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 So much in this thread. This guy must be the highest paid player in Australia based on dollars per minute of time on the pitch. He's the JVS of players, always does just enough to keep his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 (edited) Edit. Wrong thread. Edited March 16, 2015 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I would rather a fit and healthy Germano for 7 games a season than a fully healthy Iain Ramsay for 27 games a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Jonatan Will-get-injured-anytime-now-ano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I would rather a fit and healthy Germano for 7 games a season than a fully healthy Iain Ramsay for 27 games a season. If we are playing hypothetical, I would prefer any fully fit mid 20s visa midfielder that is a bonafide starter that can play 20+ games than Germano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 I would rather a fit and healthy Germano for 7 games a season than a fully healthy Iain Ramsay for 27 games a season. If we are playing hypothetical, I would prefer any fully fit mid 20s visa midfielder that is a bonafide starter that can play 20+ games than Germano. Due to the Salary Cap the A-League is not won by Marquees or Youth Players in my opinion the major sides (Forget the two Regional Sides) all usually have Marquees and Youth Players that fulfil their job descriptions... of course some better than others. IMO its your middle tier players who make a successful A-league side and that is where we are always being let down... so primarily your Full Backs, your Fourth and Fifth best Central Midfielders and Sub Striker. Having a bloke who cant even get on the field to play one of these roles who also takes up a Visa Spot has hurt us for far too long. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Having a bloke who cant even get on the field to play one of these roles who also takes up a Visa Spot has hurt us for far too long. ... as has poor depth for those positions that leads to decreased competition for places, complacency and mediocrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigs 2 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Not even convinced it was him. Probay some sort of tupac hologram IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted March 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Not even convinced it was him. Probay some sort of tupac hologram IMO Tupac ain't dead, he's just doing a Germano! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Sometimes its just over ... "Okay, now watch this. I'm just gonna break the wrist and walk away. Break the wrist, walk away." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Sign this guy up again! F that! Keep fit and he will be one of our best. Edited March 20, 2015 by Tony999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Sign this guy up again! F that! Keep fit and he will be one of our best. We need a visa player who can play like Germano but for 30 games a season not 5-8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Sign this guy up again! F that! Keep fit and he will be one of our best. We need a visa player who can play like Germano but for 30 games a season not 5-8 I know. But as l mentioned previously, l liked guy from day 1. His work rate too notch. Stay injury-free and all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I like him too but I don't like his injury history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Was great tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Was great tonight Won't play again this season though. Probably will get a new contract cause of these past 2 games. Edited March 20, 2015 by kingofhearts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Was great tonight Yes he usually is when he plays and we win far more games than we lose when he does play, he just does't play often enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Was great tonight Yes he usually is when he plays and we win far more games than we lose when he does play, he just does't play often enough Exactly this. If we want to move on from being an up and down side we must remove being hopeful that a player will be fit, but knowing without doubt he will be. He needs to play the remaining games and not miss a beat to even consider talking to him. Just over the worry. Good player but just injury prone and a liability. Did play very well tonight though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 The good bloke in me says, give him one more year but only on the proviso that should he suffer more injury woes he agrees to mutually terminate his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronAV11 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Imo he was second best on ground tonight behind Kisnorbo. Started last two games, two wins. I really hope we keep him at least for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Imo he was second best on ground tonight behind Kisnorbo. Started last two games, two wins. I really hope we keep him at least for next season. Has always been my favourite player when he plays for us. We just seem to win with him on the pitch. Edited March 20, 2015 by n i k o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 The ideal scenario would be for him to get Aussie citizenship, and we could then use the visa spot on another player. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Imo he was second best on ground tonight behind Kisnorbo. Started last two games, two wins. I really hope we keep him at least for next season. 2nd best on ground? I think we're all getting a bit carried away here. He was ok. Hopefully he can stay fit and regain some sharpness. Good to see him playing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 As I said previously he and Melling provide something we desperately need in the midfield. Energy. They are machines. They don't stop on either defensive or attacking plays. It helps our other players who rely on hard work being done. It's no coincidence that when neither played we looked a shambles. As soon as Germano came into the line up it provides good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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