Shahanga Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 My take on the ratio being our way was the numbers who stayed afterwards. No tard was going to stay to celebrate our victory, so to have what looked like more than half the crowd still there showed we'd come out in force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 That's how I felt, so really there is a fair bit of latent support and these people are pretty much the derby specials. Its now up to club to bring these people in a weekly (fortnightly) basis. If we continue to play with passion and flair more often than not they will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 10 minutes ago, Jovan said: That's how I felt, so really there is a fair bit of latent support and these people are pretty much the derby specials. Its now up to club to bring these people in a weekly (fortnightly) basis. If we continue to play with passion and flair more often than not they will come. My guess is that quite a few have been season ticket holders previously, but have dropped off because of our lack of success and possibly the changes from Heart as well. They will remain City supporters, but the challenge for the club is just as you say - entice them back into the fold. The club is going to have to work harder for this to occur - hype won't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 It was a very pro-City crowd. I would think ~60% which is about 15,000. Well up on the ~7k we have been getting this year. Crowd support for us peaks at derby time because many Heart/City 'fans' are mainly Victory 'haters', than City 'fans'. People support us because we a Victory's rivals. Which is as close to 'club identity' as we have. But that identity is no way to really grow a club though and does not not translate to support against non-Victory teams. With our current form it will be interesting to see crowds post-derby to see if fans stick around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I think that we had around half the area of the lower level but I saw almost no City supporters on the 2 upper levels. This will change in time but it requires sustained success and it will need to be sustained for several seasons I think in order to undo the bawdily created by 5 seasons of mediocrity and constant disappointment. people won't quickly forget and will need some convincing. The next 3 games are crucial against top 4 sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 1 hour ago, bt50 said: Pretty sure we changed the way we sold the tickets to the derby this year to allow better access to City fans, and for it to be much harder for mong fans to get tickets. Probably affected the sales (only slightly) but certainly made for a more pro-City crowd. Bout time we started dicking them a bit for all the shit they make us go through at Etihad. I found the system even worse that usual this time. We bought tickets the day that they went on sale and all the stupid ticketing system would sell us were tickets high up underneath the scoreboard at the melburnians end. We had no option to upgrade to active area online. We complained to membership at the ground and they kindly got us some active area tickets. We had a look at the original seats at half time, the area was filled with visitors families.. Given that the franchise knows who has reserved Cat seats, why doesn't it reserve or purchase the remaining seats in that bay and allow GA ticket holders to allocate themselves the remaining seats? I'd rather any unallocated seats be empty than have visitor supporters in that bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 If our crowds don't lift after that performance I don't know what would. A few neutrals came with me and they couldn't stop talking about the game and atmosphere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 24 minutes ago, belaguttman said: I found the system even worse that usual this time. We bought tickets the day that they went on sale and all the stupid ticketing system would sell us were tickets high up underneath the scoreboard at the melburnians end. We had no option to upgrade to active area online. We complained to membership at the ground and they kindly got us some active area tickets. We had a look at the original seats at half time, the area was filled with visitors families.. Given that the franchise knows who has reserved Cat seats, why doesn't it reserve or purchase the remaining seats in that bay and allow GA ticket holders to allocate themselves the remaining seats? I'd rather any unallocated seats be empty than have visitor supporters in that bay Couldn't agree more Bela. What you propose is so logical. However, I suspect that the problem is that FFA has given the ticketing "rights" to Ticketek and that individual clubs are frozen out of any participation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 It's more like the stadium rather than the FFA. The visitors sell their death star tickets through Ticketmaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 I imagine they set aside the remaining active seats in the hope of people buying memberships, hence when they weren't sold by Friday they were released to the active members as part of a 'bring a friend' email. The system this year was better for members, those GA members from last year that weren't stupid and realised that a 'premium C' membership was just a GA ticket that you didn't need to reserve seat for the derby bought them accordingly. As we saw at the Perth game, theres nothing stopping anyone with a reserved seat from moving to GA if they want to whilst our attendances are sub 13,000. City Members had the chance to buy tickets for their friends before Victory has access to them so those unallocated Premium C were given every chance to be filled by City supporters, and for the most part were. Our 'empty' areas were a combination of active/prem C members that didn't turn up, and the active supporters cramming into the middle bay as usually happens. It basically comes down to looking after members v looking after non-members, you cant have it both ways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 4 hours ago, Heart of Melbourne said: If our crowds don't lift after that performance I don't know what would. A few neutrals came with me and they couldn't stop talking about the game and atmosphere Don't get me started on who will lift attendances..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 9 minutes ago, Tony999 said: Don't get me started on who will lift attendances..... Lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 no idea how there was 10k there tonight so when do we move games to the G? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 2, 2016 Report Share Posted January 2, 2016 10 hours ago, Thrillhouse said: no idea how there was 10k there tonight so when do we move games to the G? How is it a suprise? We are playing some sexy football you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possiblygeorge Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I'm starting to notice more and more Manchester City shirts at each match. It's making me feel uneasy. On another note, how much longer do we think we'll start seeing the bottom deck full and the top deck open? That's of course meaning the Club at the point will be loaded full of bandwagoning flogs. Much like all those that jumped on board when we signed that hack, David Villa, then pissed off once he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, possiblygeorge said: I'm starting to notice more and more Manchester City shirts at each match. It's making me feel uneasy. On another note, how much longer do we think we'll start seeing the bottom deck full and the top deck open? That's of course meaning the Club at the point will be loaded full of bandwagoning flogs. Much like all those that jumped on board when we signed that hack, David Villa, then pissed off once he did. Why would you feel uneasy seeing Man City shirts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possiblygeorge Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Just now, Tony999 said: Why would you feel uneasy seeing Man City shirts? It just seems a majority of them support the Club, as of late, based on the link with Man City and the recent on-field success Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, possiblygeorge said: It just seems a majority of them support the Club, as of late, based on the link with Man City and the recent on-field success Oh well. I'll take 'em regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possiblygeorge Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 Just now, Tony999 said: Oh well. I'll take 'em regardless. Reckon we can crack our home attendance record this season at some point? Personally, i think we can, but it all depends how the transfer season pans out i reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 6 hours ago, possiblygeorge said: It just seems a majority of them support the Club, as of late, based on the link with Man City and the recent on-field success Probably the same ones that call out 'come on citeh' with a fake Manchester accent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 6 hours ago, possiblygeorge said: Reckon we can crack our home attendance record this season at some point? Personally, i think we can, but it all depends how the transfer season pans out i reckon. I hope that I'm wrong but I think that we've missed the boat on this. Most uncommitted A League supporters have long ago decided to follow the successful team rather than Heart/City and our brand really has become marketing poison. The Villa loan sparked some brief interest but what felt like a betrayal along with usual poor and flaky performances last season drove most of those away. Our season ticket numbers still haven't recovered despite increased success. Things will only change if we have continuing sustained success on the pitch over multiple seasons to rebuild the brand reputation as well as bringing in headline grabbing marquees and guest players. The two go hand in hand. Most importantly though we've finally replaced belief with passion - its a right brain appeal that will bring people to the game, not the left brain 'believe'. Even then I doubt that we'll surpass visitor numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 2 hours ago, belaguttman said: I hope that I'm wrong but I think that we've missed the boat on this. Most uncommitted A League supporters have long ago decided to follow the successful team rather than Heart/City and our brand really has become marketing poison. The Villa loan sparked some brief interest but what felt like a betrayal along with usual poor and flaky performances last season drove most of those away. Our season ticket numbers still haven't recovered despite increased success. Things will only change if we have continuing sustained success on the pitch over multiple seasons to rebuild the brand reputation as well as bringing in headline grabbing marquees and guest players. The two go hand in hand. Most importantly though we've finally replaced belief with passion - its a right brain appeal that will bring people to the game, not the left brain 'believe'. Even then I doubt that we'll surpass visitor numbers. Bela, they're not going to recover at this stage of the season - it's not sensible to buy a season ticket now. And these "three-match" offers are a bit of a gimmick - why not be offering a pro-rata season ticket for all the remaining home matches? As for casuals going on-line or rocking up on match day to buy a ticket, just based on the comments on here about the difficulties of getting what they want isn't helping attendances at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 I agree, now is the time for the entry to become free, build numbers for next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityscape Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 10.1k last week, 9.7k this week. We're building, and those that can't see that have an anti-City agenda. Hell of a lot better than the Heart days. And why do we need to be as big as Victory? Averaging 10k to non-derby games with zero marquees is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Hopefully pull a decent crowd against wellington with the womens semi final on before + 2 kids being able to go free with an adult ticket (not sure how if it works with memberships) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I have always held that we haven't "made it" until we get over 10,000 members and regularly over 10,000 to games. We are nearly there and a combination of continued good performances on the ground, a recognisable name and all round entertainment on the day will achieve this. For us last night WAS great entertainment. We started with a picnic in Gosch's (which is beginning to buzz), then into the ground where the game was great, the atmosphere and noise was fabulous - and we won. Bela - Don't like the idea of free entry however what we should target is cheap entertainment for children. Make it an attractor for families, help build the family friendly flavour of City and start to build numbers for next year. It seems to work for that funny game BBL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 32 minutes ago, mjake1234 said: I have always held that we haven't "made it" until we get over 10,000 members and regularly over 10,000 to games. We are nearly there and a combination of continued good performances on the ground, a recognisable name and all round entertainment on the day will achieve this. For us last night WAS great entertainment. We started with a picnic in Gosch's (which is beginning to buzz), then into the ground where the game was great, the atmosphere and noise was fabulous - and we won. Bela - Don't like the idea of free entry however what we should target is cheap entertainment for children. Make it an attractor for families, help build the family friendly flavour of City and start to build numbers for next year. It seems to work for that funny game BBL. Surely if we're going to define 'making it' the best yardstick is getting enough people to open the top tier at AAMI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 If we are in title contention, i expect we'll draw crowds of 14k+ for our last two or three home games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Prices will continue to be an issue while BBL is so cheap in comparison. I though CFG would've made our ticket prices slightly lower to entice more people as regulars then slowly increase the price as our numbers built over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 23 minutes ago, mus-28 said: Prices will continue to be an issue while BBL is so cheap in comparison. I though CFG would've made our ticket prices slightly lower to entice more people as regulars then slowly increase the price as our numbers built over the years. Came in on the train as usual. Plenty of people going to see City, a lot more going to the "cricket." Going to see City: middle-aged and elderly husbands and wives, 30-s men with one or two children in tow, some 3-4 person families, groups of 2-3 youngish males perhaps friends or work colleagues. Going to see the "cricket": very large extended family groups of 8-10 people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 There's anywhere between $2-5 between the GA admin at the cricket and the football, not a massive difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 1 minute ago, Tommykins said: There's anywhere between $2-5 between the GA admin at the cricket and the football, not a massive difference. Turns into a big difference if you're taking a few kids or friends 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
possiblygeorge Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 38 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Came in on the train as usual. Plenty of people going to see City, a lot more going to the "cricket." Going to see City: middle-aged and elderly husbands and wives, 30-s men with one or two children in tow, some 3-4 person families, groups of 2-3 youngish males perhaps friends or work colleagues. Going to see the "cricket": very large extended family groups of 8-10 people. They've been told to be scared of us Sokkah hooligan terrorists 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Family ticket to BBL $42.50 (2 adults, 2 kids) extra kids $5ea Family ticket to Melb City game $68.31 extra kids $7.65ea GA tickets should be $20ea, Kids $5ea, Family $45 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, mus-28 said: Family ticket to BBL $42.50 (2 adults, 2 kids) extra kids $5ea Family ticket to Melb City game $68.31 extra kids $7.65ea GA tickets should be $20ea, Kids $5ea, Family $45 Might I suggest that you post that to City Voice? The message will get to the club that way, and at least you will get some sort of reply. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Average first four home matches this season (CCM, Newcastle, Western Sydney, Perth): 7,370. Average for the past two home matches (Sydney, Western Sydney): 9,958. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 10k should be minimum regardless who we play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Perfect time for a big name guest player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Messi? He just won Balon Dor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 12, 2016 Report Share Posted January 12, 2016 4 hours ago, Dylan said: Perfect time for a big name guest player Samaras? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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