jw1739 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 18 minutes ago, [LIBBA] said: Ok maybe i was a little harsh on the bloke and yes he's still young, but atm how he is anywhere near the starting 11 over Fitzy is mind boggling to say the least. I think that was just my frustration over time of watching him blunder a number of chances time after time after time. IMHO he needs to come off the bench and be an impact sub for the remainder of the season and nothing more. My qualitative observation is that most on here agree with the above. I suggest that we leave this thread until the next match. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 17 hours ago, jeffplz said: Here I come with the realist comment he's still youth and wil have another 2 seasons to tear up the league. I see him pulling an Aaron Mooy by then See I see Caceras as the next potential. They guy has some serious talent. Think back to all the games where he's been given the role of creative playmaker and taken responsibility he's shown a Mooyesque type of quality. He's also of similar age to when Mooy came over to us. Problem is he's not being given enough game time to continue plying his trade. Kamau skill level needs to be another 2 levels above where he is now and he needs to be able to finish as well if he's going to do anything with his football, given his size and stature. The guys nearly 23 and he's got the body of a 13 year old boy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted April 19, 2017 Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, n i k o said: Kamau skill level needs to be another 2 levels above where he is now and he needs to be able to finish as well if he's going to do anything with his football, given his size and stature. The guys nearly 23 and he's got the body of a 13 year old boy. total agreement Niko he needs at least 5 kg of solid muscle added to his frame, otherwise he will forever be pushed of the ball by defenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 Quote KAMAU TARGETS WORLD CUP SELECTION By Clement Tito Jul 29 2017 7:30AM Bruce Kamau has never represented the Socceroos but lining up for Australia at a World Cup is on his radar. The Melbourne City winger recently played three games for the green and gold in the 2018 Asian U-23 Championship Qualifiers in Japan and Bahrain. Kenyan-born Kamau said in November last year his dream was to one day represent Australia when he migrated at just age four. It isn’t unknown for players with few or no caps to get picked for a World Cup and Kamau said it was all about hitting top gear at the right time. "It doesn't really matter how many (international) caps you have if you're playing well enough,” Kamau said. "If you're playing well enough and you can do the job, then I don't see why there's any reason why you can't represent your country, even at a World Cup. "That's obviously something any Australian player would be looking to do and I'm no different.” Kamau also said breaking into Ange Postecoglou’s squad motivated him to have a strong A-League season. The 22-year-old played 26 games and finished with seven assists and one goal with City after previously helping former club Adelaide United to their first A-League title. City will play their first competitive game since last season’s finals, against Peninsula Power on Tuesday night in the FFA Cup Round of 32. "You look at last season and you review yourself and you have your own goals,” he said. "Stuff like that (Socceroos selection) is definitely something that's on my radar.” City unveiled their new kit on Thursday which looks similar to Manchester City’s classic blue and white strip.And while Kamau was an Arsenal supporter as a child, he said he liked the colours and that the material was light which suited the hot conditions. The kit launch had the whole 2017/18 City squad mingling with club members while enjoying refreshments. City have so far signed Scott Jamieson, Eugene Galekovic, Iacopo La Rocca and Stefan Mauk for his second stint. Kamau said he could see how City were really trying to shift attitudes and standards for the rest of the league to follow. “I think it’s a benchmark for other clubs - the facilities and the vision for how they want the club to be is what inspired me to come to the club,” Kamau said. “It’s only going to grow, get bigger and better from here on in. “Those guys (the new signings) have won an A-League championship before. I think that experience helps but also the ones that haven’t won it yet, that desire to win one is something that’ll play a part as well.” https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/kamau-targets-world-cup-selection-469638 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, haz said: KAMAU TARGETS WORLD CUP SELECTION By Clement Tito Jul 29 2017 7:30AM Bruce Kamau has never represented the Socceroos but lining up for Australia at a World Cup is on his radar. The Melbourne City winger recently played three games for the green and gold in the 2018 Asian U-23 Championship Qualifiers in Japan and Bahrain. Kenyan-born Kamau said in November last year his dream was to one day represent Australia when he migrated at just age four. It isn’t unknown for players with few or no caps to get picked for a World Cup and Kamau said it was all about hitting top gear at the right time. "It doesn't really matter how many (international) caps you have if you're playing well enough,” Kamau said. "If you're playing well enough and you can do the job, then I don't see why there's any reason why you can't represent your country, even at a World Cup. "That's obviously something any Australian player would be looking to do and I'm no different.” Kamau also said breaking into Ange Postecoglou’s squad motivated him to have a strong A-League season. The 22-year-old played 26 games and finished with seven assists and one goal with City after previously helping former club Adelaide United to their first A-League title. City will play their first competitive game since last season’s finals, against Peninsula Power on Tuesday night in the FFA Cup Round of 32. "You look at last season and you review yourself and you have your own goals,” he said. "Stuff like that (Socceroos selection) is definitely something that's on my radar.” City unveiled their new kit on Thursday which looks similar to Manchester City’s classic blue and white strip.And while Kamau was an Arsenal supporter as a child, he said he liked the colours and that the material was light which suited the hot conditions. The kit launch had the whole 2017/18 City squad mingling with club members while enjoying refreshments. City have so far signed Scott Jamieson, Eugene Galekovic, Iacopo La Rocca and Stefan Mauk for his second stint. Kamau said he could see how City were really trying to shift attitudes and standards for the rest of the league to follow. “I think it’s a benchmark for other clubs - the facilities and the vision for how they want the club to be is what inspired me to come to the club,” Kamau said. “It’s only going to grow, get bigger and better from here on in. “Those guys (the new signings) have won an A-League championship before. I think that experience helps but also the ones that haven’t won it yet, that desire to win one is something that’ll play a part as well.” https://www.fourfourtwo.com.au/news/kamau-targets-world-cup-selection-469638 as made immortal by the Castle "tell him he's dreaming " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 I hope that he gets selected, it'll mean that next season will be way better for him than he's showed so far 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 He's got the talent, just needs the backing of the coaching staff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 I like his ambition I prefer players who want to be the best they can be and aim for higher honours then ones who say hopefully I have a good season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted July 29, 2017 Report Share Posted July 29, 2017 7 hours ago, neio said: I like his ambition I prefer players who want to be the best they can be and aim for higher honours then ones who say hopefully I have a good season Same. Obviously it's easy to knock someone that has ambitions and goals early on and sometimes publicly announcing them isn't the most shrewd thing to do. But good luck to him. If he makes into the world cup then he will have a special year for us and it's definitely a win win situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 LMAO won't get selected. Wont even last long with us. Pretty sure he was only signed to be the token black guy (I know how these things work). Now we have tongyik so expect Kamau to get dropped and sign for thornbury athletic in state 5 north halfway through the season. Never seen a more retarded professional footballer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted July 30, 2017 Report Share Posted July 30, 2017 14 hours ago, strider said: LMAO won't get selected. Wont even last long with us. Pretty sure he was only signed to be the token black guy (I know how these things work). Now we have tongyik so expect Kamau to get dropped and sign for thornbury athletic in state 5 north halfway through the season. Never seen a more retarded professional footballer But he is a good dribbler and fast so is a good player to have in your fifa team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted July 31, 2017 Report Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 19/04/2017 at 9:39 AM, jw1739 said: My qualitative observation is that most on here agree with the above. I suggest that we leave this thread until the next match. Are you the devil in disguise... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexJones Posted August 1, 2017 Report Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) Piss off Kamoooo Edited August 1, 2017 by AlexJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 08/10/2016 at 5:47 PM, InMyHeart said: This bloke is overrated... There is this false perception that he is lighting fast.. he is one paced and gets bodied out of the contest too easily This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 This guy was an absolute world beater at Adelaide when i watched him play. I wonder whats happened to him, has he just been found out, or is he not as good as we all thought he was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 He happened to look good playing in the team that ended up winning the league. Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 2, 2017 Report Share Posted August 2, 2017 The answer is to look him up on transfermarkt and there you will see, for seasons 2014/15 and 2015/16, how misleading a statistical summary can be. He wasn't a starting player at Adelaide until late in the second season, and only in the GF did he play the full 90. He's never been a regular goalscorer in the A-League (total just a measly 4 goals). IMO he's repeating at City what he was at Adelaide - over-rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, jw1739 said: The answer is to look him up on transfermarkt and there you will see, for seasons 2014/15 and 2015/16, how misleading a statistical summary can be. He wasn't a starting player at Adelaide until late in the second season, and only in the GF did he play the full 90. He's never been a regular goalscorer in the A-League (total just a measly 4 goals). IMO he's repeating at City what he was at Adelaide - over-rated. the kid has talent and potential, no denying that . I've made this point before, 2 things stop him taking the next step, one can be solved easily, he needs to put on at least 5kgs of muscle, lower body, to enable him to not be bullied of the ball. the second is much harder to correct. His decision making , this has l been discussed before by many here, I'm not going to reiterate the points. If he could solve these 2 areas, he could play in Europe, but the second point is the hardest to correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 I'm very confused at the expectations of A League players. The bloke has shown he has ability but never consistently. His overall game is flawed by some big deficiencies (shooting and decision making ) but he is still a valuable player in the context of the A League. If he made the right decisions 9 times out of 10 and could finish clinically he would be a 20 million dollar player but he can't and to be frank I don't think he will. Having said that he is still good enough at A League level. And while I'm at it Fitzy is very close to Kamau in this regard but they are still good enough on their day to trouble any defence. I'm happy enough to have them plus a fit Brandan to fight it out for the winger positions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jovan said: I'm very confused at the expectations of A League players. The bloke has shown he has ability but never consistently. His overall game is flawed by some big deficiencies (shooting and decision making ) but he is still a valuable player in the context of the A League. If he made the right decisions 9 times out of 10 and could finish clinically he would be a 20 million dollar player but he can't and to be frank I don't think he will. Having said that he is still good enough at A League level. And while I'm at it Fitzy is very close to Kamau in this regard but they are still good enough on their day to trouble any defence. I'm happy enough to have them plus a fit Brandan to fight it out for the winger positions. Of Kamau and Fitzy I prefer the latter. For two reasons - Fitzy can run out a match, and he can score. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Of Kamau and Fitzy I prefer the latter. For two reasons - Fitzy can run out a match, and he can score. Fitzy also suffers from consistency. I think both a good enough and would happily play both until Fernando returns. Then it will depend on form who gets the nod. FWIW Kamau had 1 goal 7 assists last season and Fitzy had 4 goals 3 assists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Kamau's got plenty of ability but his decision making is atrocious. At his age I'm not sure if it can be coached out of him unfortunately, we'll see. Joyce has made a career our of improving young players and helping them reach a high level, so if there's any possibility it can be done then he'd have a chance. He's easily pushed off the ball but that can be corrected by putting on a bit of muscle and working on his core strength, he's still young enough that that doesn't worry me too much Edited August 3, 2017 by Embee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 The Fitz > Shitmau Kamoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 That shot he took in the second half, when he cut back into the box and blasted it high and wide, is one of the most retarded shots I've ever seen at any level of football. Fuk it was bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 My issue is that at his age the basic stuff should have been developed already, so the question is do we keep him on the pitch with these deficiencies or do we start younger players and develop them. I would prefer the latter until Kamau earns his starting position again as he consistently costs us attacking potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 53 minutes ago, playmaker said: My issue is that at his age the basic stuff should have been developed already, so the question is do we keep him on the pitch with these deficiencies or do we start younger players and develop them. I would prefer the latter until Kamau earns his starting position again as he consistently costs us attacking potential. Watched Mitchell Rangers VS Bundoora United last week, one of the wingers for Bundoora was far more developed and influential than Kamau has ever looked. State 5 are where the real gems are tbh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, playmaker said: My issue is that at his age the basic stuff should have been developed already, so the question is do we keep him on the pitch with these deficiencies or do we start younger players and develop them. I would prefer the latter until Kamau earns his starting position again as he consistently costs us attacking potential. 14 minutes ago, strider said: Watched Mitchell Rangers VS Bundoora United last week, one of the wingers for Bundoora was far more developed and influential than Kamau has ever looked. State 5 are where the real gems are tbh IMO that's the whole point in the Kamau debate. Bruce is already 22. We're not talking about a 17-year-old here. Why spend the time and money to develop him further - when there'e no guarantee of success - when you can go out there and get a ready-made player, even using the "Mature aged rookie" option? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: IMO that's the whole point in the Kamau debate. Bruce is already 22. We're not talking about a 17-year-old here. Why spend the time and money to develop him further - when there'e no guarantee of success - when you can go out there and get a ready-made player, even using the "Mature aged rookie" option? Hang on. He is a servicable competent A League player. Frustrating and annoying but still competent. He is miles ahead any so called ready-made player whoever that is. Even at 22 he has upside. Maybe not enough for some but as long as he does his job then that's fine with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Jovan said: Hang on. He is a servicable competent A League player. Frustrating and annoying but still competent. He is miles ahead any so called ready-made player whoever that is. Even at 22 he has upside. Maybe not enough for some but as long as he does his job then that's fine with me. Let's see what a decent coach can do for him. There is raw talent and enthusiasm. Maybe enough of what is missing can be instilled with good coaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Jovan said: I'm very confused at the expectations of A League players. The bloke has shown he has ability but never consistently. His overall game is flawed by some big deficiencies (shooting and decision making ) but he is still a valuable player in the context of the A League. If he made the right decisions 9 times out of 10 and could finish clinically he would be a 20 million dollar player but he can't and to be frank I don't think he will. Having said that he is still good enough at A League level. And while I'm at it Fitzy is very close to Kamau in this regard but they are still good enough on their day to trouble any defence. I'm happy enough to have them plus a fit Brandan to fight it out for the winger positions. Hang on. You keep posting sensible stuff like this, during the off season, with no exaggeration and no expletives and you think you can just get away with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 42 minutes ago, Shahanga said: Hang on. You keep posting sensible stuff like this, during the off season, with no exaggeration and no expletives and you think you can just get away with it? I'm saving all my bullshit irrationality for middle of November when its clear to everyone that we have another fucked up team run by a bunch fuck nuggets. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 22 minutes ago, Jovan said: fuck nuggets. Ah my favourite insult. Up there with 'wank stain' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, haz said: Ah my favourite insult. Up there with 'wank stain' Cum bucket? Sausage wallet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted August 3, 2017 Report Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, bt50 said: Cum bucket? Sausage wallet? hahahaha never heard those before must be Ballarat talk, Sausage Wallet made me giggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted October 6, 2017 Report Share Posted October 6, 2017 Well done Brucey. That brace will do his confidence no end of good. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted October 7, 2017 Report Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Shahanga said: Well done Brucey. That brace will do his confidence no end of good. Agree, great to see him scores and I really hope this is a catalyst to a much better season. Come on Brucey get those blinkers off and rip some killer passes centrally and you will be one of the best wingers in the A-league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted October 21, 2017 Report Share Posted October 21, 2017 I wonder if Brucey will get 1 or 2 tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Bruce is October nomination for Aleague young player of the season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 Should Bruce be in the socceroos conversation ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 31, 2017 Report Share Posted October 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Chris p said: Should Bruce be in the socceroos conversation ? No 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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