jw1739 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 ATM the squad is down to 18 players, assuming Mooy, Fornaroli, Brattan and Caceres are in. With Mooy highly likely to go, that will leave us 17. We have room for three visa players, and the way I read the list so far we need quality reinforcements everywhere except GK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC22 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: ATM the squad is down to 18 players, assuming Mooy, Fornaroli, Brattan and Caceres are in. With Mooy highly likely to go, that will leave us 17. We have room for three visa players, and the way I read the list so far we need quality reinforcements everywhere except GK. Mooy definitely gone. 90% of our chances this season will depend on our signings between now and round 1. Need to nail EVERY visa spot. No Aaron Hughes' this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 When does pre-season training begin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 48 minutes ago, JC22 said: Mooy definitely gone. 90% of our chances this season will depend on our signings between now and round 1. Need to nail EVERY visa spot. No Aaron Hughes' this year. might go in with 2 visa spots to save some coin for an aussie international if they can get who they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 hour ago, AntiScum said: might go in with 2 visa spots to save some coin for an aussie international if they can get who they want. No, I disagree with that. You go into the season with five good visa players. Only 27 matches - no use waiting around for what might happen later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jw1739 said: No, I disagree with that. You go into the season with five good visa players. Only 27 matches - no use waiting around for what might happen later. Well I wouldn't worry, given AntiScum suggested it it's definitely not going to happen Edited June 22, 2016 by Embee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Historically the club that gets its visa players right they end up winning the league. When are they going to learn. Fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 ... yeah but how many clubs have so far signed all their visas? That's why I'm not worrying... yet... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 22 minutes ago, Heart of Melbourne said: Historically the club that gets its visa players right they end up winning the league. When are they going to learn. Fuck. On my count we have 3 spots avaliable and 3+ months until the season starts, I don't understand your concern? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 1 minute ago, thisphantomfortress said: On my count we have 3 spots avaliable and 3+ months until the season starts, I don't understand your concern? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: On my count we have 3 spots avaliable and 3+ months until the season starts, I don't understand your concern? My concern is we always fuck up our visa spots. Koren, Hughes etc. would you like me to continue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 I'm waiting for the "Samaras" thread to be resurrected  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 9 minutes ago, Heart of Melbourne said: My concern is we always fuck up our visa spots. Koren, Hughes etc. would you like me to continue I would be very surprised if CFG havent learnt from their mistakes and will be going down the Bruno route not the past it prem player route 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: No, I disagree with that. You go into the season with five good visa players. Only 27 matches - no use waiting around for what might happen later. No doubt they have there targets settled on and if they can land them all great, if not i dont have a problem in going into the season one visa player short and an aussie international who takes the coin of a Visa player (just remember relocation fees, accomodation, transport etc etc all count under the cap). Ie: IF for example a Holman is available who takes the extra coin so be it, it`s a win win really (its not really a hit and hope to see if they will adapt or settle for that matter). You can always sign a visa player come January or if injuries dont go our way or even a guest stint for that matter. Edited June 22, 2016 by AntiScum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 27 minutes ago, AntiScum said: No doubt they have there targets settled on and if they can land them all great, if not i dont have a problem in going into the season one visa player short and an aussie international who takes the coin of a Visa player (just remember relocation fees, accomodation, transport etc etc all count under the cap). Ie: IF for example a Holman is available who takes the extra coin so be it, it`s a win win really (its not really a hit and hope to see if they will adapt or settle for that matter). You can always sign a visa player come January or if injuries dont go our way or even a guest stint for that matter. Seriously. The last 2 seasons we have started them without a full squad and we have lost points in the early rounds. Last year we salvaged our season on an amazing January transfer window. That was very fortunate. If we don't have close to a full list most importantly visa spots by round 1 we can just kiss another season goodbye. But round 1 is a good 12 weeks away so no need to freak.  Just yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 Holman is rubbish I hope you're not suggesting we're going after him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, heart_fan10 said: Holman is rubbish I hope you're not suggesting we're going after him I'd be questioning his motivation other than money  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted June 22, 2016 Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, heart_fan10 said: Holman is rubbish I hope you're not suggesting we're going after him Not suggesting Holman one bit it was just an example. 43 minutes ago, Jovan said: Seriously. The last 2 seasons we have started them without a full squad and we have lost points in the early rounds. Last year we salvaged our season on an amazing January transfer window. That was very fortunate. If we don't have close to a full list most importantly visa spots by round 1 we can just kiss another season goodbye. But round 1 is a good 12 weeks away so no need to freak.  Just yet. I could be wrong but most clubs go into the season with one spot available for what ever reasons. If for what ever reason you cant land your targets id rather go one visa player short and wait till someone you want becomes available. Gives you a chance to have some cap money available come Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellydrum Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Fourfourtwo linking Alan Baro with victory. http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/victory-linked-spanish-defensive-midfielder Also recent Spanish articles are linking him to victory and not us. http://www.emporda.info/esports/2016/06/22/alan-baro-marxa-australia/319032.html http://www.lesportiudecatalunya.cat/nel9/article/8-esports/52-futbol-catala/978981-alan-baro-cap-a-australia.html Maybe in those initial articles, they just meant "the city of melbourne" rather than "melbourne city" and google translate messed it up.  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 On 22/06/2016 at 5:49 PM, heart_fan10 said: Holman is rubbish I hope you're not suggesting we're going after him I disagree. Sure, he's not the most skillful player but he's the kind of guy who gives 100% effort and work rate, and is capable of x-factor moments. I doubt we'd want him as a marquee though, so I could see a club like Newcastle or Sydney going for him and offering him more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Boy we're a long way back with all the players we've lost. Â We got some serious recruiting to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Rasputin said: Boy we're a long way back with all the players we've lost. Â We got some serious recruiting to do. ,,,and the rumour mill has stopped turning. I'm waiting with great interest to see who turns up for pre-season training next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, jw1739 said: ,,,and the rumour mill has stopped turning. I'm waiting with great interest to see who turns up for pre-season training next week. Bring your boots JW 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 (edited) So far the positions we need covered are centre back, left back, winger, marquee midfielder. Following that the next important part is betting the best quality back up players in key positions. Ive only added the quality backups we would have  So far I've got the following positions and their back ups: Centre backs: Once we get a top centre back we'll have Malik, Muscat and Chapman to decide those two positions. Left back: Need a starting left back. We have Clisby as back up (not ideal but proven to be solid)  Right back: we can have Muscat or Retre to replace Franjic Midfield: If Brattan doesn't play we have Malik and Melling Attacking Mid: Caceras or Melling can slot into this position. Wingers: Really need to bring in a quality winger as first choice here as we've lost Novillo. Choice out of Gamiero(should be starter though), Fitzy, Kamau Striker: If something happens to Bruno who will replace him? Seriously lacking here. So assuming we get the following starting players: centre back, left back, marquee mid, winger....I feel the positions we need to look at getting strong back up players is definitely the striker position, and potentially the left back position. Edited June 23, 2016 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Will be interesting to see if they are planning on making Gameiro and Kamau our two starting wingers. Would be at bad moove imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 6 minutes ago, n i k o said:  Right back: we can have Muscat or Retre.   Ivan Franjic is likely to be the preferred starting RB after a solid pre-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, belaguttman said: Ivan Franjic is likely to be the preferred starting RB after a solid pre-season That's why I said they are back ups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, haz said: Will be interesting to see if they are planning on making Gameiro and Kamau our two starting wingers. Would be at bad moove imo I would say Gameiro's career is on a knife edge. It's tough to come back after one ACL let alone two. Training is a lot different from the physicality of a competitive match, and if he's going to come back it's going to have to be gradually. IMO it would be madness to make him a starting player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I would say Gameiro's career is on a knife edge. It's tough to come back after one ACL let alone two. Training is a lot different from the physicality of a competitive match, and if he's going to come back it's going to have to be gradually. IMO it would be madness to make him a starting player. Remember JW this wouldn't be the first strange decision the club has made. But then again when he plays left back it won't be as demanding as being a winger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I can't fathom the club at all at the moment. It seems to have gone into one of its periodic "snooze" modes. Crappy PR when I thought - despite our various individual opinions - both John Didulica and Harry N. deserved much more recognition for their positive contributions to the club than they received. Especially JD - you don't have a bloke in a senior position for six years and then say goodbye in a couple of sentences. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 15 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I can't fathom the club at all at the moment. It seems to have gone into one of its periodic "snooze" modes. Crappy PR when I thought - despite our various individual opinions - both John Didulica and Harry N. deserved much more recognition for their positive contributions to the club than they received. Especially JD - you don't have a bloke in a senior position for six years and then say goodbye in a couple of sentences. Theres abit more to him leaving than meets the eye ..... Why would someone whore himsefl around for other positions? I know for a fact he approached other clubs before applying for the PFA job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post n i k o Posted June 24, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, AntiScum said: I know for a fact 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, AntiScum said: Theres abit more to him leaving than meets the eye ..... Why would someone whore himsefl around for other positions? I know for a fact he approached other clubs before applying for the PFA job Your inside information holds about as much credibility as Christian7s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 36 minutes ago, KSK_47 said: Your inside information holds about as much credibility as Christian7s Or @Christian10Â @Christian8Â or @Christian9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Niko Kranjcar to Rangers. Cross his name off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted June 26, 2016 Report Share Posted June 26, 2016 Because there has been nothing posted this weekend i thought someone maybe had a thought as to who this big marquee is. Any idea peoples? I think it is Kaka but obviously we have to wait for MLS to finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 @AntiScum is on 442 now  http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116904 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 38 minutes ago, Dylan said: @AntiScum is on 442 now  http://au.fourfourtwo.com/forums/default.aspx?g=posts&t=116904 100% not me but i still expect it to happen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnibari Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 The Age reporting that Gombau in talks to coach the Olyroos:Â http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/former-adelaide-united-coach-josep-gombau-in-talks-with-ffa-to-oversee-olyroos-20160623-gpqbtc.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 27, 2016 Report Share Posted June 27, 2016 On Wednesday, June 22, 2016 at 4:47 PM, AntiScum said:  27 minutes ago, Kinnibari said: The Age reporting that Gombau in talks to coach the Olyroos: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/former-adelaide-united-coach-josep-gombau-in-talks-with-ffa-to-oversee-olyroos-20160623-gpqbtc.html Can't be accurate. He will be named just after the Grand Final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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