n i k o Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, KSK_47 said: (Eddie- not you Niko) Yeah perhaps. Or perhaps not. You never know what angle Eddie may be coming from, but without doubt it will be self serving. Edited March 16, 2016 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 I have seen plans for further development on the Latrobe Uni campus that involve the construction of a stadium of some description. IIRC the plan shows the stadium adjacent to Plenty Road between Preston Cemetery and Darebin Creek. It's a proposal by the university rather than City. I didn't keep any details or the paperwork but perhaps someone could hunt those down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, n i k o said: without doubt it will be self serving. This is why he is dumb. Really really dumb. Fo real. His proposal is based on ego not what is needed/best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, KSK_47 said: This is why he is dumb. Really really dumb. Fo real. His proposal is based on ego not what is needed/best After what Eddie did to Athletics Australia I would not trust anything he says. It sounds like a dumb idea so what is the angle? What is in it for him/Collingwood/AFL? Did he say that to distract from some other issue? You just never know with Eddie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NewConvert said: After what Eddie did to Athletics Australia I would not trust anything he says. It sounds like a dumb idea so what is the angle? What is in it for him/Collingwood/AFL? Did he say that to distract from some other issue? You just never know with Eddie. I dont trust anything he says. He is sly but ultimately dumb because as mentioned everything he does is to benifit him/collingwood/afl. And when the core of every decision you make is to protect something that is so insular you cant make a smart decision. *edit- but this is getting way off topic Edited March 16, 2016 by KSK_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Eddie is a morning radio show host and has nothing to do with proposals or future strategy for the AFL, I have no idea why it was taken so seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, hedaik said: Eddie is a morning radio show host and has nothing to do with proposals or future strategy for the AFL, I have no idea why it was taken so seriously. Because its Melbourne and for some reason whenever he says something everyone in this town listens to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 1 hour ago, NewConvert said: After what Eddie did to Athletics Australia I would not trust anything he says. It sounds like a dumb idea so what is the angle? What is in it for him/Collingwood/AFL? Did he say that to distract from some other issue? You just never know with Eddie. This was my point @KSK_47 although I totally agree about the ego. Dumb or calculating are very different. Anyway, moving on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, n i k o said: This was my point @KSK_47 although I totally agree about the ego. Dumb or calculating are very different. Anyway, moving on. My point was that if you are being calculating about something that is to the detriment of your own environment you are incredibly dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 CFG will build a new stadium when its financially viable ... given we struggle to crack 10k, it will be a while away, but I have no doubt that it will happen eventually. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Well here's a smack in the mouth for Eddie lol why don't we buy the old Collingwood ground from Collingwood council it is next to a railway station and is now under used, could be redeveloped for a rectangular stadium including plenty of parking etc. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 2 hours ago, johnno cpfc said: Well here's a smack in the mouth for Eddie lol why don't we buy the old Collingwood ground from Collingwood council it is next to a railway station and is now under used, could be redeveloped for a rectangular stadium including plenty of parking etc. I heard a rumour this was looked into pre-Bundoora construction. I'm sure though that our friend Edward would pull in every favour he could to make sure such a thing never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, Shahanga said: I heard a rumour this was looked into pre-Bundoora construction. I'm sure though that our friend Edward would pull in every favour he could to make sure such a thing never happened. Its alright, money has more friends than Eddie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 10 hours ago, NewConvert said: After what Eddie did to Athletics Australia I would not trust anything he says. It sounds like a dumb idea so what is the angle? What is in it for him/Collingwood/AFL? Did he say that to distract from some other issue? You just never know with Eddie. http://www.smh.com.au/national/collingwood-secretly-lobbied-for-park-20090811-egz0.html The shafting of Athletics Victoria was done with the full participation of the then premier John Brumby, a Collingwood supporter. It gets murkier because the article says: "Some in the athletics community have questioned the role played by Collingwood president Eddie McGuire, who is on the board of Athletics Australia, the governing body of Olympic Park tenant Athletics Victoria. Athletics Australia president Rob Fildes, a former Collingwood player, has defended Mr McGuire against any conflict-of-interest allegations, saying the Magpie chief was a strong advocate for athletics." Eddie is a media slut, he needs attention to feed his ego and his media profile. Saying something daft wouldn't bother him. He knows people will talk about it and in turn he gets attention. Jeff Kennett said is was a ridiculous idea: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jeff-kennett-squashes-eddie-mcguires-plan-for-1-billion-stadium-next-to-mcg-20160308-gne42u.html "If knocking down Hisense stadium is part of it, and that then doesn't allow property for tennis, then I would have to say that I am not prepared to put at risk the Australian Open in Melbourne for a new stadium fundamentally for football in all its various forms." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted March 18, 2016 Report Share Posted March 18, 2016 Or we could buy Visy in parkville. That's a rad stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw10 Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 16 hours ago, Tonyboozeadams said: Or we could buy Visy in parkville. That's a rad stadium why can't we just buy AAMI Park? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Couldn't get to the Family Day today, but the map seemed to indicate that the City Football Academy now includes 2 buildings in that complex. Has the facility been expanded? There was talk about the women getting facility upgrades but hadn't seen an update since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 On 19/03/2016 at 0:26 PM, raw10 said: why can't we just buy AAMI Park? It's owned by the state government, and in my experience governments hate to sell off land if they think they will make more money off renting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted September 25, 2016 Report Share Posted September 25, 2016 Australian Governments love selling public assets to their mates in the 1%, especially if they donate to the political party 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted September 29, 2016 Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 On 26/09/2016 at 0:55 AM, belaguttman said: Australian Governments love selling public assets to their mates in the 1%, especially if they donate to the political party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 On 26/09/2016 at 0:49 AM, Falastur said: It's owned by the state government, and in my experience governments hate to sell off land if they think they will make more money off renting it. Nah, they make a loss renting it, just how things work in Australia. Only stadium built with minimal government subsidisation (at least I think it was minimal) in recent times AFAIK is Etihad and that's probably the most utilised stadium in the country, including being home ground to 5 AFL teams, an A-League team, a cricket team and various miscellaneous events. Hence why it's a fantasy to expect A-League clubs to be building their own stadiums that will be used once a fortnight for half the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, Tesla said: Hence why it's a fantasy to expect A-League clubs to be building their own stadiums that will be used once a fortnight for half the year. Yes, that's true, but that's if you build a stadium that can only be used once a fortnight for half the year. I think it was (now Sir) Elton John, when he became Chairman of Watford in 1976, who first pointed out that you need to have facilities inside or attached to a stadium, other than just a football pitch, that will be used and can generate income seven days a week. And I don't mean sharing the pitch with another code or with rock concerts and monster trucks. If you build a stadium in the right place with passing trade there are a whole lot of opportunities for such as shops, cinema, theatre, restaurants and cafes, gymnasium, pool and so on. If you don't, or can't do that, then you have to go down the line of the kit-type stadium that some clubs have gone for in the UK, or the much simpler designs of some of the MLS stadiums. IIRC AAMI Park cost something like A$257m to build. It's a very nice stadium indeed, but that's a ludicrous amount of money to spend for the usage it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Interestingly enough, on the topic: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/central-coast-mariners-launch-bid-to-become-first-aleague-club-to-own-their-own-stadium-at-gosford/news-story/62512c4340a413342dd4d8f36606dd4a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 14 minutes ago, jw1739 said: IIRC AAMI Park cost something like A$257m to build. It's a very nice stadium indeed, but that's a ludicrous amount of money to spend for the usage it gets. To be fair AAMI has 4 tennants that use it basically every week of the year for matches not to mention the Tards, Storm and now Rebels are all based there. In recent times there have been more and more concerts there (I went and saw the Boss there it was great) and it is also part of the wider "sports precinct" which is just as much about prestige for the city of Melbourne as it is usage. TL;dr I think you're selling AAMI a little short 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 17 minutes ago, GreenSeater said: Interestingly enough, on the topic: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/central-coast-mariners-launch-bid-to-become-first-aleague-club-to-own-their-own-stadium-at-gosford/news-story/62512c4340a413342dd4d8f36606dd4a Let's be real for a second, CCM is a property development business disguised as a soccer club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Until I die Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 45 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: To be fair AAMI has 4 tennants that use it basically every week of the year for matches not to mention the Tards, Storm and now Rebels are all based there. In recent times there have been more and more concerts there (I went and saw the Boss there it was great) and it is also part of the wider "sports precinct" which is just as much about prestige for the city of Melbourne as it is usage. TL;dr I think you're selling AAMI a little short It also has a full time cafe, a sports medicine centre (a business) club shop for victory/storm. A gym and training facilities used by Victory/storm/demons and is home to Victory's admin base Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 29 minutes ago, True Until I die said: It also has a full time cafe, a sports medicine centre (a business) club shop for victory/storm. A gym and training facilities used by Victory/storm/demons and is home to Victory's admin base And a sasauge stand 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Tesla said: Nah, they make a loss renting it, just how things work in Australia. Only stadium built with minimal government subsidisation (at least I think it was minimal) in recent times AFAIK is Etihad and that's probably the most utilised stadium in the country, including being home ground to 5 AFL teams, an A-League team, a cricket team and various miscellaneous events. Hence why it's a fantasy to expect A-League clubs to be building their own stadiums that will be used once a fortnight for half the year. It surprises me that in a country with such a reputation for sport as Australia, stadia don't seem to be profitable endeavours even at the higher levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 3 hours ago, thisphantomfortress said: TL;dr I think you're selling AAMI a little short You're probably right there - I've never had such a high opinion of the place as others seem to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 City Football group to buy AAMI Park one day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 51 minutes ago, Falastur said: It surprises me that in a country with such a reputation for sport as Australia, stadia don't seem to be profitable endeavours even at the higher levels. We dont pay $100+ to see a regular season event though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 19 minutes ago, Chris p said: We dont pay $100+ to see a regular season event though Still, though. There are plenty of football or rugby teams are in England with attendances in the 10,000s who only charge 20 quid a ticket but own their own stadia, and will build them for an 8 figure sum with no subsidies. I'm surprised that it's not the same in the AFL or rugby at least for you guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Falastur said: It surprises me that in a country with such a reputation for sport as Australia, stadia don't seem to be profitable endeavours even at the higher levels. This is true. But we also have a reputation for having systems in place that allow outsiders to regularly dip their hand in the kitty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecguymer Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, Falastur said: It surprises me that in a country with such a reputation for sport as Australia, stadia don't seem to be profitable endeavours even at the higher levels. I suspect that governments keep building half decent stadiums in fairly good locations and then rent them out at presumably reasonable cost for the users probs makes it not worth trying to build your own.....and given you'd have to spend several million to get a site before you apply for permission to build (with no way of knowing if you'll get permission to build)....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 I was surprised that Lowey never thought to build a stadium over the car parking areas at Westfield shopping centres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13 Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Might not really concern MelCity but they say that NYCFC might buy 16 acres outside New York proper to build their training facility... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) 29 minutes ago, M13 said: Might not really concern MelCity but they say that NYCFC might buy 16 acres outside New York proper to build their training facility... Couldn't help but feel disappointed when I heard about that plan. I know it's slightly larger than Melbourne City's current facilities (I have hopes they'll expand in time) but the plan for that NYCFC training facility from what I heard has it only have two pitches along with a gym/admin block. Hardly earth-shattering stuff, especially for a club that is building a full youth programme already extending to four age groups and in time potentially 8-10, and which will probably be launching one and perhaps even two B-teams in the US lower divisions in the coming years. The place they have earmarked isn't even in the city, so there isn't even the excuse of land being in short supply. Edited October 3, 2016 by Falastur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 6 hours ago, Falastur said: Couldn't help but feel disappointed when I heard about that plan. I know it's slightly larger than Melbourne City's current facilities (I have hopes they'll expand in time) but the plan for that NYCFC training facility from what I heard has it only have two pitches along with a gym/admin block. Hardly earth-shattering stuff, especially for a club that is building a full youth programme already extending to four age groups and in time potentially 8-10, and which will probably be launching one and perhaps even two B-teams in the US lower divisions in the coming years. The place they have earmarked isn't even in the city, so there isn't even the excuse of land being in short supply. I understand the intrest in what CFG are doing with other teams under the umbrella, but if im honest i dont care anymore ( I used to ) about NYC or any other team they want to bring in. Its all about Melbourne and not keeping up with the Jones's. For what its worth the US would be huge market for development and can understand if they spend up big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnibari Posted October 19, 2016 Report Share Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Confirmation from Bolton that the CFA is currently being renovated to add a wing for our w-league side. Hopefully it will be done on time for the start of the wleague season. He mentions it about halfway through this discussion about the Roar offering their wleague players one salary earlier in preseason and now offering them less. Bit of a shambles. https://soundcloud.com/sbstheworldgame/w-league-brisbane-roar-pay-cut-clint-bolton-the-situation-is-ridiculous Edited October 19, 2016 by Kinnibari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Share Posted October 20, 2016 On 2016-10-19 at 3:19 AM, Kinnibari said: Confirmation from Bolton that the CFA is currently being renovated to add a wing for our w-league side. Hopefully it will be done on time for the start of the wleague season. He mentions it about halfway through this discussion about the Roar offering their wleague players one salary earlier in preseason and now offering them less. Bit of a shambles. https://soundcloud.com/sbstheworldgame/w-league-brisbane-roar-pay-cut-clint-bolton-the-situation-is-ridiculous I assume that no other Australian club have a "womens wing" in their campus..Or do they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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