Dylan Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 And then there's this... "Van't Schip said the club's Slovenian marquee Koren might not be seen until February."http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2014/11/28/vant-schip-expects-melbourne-citys-fortunes-improve Reading that it seems they made a pretty big leap there, saying he won't play until feb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Polak Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 sack koren 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 And then there's this... "Van't Schip said the club's Slovenian marquee Koren might not be seen until February."http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2014/11/28/vant-schip-expects-melbourne-citys-fortunes-improve  Admittedly, I had a chuckle. But, it seems a bit alarmist, given his quote to end the article.  "Maybe he can be involved in the last games before the (Asian Cup) break," he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Will start training after brisbane game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Typical media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 You have to remember we don't play in January 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Surely CFG could have got us an injury replacement marquee ... fricken ripped off really. At least Duff has been good in terms on international value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 List updated as per end 9 squad list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Unavailable: 10.Robert Koren (Calf – 2 Weeks), 13.Jonatan Germano (Hamstring – 3-4 Weeks), 28.Liam Miller (1 Week)  At http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/a-league-r9-squads-cassio-gets-timely-call-sarota-on-roar-radar-murdocca-returns/story-e6frf4gl-1227145146325 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 sack koren Probably posted tongue in cheek, but may be should be considered? Outside the cap so paying him out isn't a problem from that perspective. After all, what has he done for us so far - didn't even look that impressive in pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 sack koren Probably posted tongue in cheek, but may be should be considered? Outside the cap so paying him out isn't a problem from that perspective. After all, what has he done for us so far - didn't even look that impressive in pre-season. My understanding is we are only allowed 1 marquee per season, thus his replacement would be within the cap. We could however replace him for next year if we could find someone older and more injury prone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014   sack koren Probably posted tongue in cheek, but may be should be considered? Outside the cap so paying him out isn't a problem from that perspective. After all, what has he done for us so far - didn't even look that impressive in pre-season. My understanding is we are only allowed 1 marquee per season, thus his replacement would be within the cap. We could however replace him for next year if we could find someone older and more injury prone.   Cassio will be 35 in January and has been not been getting a game with Adelaide United due to injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Â sack koren Probably posted tongue in cheek, but may be should be considered? Outside the cap so paying him out isn't a problem from that perspective. After all, what has he done for us so far - didn't even look that impressive in pre-season. Â Nobody looked impressive in the pre-season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Injuries are so depressing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Â Â sack koren Probably posted tongue in cheek, but may be should be considered? Outside the cap so paying him out isn't a problem from that perspective. After all, what has he done for us so far - didn't even look that impressive in pre-season. My understanding is we are only allowed 1 marquee per season, thus his replacement would be within the cap. We could however replace him for next year if we could find someone older and more injury prone. Â That marquee rule had slipped my mind. But (given that I don't have to personally pay the contract out!) I still think it should be considered as part of clearing the decks. Â Whether it's bad luck or whatever, our record with most of our 30+ signings is appalling. So, using the "balance of probabilities" criterion, it's a mistake to go sign any more players in that category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 My understanding (based on presentations by sports medical staff) is that injury risk intensifies after 28. Â So having players in their 30s injured can't be called unlucky. Â I'm not against having guys of this age in the team, but you can't have too many of them and you don't want to be relying on them. Â To sign a mid 20s marquee instead would almost certainly require paying a transfer fee and whilst money might be no object at New York or Manchester, this seems to be a problem here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverback Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 I like the irony that we sign Miller as an injury replacement, he plays 1 and 1/2 games and now he's on the injury list.....WTF?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 The other thing to remember is that most professional sportspeople are carrying some sort of long-term injury, even in their 20s and will likely cause trouble from time to time. The big change with >30 year olds though is with recovery time. We are unlikely to have any players without some injury issues at all and neither are any other team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 My understanding (based on presentations by sports medical staff) is that injury risk intensifies after 28. Â So having players in their 30s injured can't be called unlucky. Â I'm not against having guys of this age in the team, but you can't have too many of them and you don't want to be relying on them. Â To sign a mid 20s marquee instead would almost certainly require paying a transfer fee and whilst money might be no object at New York or Manchester, this seems to be a problem here. Â There is no point talking 'in general' this really needs to be considered on a case by case basis. Take for example Germano. Of the right age but injury prone. Compare him to Frank Lampard who is still extremely durable in his mid to late 30's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted December 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 My understanding (based on presentations by sports medical staff) is that injury risk intensifies after 28. So having players in their 30s injured can't be called unlucky. I'm not against having guys of this age in the team, but you can't have too many of them and you don't want to be relying on them. To sign a mid 20s marquee instead would almost certainly require paying a transfer fee and whilst money might be no object at New York or Manchester, this seems to be a problem here. There is no point talking 'in general' this really needs to be considered on a case by case basis. Take for example Germano. Of the right age but injury prone. Compare him to Frank Lampard who is still extremely durable in his mid to late 30's. Frank's just lucky he didn't come here or he'd be injured too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted December 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Was Duff taken off due to injury? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Was Duff taken off due to injury? He appeared to be injured from what I could see. Hopefully not going to be out for "2-3 weeks" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Felt his hamstring apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunheart Posted December 7, 2014 Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 Hopefully not serious. I'd rather not have Ramsay on the pitch at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Duff out until 2015. Ramsay on the wing. Yay. Edited December 10, 2014 by mus-28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Latrobe must be built on the site of an ancient cow burial ground 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interstatefan Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Duff out until 2015. Ramsay on the wing. Yay.  Just what we needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Latrobe must be built on the site of an ancient cow burial ground "When you sold me this house you didn't mention it was built on an ancient Indian burial ground!... NO YOU DIDN'T!...OK then bye. He said he mentioned it several times" 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Duff:Â Â Â Dude, why is your training pitch called "The Indian Burial Ground?" JVS:Â Â Â Well, there was an Indian burial ground here before we bought it. Duff:Â Â Â So you just- built your training facility on top of an Indian burial ground? JVS:Â Â Â Oh, hell no! First I dug up all the bodies, pissed on 'em, then buried them again upside down. Duff:Â Â Â Why? JVS:Â Â Â Why? I don't know. I was drunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 we are the worst club in the league when it comes to injuries by a long, long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014  Duff out until 2015. Ramsay on the wing. Yay.  Just what we needed  Maybe, in fact, just what we do need to tell the club to wake its ideas up and stay away from 30+ players unless they really are top crowd-pullers.  We now have 3 out of our 4 visa players out through injury, and the fourth was dropped for the last match.  Just hastens the inevitable changes in management required for us to be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I really don't think the amount of injuries we have is significantly above average.Or is the problem that it's key players that seem to be always injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I really don't think the amount of injuries we have is significantly above average. Or is the problem that it's key players that seem to be always injured? The stats I saw last season indicated that we were near last on every injury metric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Â I really don't think the amount of injuries we have is significantly above average. Or is the problem that it's key players that seem to be always injured? The stats I saw last season indicated that we were near last on every injury metric. Â Â Last as in we have the least injuries or last as in we are the worst for injuries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 above average injuries, way above average missed games (as in more missed games), way above average recovery times. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) above average injuries, way above average missed games (as in more missed games), way above average recovery times.Interesting, do you have any idea if injuries overall in the A-League are lower than other leagues (eg Europe), there are a lot less games and a shorter season. Because most European clubs seem to have a similar amount of injuries to us. Edited December 10, 2014 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Must be the strength and conditioning coach or the type of training they're doing. Not normal for a player to get injured every 2 weeks. Not normal at all. Fold the conditioning coach. 90% of the problems with this club are behind the scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I know that Aloisi ignored medical advice with Grella's rehab in particular and that this had predictable results. Many of the injuries in the Heart day were attributed to the training pitch but that isn't a factor now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 You can look at some EPL injuries here: http://www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php  I'm not sure what the problem is with us. Is it the number of players injured, or is it the duration of the injuries, or is it both?  I seem to recall a recent comment that the potential problem as a player gets older is not that he is more likely to be injured but that when he is his recovery time will be longer. However, I have just looked at a couple of papers on-line to read that a player's likelihood of injury itself increases with age. For example http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/38/1/36.full  Prima facie it does not appear to be good policy to be recruiting older players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I reckon heat and harder grounds has a lot to do with it in aus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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