Player injuries

[Info@VW]

Sherlock don't be a smart ass, I never said I had an inside source. I know friends of people at the club yes, but not me. This is what I posted first week of June and you laughed at me.

 

Ok I got some good info yesterday from a senior assistant under JVS.

Pre season staying in Australia.

Germano, Hoff, Williams and Redders told to look for clubs otherwise they will be nothing but bench players. (Unless we have big injuries and the are needed.)

We have signed a few players which he was very happy with, all that was told was a new keeper and striker. He didn't want to say to much with them, he just said wait for announcements.

We are not and never were going for Georgevski.

Josh Kennedy sent away on holiday and told to asses his body and make a decision on his own. (Good chance won't play his last year)

Koren is staying (rumored his leaving was all bullshit.)

Dekker from the youth team is going to get a fair chance in pre season. (Striker golden boot)

We are playing Manchester City on the Gold Coast behind closed doors. (That was the CFG's decision.)

Germano staying as injury replacement for Melling, told to find another club.

[Shahanga]

From JVS today, Novillo big doubt for Round 1. Can see him coming off the bench round two against Victory. 

if I've learnt anything in my time watching this club, it's not to believe predictions on injury return. He has a double Germano after all.

can see him coming off the bench in round 6.

[jw1739]

Just what is the issue with Franjic? Hasn't put a foot on the park for us yet, and from what I've seen Retre is doing a good job, and if we sign Callum Richardson then we have two sound players for the RB position.

[Dylan]

Just what is the issue with Franjic? Hasn't put a foot on the park for us yet, and from what I've seen Retre is doing a good job, and if we sign Callum Richardson then we have two sound players for the RB position.

I have heard that Franjic has a few niggles to sort out so they are taking time with him to get it sorted properly. He got injured at the Asian cup and his Russian club treated him poorly in terms of getting proper rehabilitation, oh and of course stopped paying him.

[marn11]

Spoke to Franjic last night. Said he picked up a quad injury at training and might not play round 1.

[KSK_47]

I am having deja vu

[jw1739]

Spoke to Franjic last night. Said he picked up a quad injury at training and might not play round 1.

I am having deja vu

Ed Leng, our new Head of Sports Science, has a mountain to climb with some of our players. The job is shaping up as a poisoned chalice.

[NewConvert]

Ed Leng, our new Head of Sports Science, has a mountain to climb with some of our players. The job is shaping up as a poisoned chalice.

Ahh. But what if he succeeds? Gold statue at the International Sports Science Hall of Fame?

[Shahanga]

Ahh. But what if he succeeds? Gold statue at the International Sports Science Hall of Fame?

No. Just less people on here will call for his sacking.

[jw1739]

So the injury list at the moment appears to be;

Michael Zullo - knock on the knee vs. Wellington and did not play against North Geelong.

Ivan Franjic - apparently a "quad injury" picked up at training (we must leave them lying around); not a single minute so far and doubtful for the start of the season.

Ben Garuccio - ankles. Started at nine weeks which has long since expired and no progress report since then. Germano-esque.

Jacob Melling - knee injury worse than first suspected but apparently three weeks away.

David Williams - no information.

Corey Gameiro - recovering from ACL injury. Close to being back to full training?

Harry Novillo - hamstring in the Wellington game, originally six weeks, doubtful for Round 1.

Marc Marino - right foot injury vs. North Geelong. Apparently on crutches after the match. No information.

James Brown - unspecified injury, no information. Germano-esque.

So by my count we have nine senior squad players out though injury, leaving only 14 fit players to call on for a match-day squad.

[Shahanga]

The more things change.....

[KSK_47]

So the injury list at the moment appears to be;

Michael Zullo - knock on the knee vs. Wellington and did not play against North Geelong.

Ivan Franjic - apparently a "quad injury" picked up at training (we must leave them lying around); not a single minute so far and doubtful for the start of the season.

Ben Garuccio - ankles. Started at nine weeks which has long since expired and no progress report since then. Germano-esque.

Jacob Melling - knee injury worse than first suspected but apparently three weeks away.

David Williams - no information.

Corey Gameiro - recovering from ACL injury. Close to being back to full training?

Harry Novillo - hamstring in the Wellington game, originally six weeks, doubtful for Round 1.

Marc Marino - right foot injury vs. North Geelong. Apparently on crutches after the match. No information.

James Brown - unspecified injury, no information. Germano-esque.

So by my count we have nine senior squad players out though injury, leaving only 14 fit players to call on for a match-day squad.

I am no sport scientist, but you cant have 5 plus years of continuous injury problems like this and put it down to bad luck. People used to say it was because of our shit facilities but it would seem they have not made a difference. What the fuck are we doing to our players?

[belaguttman]

Match day injuries

Zullo

Garuccio

Melling

Williams

Gamiero

Novillo

Marino

Brown

Training injuries:

Franjic

 

I think that we can't blame facilities as unlike a few years ago we have few training injuries. We've had a lot of foot injuries, but so do other clubs and this is related to the low level of foot protection afforded by modern boots. 

[Kinnibari]

From a recent interview with Mooy:
"You do a lot of rehab work at Melbourne City which is great, it keeps you on the park. But I'll do extra stretching or rolling, if it gives me an extra 5 per cent chance of staying fit it's better than nothing."

 http://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-citys-aaron-mooy-looks-to-take-his-chance-in-socceroos-midfield-battle-20150905-gjg1f4.html

So apparently they are trying? God knows.

[jw1739]

Match day injuries

Zullo

Garuccio

Melling

Williams

Gamiero

Novillo

Marino

Brown

Training injuries:

Franjic

 

I think that we can't blame facilities as unlike a few years ago we have few training injuries. We've had a lot of foot injuries, but so do other clubs and this is related to the low level of foot protection afforded by modern boots. 

Nevertheless, I would like to see comparative lists from the other 9 A-League clubs - although I'm pretty sure that would be impossible.

[Dylan]

I think we will have Melling and Gamerio for round 1. I think Zullo not playing against Geelong was just to do with his program. Kuzi is back from getting a hernia cleaned up.

Franjic seems to have things from the asian cup which wernt fixed when he went back to Russia and I think Novillo might be a case of them being ultra cautious. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if the whole club becomes ultra cautious with injuries given the history. 

I remember mooy saying that they have changed the training regime with a focus on 'power' which immediately made me remember Essendon when they brought that dude in from geelong and they had all those soft tissue injuries. Lets hope we can get it right...

 

[Shahanga]

Match day injuries

Zullo

Garuccio

Melling

Williams

Gamiero

Novillo

Marino

Brown

Training injuries:

Franjic

 

I think that we can't blame facilities as unlike a few years ago we have few training injuries. We've had a lot of foot injuries, but so do other clubs and this is related to the low level of foot protection afforded by modern boots. 

To me, Its not so much about "match day" or "training", but rather "impact" or "non-impact".  Impact is a lot harder to avoid.

This season we've had Zullo impact, Franjic & Novillo - non-impact and Merino - not sure.

Gameiro we signed recovering and Garuccio, Brown, Williams & Melling are all in the "still injured" category.

 

[jw1739]

Marino was impact in a tackle as far as I could see - the lights at Port are not too good. And I thought Novillo got a knee in the back of his thigh in the Wellington match.

Whatever, I still think there's also a management issue. For example, Franjic declared himself ready to play against Edgeworth, but JvS insisted he wait a week, and look what happened.

Time will tell whether Leng can do what the previous incumbents could not. IMO injury and injury management will be a significant factor in our competitiveness over the season.

[GreenSeater]

Marino has a torn MCL acvording to his instagram. Having surgery today.

[jw1739]

Marino has a torn MCL acvording to his instagram. Having surgery today.

So, that will be his season over I'd say. The curse continues.

[belaguttman]

Not necessarily. If he only needs a meniscal 'trim' he could be back for the second half of the season.

[haz]

Torn MCL recovery length is about 3 months from surgery, depending on how much rehab you do.

Source: My left and right knees  (Mind that i was in year 12 of high school so I was pretty slack with the rehab)

Edited September 10, 2015 by haz

[Jovan]

Marino has a torn MCL acvording to his instagram. Having surgery today.

Wow. That's terrible. 

[Shahanga]

Wow. That's terrible. 

Echo that. Shocking news for the young bloke.

[Kinnibari]

Yeah and he was having a good game before that.

[jw1739]

Updating:

Injury list at the moment appears to be;

Michael Zullo - knock on the knee vs. Wellington and did not play against North Geelong or Oakleigh.

Ivan Franjic - a "quad injury" picked up at training (we must leave them lying around); not a single minute so far and doubtful for the start of the season.

Ben Garuccio - ankles. Started at nine weeks which has long since expired and no progress report since then. Germano-esque.

Jacob Melling - knee injury worse than first suspected but apparently three weeks away.

David Williams - no information.

Corey Gameiro - recovering from ACL injury. Close to being back to full training?

Harry Novillo - hamstring in the Wellington FFA Cup game, originally six weeks, doubtful for Round 1.

Marc Marino - torn medial cruciate ligament sustained vs. Oakleigh. Estimated minimum time out 3 months.

James Brown - unspecified injury, no information. Germano-esque.

Currently nine senior squad players out though injury.

[belaguttman]

 

Currently nine senior squad players out though injury.

Update: usual injury situation for the team then

[rass]

Rather have these injuries now though, rather than at the business end of the season.

[n i k o]

Gameiro is a few weeks away from training with the team full time. Right now he's feeling 100% recovered but the club physio is holding him back for a few more weeks. 

[pattyd89]

We always have the most injuries. How annoying.

[Deeming]

We always have the most injuries. How annoying.

Good to be #1 for something

[belaguttman]

Rather have these injuries now though, rather than at the business end of the season.

It would be a change of we had a choice, we have always had both!

[Shahanga]

Nine seems our magic number. Had that many last year too.

hard to dress this up well, the way I read it of those 9, only zullo looks ok for round 1, with Gameiro hopeful. Getting  any of the others up will be a bonus.

Having so many injuries before the season has even started is just terrible.

analysis of the forwards is interesting. We have 10 on the books but 6 are injured! Of the remaining 4 one is just coming back from an ACL injury. no wonder young Zinni is getting a game.

[jw1739]

I would think that players such as Zinni and Cristaldo ought to be good for injury-replacement senior contracts. Marino won't be back until at least the second half of the season.

[Defibrillator]

Rather have these injuries now though, rather than at the business end of the season.

The problem with this is that the players don't have a preseason and stay unfit and are more likely to pick up later niggles, and the squad doesn't gel and play good football.  This means we don't make the business end of the season.

[Kinnibari]

Update from the club on Marino. Nothing surprising:

"The Club can also confirm that young striker Marc Marino faces an extended period on the sidelines after undergoing surgery on his MCL (medial collateral ligament) in his knee in a recent pre-season match against North Geelong Warriors."

[jw1739]

Updating:

Injury list at the moment appears to be;

Michael Zullo - knock on knee - no further information. 

Ivan Franjic - quad injury. Doubtful for Round 1.

Ben Garuccio - doubtful for Round 1. 

Jacob Melling - recovered but needs to build up match fitness.

David Williams - appears to be back training, but no information. 

Corey Gameiro - will not be ready for Round 1. 

Harry Novillo - hamstring in the Wellington FFA Cup game, originally six weeks, doubtful for Round 1.

Marc Marino - torn medial cruciate ligament sustained vs. Oakleigh. Estimated minimum time out 3 months.

James Brown - unspecified injury, Hernan Espindola signed as injury replacement.

Aaron Hughes - unspecified.

Currently ten senior squad players out though injury.

[Luke]

That is ridiculous 

[thisphantomfortress]

That is ridiculous 

Don't be so shocked you've had 5 seasons to get used to it.

[Andrew Edmonds]

Updating:

Injury list at the moment appears to be;

Michael Zullo - knock on knee - no further information. 

Ivan Franjic - quad injury. Doubtful for Round 1.

Ben Garuccio - doubtful for Round 1. 

Jacob Melling - recovered but needs to build up match fitness.

David Williams - appears to be back training, but no information. 

Corey Gameiro - will not be ready for Round 1. 

Harry Novillo - hamstring in the Wellington FFA Cup game, originally six weeks, doubtful for Round 1.

Marc Marino - torn medial cruciate ligament sustained vs. Oakleigh. Estimated minimum time out 3 months.

James Brown - unspecified injury, Hernan Espindola signed as injury replacement.

Aaron Hughes - unspecified.

Currently ten senior squad players out though injury.

Watched the club train before family day yesterday, Franjic looked alright, would suspect him to start round 1 or be on bench for sure... Novillo definitely not for round 1 and believe Williams will be on bench.