John Aloisi

[n i k o]

This thread will be pumping come season start. I'm predicting by seasons end it's up to 150 pages.

[Tonyboozeadams]

Can we move this thread to aus football. I want to purge ja from my memory

[mjake1234]

Can we move this thread to aus football. I want to purge ja from my memory

+1

[Parrot]

This hatred of John Aloisi is way, way over the top.

Sure, he didn't succeed with us as a coach. But that doesn't make him a bad person.

So get over it.

Let's also not forget that John Aloisi is a legend of Australian football and will always be remembered for scoring the goal that sent us to the World Cup.  

 

[japiedog]

This hatred of John Aloisi is way, way over the top.

Sure, he didn't succeed with us as a coach. But that doesn't make him a bad person.

So get over it.

Let's also not forget that John Aloisi is a legend of Australian football and will always be remembered for scoring the goal that sent us to the World Cup.  

OK it a bit over the top, but he should have realized that he wasn't up to the standard required and fallen on his sword, I know the owners had hired him etc, but if he was a realist he knew he wasn't A league grade

 

Also , I prefer to remember that Mark Schwarzter saved 2 penalties, that is what got us to the world cup

Edited September 29, 2014 by japiedog

[Tesla]

Let's also not forget that John Aloisi is a legend of Australian football and will always be remembered for scoring the goal that sent us to the World Cup.

What about the others that scored a successful penalty during that shoutout?

Or the bloke that saved a couple of them for us?

I understand there is more pressure taking the crucial one, but Aloisi gets way too much credit.

Edited September 29, 2014 by Tesla

[malloy]

This hatred of John Aloisi is way, way over the top.

Sure, he didn't succeed with us as a coach. But that doesn't make him a bad person.

So get over it.

Let's also not forget that John Aloisi is a legend of Australian football and will always be remembered for scoring the goal that sent us to the World Cup.

Does his selfish, narcissistic attitude whilst in the job make him a bad person?

[Pete Heartspur]

Nah. Just makes him unlucky.

[belaguttman]

Aloisi wasn't the problem, the previous board were more than happy with mediocrity, Aloisi was one of many examples of this.

[Dylan]

This hatred of John Aloisi is way, way over the top.

Sure, he didn't succeed with us as a coach. But that doesn't make him a bad person.

So get over it.

Let's also not forget that John Aloisi is a legend of Australian football and will always be remembered for scoring the goal that sent us to the World Cup.

Schwartzer good cunt.

Aloisi shit cunt

[hakz7]

He was just unlucky as coach... Give him a break.

[sharpy]

I was at the North MelbourneAFL Grand Final breakfast, they were taking the piss out of most guests when introduced but geez I laughed when they introduced JA and finishes with 'and then he was sacked' or something along those lines.

[cadete]

 

This hatred of John Aloisi is way, way over the top.

Sure, he didn't succeed with us as a coach. But that doesn't make him a bad person.

So get over it.

Let's also not forget that John Aloisi is a legend of Australian football and will always be remembered for scoring the goal that sent us to the World Cup.

Does his selfish, narcissistic attitude whilst in the job make him a bad person?

 

FWIW from what I see on Social Media these days Narcissism to many people does not seem to be considered the deplorable character trait that it once was viewed as in the good old days.

[Tonyboozeadams]

Kanye West for coach

[belaguttman]

Kanye West for coach

I'll match your Kanye West and raise you by a Kevin Rudd.

[Tonyboozeadams]

Or Chris pyne

[sheepdog]

Kanye West for coach

I'll match your Kanye West and raise you by a Kevin Rudd. Lebron James.

Checkmate.

[Tonyboozeadams]

Lebron backs it up with skill. Unlike JA

Edited September 29, 2014 by Tonyboozeadams

[Tesla]

Kanye West for coach

Wouldn't take the job.

"IT AIN'T REAL MADRID LEVEL".

"THEY OFFER ME MELBOURNE CITY BUT NOT MANCHESTER CITY. I'M BEING MARGINALISED."

Edited September 29, 2014 by Tesla

[n i k o]

It wasn't johns fault he was given the job. It's his fault the way he carried himself (his ego) as a coach. That is why he is given so much stick on here. And deservedly.

[Tesla]

It wasn't johns fault he was given the job. It's his fault the way he carried himself (his ego) as a coach. That is why he is given so much stick on here. And deservedly.

It's not even just his ego. It's his complete denial of the fact that he just wasn't good enough.

[jw1739]

Good job his name isn't Aloisis. Otherwise you blokes would blame him for WW3.

[Tesla]

Good job his name isn't Aloisis. Otherwise you blokes would blame him for WW3.

Unless he removed the last letter from his name to not raise suspicion?

[n i k o]

It wasn't johns fault he was given the job. It's his fault the way he carried himself (his ego) as a coach. That is why he is given so much stick on here. And deservedly.

It's not even just his ego. It's his complete denial of the fact that he just wasn't good enough.

I though the two go hand in hand regarding him, but anyway, yes complete denial.

[cadete]

Gable Toastie perhaps?

[Dr.Dreas]

aloisi is just a glorified socceroo for 1 penalty.

 

 

an no kanye west is just a gay fish. 

 

(people who watch south park will find that funny, if not dw kinda like you had to be there moment comment sorta thing.) 

[Dylan]

is villa here yet?

[kingofhearts]

 

It wasn't johns fault he was given the job. It's his fault the way he carried himself (his ego) as a coach. That is why he is given so much stick on here. And deservedly.

It's not even just his ego. It's his complete denial of the fact that he just wasn't good enough.

 

Spot fucking on :clap: (owe you a like)

 

The fact that he is still working in this industry as a 'special comments' commentator astounds me. I've never seen a bloke do so poorly in his industry and for him to keep getting jobs in it. Imagine if any of us was as bad at their job as he was, we would never be allowed in our industry ever again.

 

Still makes me laugh to this day though that game where we lost to Brisbane 3-0 and he came out and said how happy he was with our performance. What a moron

 

He's dead to me

Edited September 29, 2014 by kingofhearts

[Shahanga]

I see "he who must not be named" has predicted a top two finish for us.  Damn - does this mean we will get the wooden spoon again?

[Jestr]

"He who must not be named" is dead to me.

But I have to say I can't wait to see what losers will offer him a head coach position next

Going to grow corn in back yard

What giant LOL it will be.

[Torn Asunder]

JA once said ...

"Now I do not know whether I was then an A-league coach dreaming I was a commentator, or whether I am now a commentator, dreaming I am an A-league coach."

[n i k o]

He's definitely dreaming he's any good at either one of those professions.

[Tonyboozeadams]

What pissed me off about aloisi is that he continues to feel hard done by about his sacking. How anyone in thevworld can expect to keep his job after failing to Win a match for more than half a season is beyond me. We wouldn't have won a game if he stayed on either.

Fucking moron

[Attack11]

To me JA the coach will always have a black mark against him. Applying for a job your not qualified to do and then blaming everyone's else for your failure was the worse thing he could have done so early in his coaching career.

He lit truly could not explain the disaster that was happening. I could never forgive him for bringing our club to its knees.. We were the laughing stoke of the league ...

Thankfully those days are over!!!!

[KD.]

#AloisiOutOfFoxSports

[MHFCROB24]

So what is his role on foxsports? commentator? Special comments at the games? or does he just stay at fox studio and review the games?

[Tonyboozeadams]

He probably rolls out a swag and sleeps under the desk

[jw1739]

To me JA the coach will always have a black mark against him. Applying for a job your not qualified to do and then blaming everyone's else for your failure was the worse thing he could have done so early in his coaching career.

He lit truly could not explain the disaster that was happening. I could never forgive him for bringing our club to its knees.. We were the laughing stoke of the league ...

Thankfully those days are over!!!!

I'm slightly less critical of JA than many others seem to be. Yes he applied for a job for which he was not qualified, but it was the Board who appointed him, and the present and continuing CEO would have had some input as well. I also think that there's little doubt that the players were not helping change the cultural issues at the club.

 

Nevertheless, JA's record speaks for itself. It has not done either the club or JA himself any favours. From the club's perspective the damage is on the record books, but more important than that IMO are the legacy issues that have been left - the perceptions that the public and media have about Melbourne Heart/City. I still think that we have a lot of work to do to to build ourselves up so that we are not seen as a poor relation both in this city and in the A-League itself.

Edited October 1, 2014 by jw1739

[wombegongal]

 

To me JA the coach will always have a black mark against him. Applying for a job your not qualified to do and then blaming everyone's else for your failure was the worse thing he could have done so early in his coaching career.

He lit truly could not explain the disaster that was happening. I could never forgive him for bringing our club to its knees.. We were the laughing stoke of the league ...

Thankfully those days are over!!!!

I'm slightly less critical of JA than many others seem to be. Yes he applied for a job for which he was not qualified, but it was the Board who appointed him, and the present and continuing CEO would have had some input as well. I also think that there's little doubt that the players were not helping change the cultural issues at the club.

 

Nevertheless, JA's record speaks for itself. It has not done either the club or JA himself any favours. From the club's perspective the damage is on the record books, but more important than that IMO are the legacy issues that have been left - the perceptions that the public and media have about Melbourne Heart/City. I still think that we have a lot of work to do to to build ourselves up so that we are not seen as a poor relation both in this city and in the A-League itself.

 

I agree with you. It really was a perfect storm of factors that led us down this path. A lot of poor decisions on the part of various individuals throughout the club, from the board, to the CEO, coach and players. Or maybe we were just unlucky?

[KSK_47]

To me JA the coach will always have a black mark against him. Applying for a job your not qualified to do and then blaming everyone's else for your failure was the worse thing he could have done so early in his coaching career.

He lit truly could not explain the disaster that was happening. I could never forgive him for bringing our club to its knees.. We were the laughing stoke of the league ...

Thankfully those days are over!!!!

I'm slightly less critical of JA than many others seem to be. Yes he applied for a job for which he was not qualified, but it was the Board who appointed him, and the present and continuing CEO would have had some input as well. I also think that there's little doubt that the players were not helping change the cultural issues at the club.

 

Nevertheless, JA's record speaks for itself. It has not done either the club or JA himself any favours. From the club's perspective the damage is on the record books, but more important than that IMO are the legacy issues that have been left - the perceptions that the public and media have about Melbourne Heart/City. I still think that we have a lot of work to do to to build ourselves up so that we are not seen as a poor relation both in this city and in the A-League itself.

It's a combination of both for me. I completely agree that giving him the job because people know his name was such a ridiculous decision it still boggles the mind as to how that actually happened. Throwing him in the deep end and expecting him to swim was completely unfair.

But as Tesla rightly pointed out not so long ago, the fact that the guy takes absolutely no accountability for it and feels like he has something to offer as a top level coach is equally as baffling.

It's pretty much a perfect summary of how this club conducted itself in the past.