jw1739 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Not a bad signing for your first-up marquee. Making a strong start - just a pity they plan to play in Geelong for a while. https://www.a-league.com.au/news/signing-news-western-melbourne-group-announce-greek-international-marquee-signing Wonder how many South supporters will defect to the new boys? Edited February 14, 2019 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missing_Moy Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 They've missed a huge opportunity if they haven't tried to Sign Bruno I reckon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 He won't have played a competitive game of football in over a year by the time the next A-League season kicks off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 I'd never heard of him so i dont think he's that impressive a signing tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Quote marconi101 - 1 Feb 2019 12:29 PM Apparently 'Westside Pride' has been registered as IP Oh dear. Seems it has: https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/1986718?q=westside+pride Oh dear indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Should be WOW Fc (West of Westgate) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Also registered were: Western Melbourne Athletic FC Western Athletic FC Western Melbourne Warriors FC and Western United FC An online competition will start on Sunday to name the club: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/competitions/name-the-new-western-melbourne-aleague-team-for-your-chance-to-win/news-story/73e7e6c09e1ed8019a71d0b8c5b3833b Edited February 1, 2019 by NuggetsMcGreggor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 52 minutes ago, NuggetsMcGreggor said: Also registered were: Western Melbourne Athletic FC Western Athletic FC Western Melbourne Warriors FC and Western United FC An online competition will start on Sunday to name the club: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/competitions/name-the-new-western-melbourne-aleague-team-for-your-chance-to-win/news-story/73e7e6c09e1ed8019a71d0b8c5b3833b Wyndham Vale Athletic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Shouldn't have "west" in it at all. Doesn't show any lateral thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Does anyone have any ideas about the colours? Wait a minute...... Edited February 1, 2019 by Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Dylan said: Does anyone have any ideas about the colours? Wait a minute...... CFG praying for this so they have an an excuse not to wear red and white anymore. Is that too cynical? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 2, 2019 Report Share Posted February 2, 2019 So I did the form. Put another name. ‘West Melbourne Athletic’ instead of Western Melbourne Athletic, thought it was the best of the bunch. Picked white for the colour. I actually think they should be black and white but what ever. anyway not going to support them. But I want them to succeed and get their stadium to set a precedent. At least it might give CFG a kick up the ass. I still think once you support a club you really can’t let that go and support another, just not the same IMO. Happened with my AFL club, Fitzroy since I was a kid, did try to move to another few over the years and just reiterated my opinion that can’t do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I’m hoping for the name Western Athletic FC to get up. Playing in a white kit with a small bit of green would be good, too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 (edited) So green and black. At least it's not red and white. https://www.goal.com/en-au/news/western-melbourne-set-lock-in-team-name-and-colours-report/1gyj95i2bmob01y0lxgnlvp75o Edited February 11, 2019 by Tony999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Team11 looked as though they were going for green and black too. Western Athletic is the best of a bad lot I'd say. When you look at leagues around the world you see plenty of names that bring a touch of excitement and glamour to mind - we seem be so limited for choice here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 9 hours ago, jw1739 said: Team11 looked as though they were going for green and black too. Western Athletic is the best of a bad lot I'd say. When you look at leagues around the world you see plenty of names that bring a touch of excitement and glamour to mind - we seem be so limited for choice here. Bit cheeky pinching their colour scheme i would have thought, esp given they said they'd continue to bid. That's life though i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dconder13 Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Signed Josh Risdon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Western Athletic is the best name if you want to have a support that is outside of Melbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 On 08/02/2019 at 11:35 AM, Harrison said: I’m hoping for the name Western Athletic FC to get up. Playing in a white kit with a small bit of green would be good, too. Happy with the name but not a fan of green and black. Green and white would've been better IMO. They couldn't have Melbourne in the name and they couldn't use a suburban name. 'Western' covers the entirety of the West and also gives them a clear point of difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Harrison said: Happy with the name but not a fan of green and black. Green and white would've been better IMO. They couldn't have Melbourne in the name and they couldn't use a suburban name. 'Western' covers the entirety of the West and also gives them a clear point of difference. Well there's a counter arguement to that. Why couldn't they use a suburban name? They want to encompass the whole west so everyone can feel represented. FFAs mandate is any new bids had to reach a pool of over 1 million people. However how many will turn up to games regularly? 5-15k? What if they went the local suburban route and set up in a big suburb with a high population with a big football community? Let's say Werribee with it 250k population. Or at the very least let the club represent the Wyndham region. Call it Wyndham Athletic. This whole generic representation is not how clubs and football has worked in its entire history. Football has established itself in the world because of local suburban passion for their city/suburb they live in. The FFA have got the whole thing wrong again and this club will most likely fail to live up to any great heights as well. Edited February 12, 2019 by n i k o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, n i k o said: Well there's a counter arguement to that. Why couldn't they use a suburban name? They want to encompass the whole west so everyone can feel represented. FFAs mandate is any new bids had to reach a pool of over 1 million people. However how many will turn up to games regularly? 5-15k? What if they went the local suburban route and set up in a big suburb with a high population with a big football community? Let's say Werribee with it 250k population. Or at the very least let the club represent the Wyndham region. Call it Wyndham Athletic. This whole generic regional representation is not how clubs and football has worked in its entire history. Football has established itself in the world because of local suburban passion for their city/suburb they live in. The FFA have got the whole thing wrong again and this club will most likely fail to live up to any great heights as well. Look I tend to agree with the bolded. Appealing to specific, geographical-cultural regions has been the way football has established itself. In an ideal world, this would've been the way that the A-League developed. If we had our time over again, we should've gone for three Sydney teams in the north, south and west and two Melbourne teams in the south-east and perhaps the north-west. Perhaps they would've truly embedded themselves in the communities and grown a very passionate fan-base that could sustain a professional club. However, we have to look at the realities here. We already have two Melbourne teams representing/competing for the entirety of metropolitan Melbourne. Fox (the funder of the league) want an audience in the millions for any bid and so a team representing a suburb (even a relatively large group of suburbs) would not reach that criterion. I think your figures are a bit off though mate. Werribee has a population of 40,000 and the City of Wyndham (which encompasses Werribee and other suburbs) has a population of 217,000. Plus, Western Athletic will be playing out of Geelong for two seasons, possibly more. Asking the remaining, non-Victory-supporting Geelong football fans to support a Werribee team would be a very hard sell. At least this way they can attract everyone in that bigger region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDM3 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 If we're looking at long term expansion you would think Canberra and a Tasmanian team would be coming in, by the time the comp expand's to 16 teams. So wearing green doesn't really make sense to me. Should've gone with red and white or black and white, and leave green for Canberra and Tasmania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, n i k o said: Well there's a counter arguement to that. Why couldn't they use a suburban name? They want to encompass the whole west so everyone can feel represented. FFAs mandate is any new bids had to reach a pool of over 1 million people. However how many will turn up to games regularly? 5-15k? What if they went the local suburban route and set up in a big suburb with a high population with a big football community? Let's say Werribee with it 250k population. Or at the very least let the club represent the Wyndham region. Call it Wyndham Athletic. This whole generic representation is not how clubs and football has worked in its entire history. Football has established itself in the world because of local suburban passion for their city/suburb they live in. The FFA have got the whole thing wrong again and this club will most likely fail to live up to any great heights as well. The whole question of naming is a good discussion point. I feel that we're very narrow in our thinking. If you look into the history of club names - just pick a few that appeal to you personally - their origins are extremely interesting in many cases. Often the name the club is commonly known by is not the full name of it - PSV Eindhoven being an excellent example. I too would use the name of the City of Wyndham if that's where the stadium is going to be. Wyndham Athletic or AFC Wyndham would be fine with me. I know my wife is going to ask me "Where do they come from?" every we time we play Western Athletic, just as she does with Central Coast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Western United... what a nothing name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 One thing I do envy with the new boys, though, is the opportunity for WMG to have their own stadium and for that to be a focal point for supporters in terms of having a supporters club with bar/restaurant/cafe etc. and other facilities such as gym, so that supporters have an opportunity to really feel that they are part of a genuine club. We just don't have that with City. We just go to watch matches and there's fuck all connection after that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhitePride Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 It's a big difference, and one I was just thinking about actually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhitePride Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Legit, what chances do people think there are of CFG just biting the bullet and building their own 15-20k stadium? I know it's probably unlikely but surely with Western United having their own stadium will make them realise the benefits of owning your own stadium etc. Not sure where you'd build it, but in an ideal world it would happen, leaving AAMI Park to the scum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 shit name, shit colors, shit marquee #bringbackfury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 7 hours ago, Harrison said: Look I tend to agree with the bolded. Appealing to specific, geographical-cultural regions has been the way football has established itself. In an ideal world, this would've been the way that the A-League developed. If we had our time over again, we should've gone for three Sydney teams in the north, south and west and two Melbourne teams in the south-east and perhaps the north-west. Perhaps they would've truly embedded themselves in the communities and grown a very passionate fan-base that could sustain a professional club. However, we have to look at the realities here. We already have two Melbourne teams representing/competing for the entirety of metropolitan Melbourne. Fox (the funder of the league) want an audience in the millions for any bid and so a team representing a suburb (even a relatively large group of suburbs) would not reach that criterion. I think your figures are a bit off though mate. Werribee has a population of 40,000 and the City of Wyndham (which encompasses Werribee and other suburbs) has a population of 217,000. Plus, Western Athletic will be playing out of Geelong for two seasons, possibly more. Asking the remaining, non-Victory-supporting Geelong football fans to support a Werribee team would be a very hard sell. At least this way they can attract everyone in that bigger region. My mistake I got those figure mixed up and meant to say the whole of the Wyndham region with reference to that figure. However the population figure off the Wyndham council website is 250,186. With the bolded areas above I would say firstly there's the issue that Fox is dictating chosen teams for viewing rather than membership bases. Secondly I work out of Geelong sometimes and I know people there generally like to not associate themselves with anything 'Melbourne.' So Victorys impact on membership would be minimal to nil. Again it comes back to my example of having a smaller represented region which would quite possibly equal more bums on seats during games. Having the whole west represented by one club is another mistake in a long line of mistakes that have been made by the FFA. 20 minutes ago, RedAndWhitePride said: Legit, what chances do people think there are of CFG just biting the bullet and building their own 15-20k stadium? 0% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, RedAndWhitePride said: Legit, what chances do people think there are of CFG just biting the bullet and building their own 15-20k stadium? TBH, based on what we've seen from CFG after they built CFA, and Marwood's most-recent comments about "return on investment"...absolutely no chance of it ever happening. I know that Western's stadium is to be financed through land sales, but there's a huge risk that it may be a white elephant nevertheless. For example, if relegation is introduced and Western go down to the second division. Or they fail to draw many fans. City is a perfect example of doing a few things wrong and seeing support drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, jw1739 said: TBH, based on what we've seen from CFG after they built CFA, and Marwood's most-recent comments about "return on investment"...absolutely no chance of it ever happening. I know that Western's stadium is to be financed through land sales, but there's a huge risk that it may be a white elephant nevertheless. For example, if relegation is introduced and Western go down to the second division. Or they fail to draw many fans. City is a perfect example of doing a few things wrong and seeing support drop. Not sure if you've read but they've had their backers pull out recently and now the stadium plans is on hold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 11 hours ago, n i k o said: Not sure if you've read but they've had their backers pull out recently and now the stadium plans is on hold @n i k o No, I haven't read that. Could you give me the reference(s) please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 So it’s actually Western United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) The more I think about it, especially if the stadium deal has a possibility of not going ahead, I don't know why this club isn't going to be based in the existing population centre of Geelong and called Football and Sports Club of Geelong - FASC Geelong for short - (or something like that). It's going to play out of Geelong for at least two seasons as it is. Edited February 13, 2019 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted February 13, 2019 Report Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) Great chance for Western United FC who play in the Vic Churches league and are based in Tarneit to cash in and get some big dollars to re-brand. edit: they moved to FFV and changed their name to Wyndham United on January 22nd. Opportunity missed. Edited February 13, 2019 by mus-28 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-cup-winning-owner-backs-new-a-league-club-western-united-20190213-p50xgc.html So we've finally found out who's behind the bid...a wealthy Australian property developer who owns race horses. United are also going with green and black stripes, which could look all right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 13/02/2019 at 0:47 PM, jw1739 said: The more I think about it, especially if the stadium deal has a possibility of not going ahead, I don't know why this club isn't going to be based in the existing population centre of Geelong and called Football and Sports Club of Geelong - FASC Geelong for short - (or something like that). It's going to play out of Geelong for at least two seasons as it is. Talking to @bt50 the other night, he was saying that one of the backers was potentially setting it up so that if the property developments fell through, then the team would just become a Geelong team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) As soon as I saw the poll was put on the herald sum website...immediately thought, we have another Heart on our hands... I actually cannot remember how the process was done with Heart, but I do remember one poll? Someone remind me. Edited February 14, 2019 by Dylan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) On 2/13/2019 at 1:35 PM, mus-28 said: Great chance for Western United FC who play in the Vic Churches league and are based in Tarneit to cash in and get some big dollars to re-brand. edit: they moved to FFV and changed their name to Wyndham United on January 22nd. Opportunity missed. Do you still get sent off for swearing in the Churches League? Edited February 14, 2019 by Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 (edited) Quote In 18 months, as Football Federation Australia completes its expansion with a second team in Melbourne for the 2010-11 season, Melbourne Victory will have a competitor in its own backyard. A consortium headed by publishing and racing identity Peter Sidwell has won the negotiating rights for this licence and is expected to be given formal approval within months. In an exclusive interview with The Sun-day Age Sidwell talks with chief soccer writer Michael Lynch about the challenges facing the group, how it will win fans, where it will be based, what it could be called. Sunday Age: Will the club be called Melbourne Heart? During the bid process, and subsequently, you have used that working title, but I have also heard speculation it may be called Melbourne City. Peter Sidwell: There are legal implications (in using) the name Melbourne Heart, so that might not actually be the name we go for. The probable outcome is that we will have a different name when we go out on the field. Where will the club be based? The talk has been of the Cranbourne/Berwick/Dandenong area so it can plug into one of the fastest-growing demographic regions in the country - the city of Casey and surrounds. That hasn't been determined. The identification of Cranbourne is about Casey Fields. We have been speaking to the people there, but we also want to make sure our profile in Melbourne is solid. It's a balancing consideration lel Jan 18 2009 Edited February 14, 2019 by Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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