Sash Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) I don't think there's any 'news' in that article. He's out of contract at the end of the season. Roar might make him an offer. We might also make him an offer, especially if he continues his current form and wins the golden boot. Others can make an offer too. Personally, I hate seeing any of our players at other A League clubs. Unless they've been shit. Which Willo hasn't. Not that he's been great either. But judging players' performance under JA is a bit tricky. Edited February 21, 2014 by Sash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well he has an inform card on FIFA 14 worth about 700,000 on PS3, which is more expensive than an inform Van Persie, inform Benzema and inform Diego Costa so judging by this information and my own personal expertise I don't think he'll stay in the A-league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well, just putting this back where it belongs: Can't wait to see him in Orange again next season... Beautiful . http://www.foxsports...l-1226833580847 Given that there's a moratorium on Heart signings I'm assuming that also includes re-signings, so it doesn't surprise me that Williams has not been offered a contract for next season. Anyway, apart from that, IMO he's on far too much (rumoured $375,000) for what he has delivered over the three years he's been with us. His main asset is his speed, which at his age is not going to last much longer, and he's really not much different from a couple of others we have on our books who are speedsters. Given that we're almost certainly looking at a different style of play in the future, it's inevitable that some of the current squad are going to leave. Personally won't be too fussed if he moves on. How can you say that there is a moratorium on re-signings when recently Hoffman and Velaphi were given new contracts? Furthermore there is the rumoured contract with Mooy who would be a new signing - AFAIK no one has denied the existence of this contract. Personally I would rather the club have signed Williams ahead of Hoffman but I presume that next season will show the folly of re-signing Hoffman. I have seen it stated that the Mooy deal was consummated before the change in ownership. The Hoffman and Velaphi re-signings have not been confirmed, and even if they have been done it's not clear just when that occurred. It's my clear understanding that there is currently a moratorium in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 We are finally starting to see the ability this man has. Now is the time to hang on to him. As you've seen though, despite only being there 5 min, is a favourite son in Brisbane. I expect they will be very interested and Mulvey seems to have even admitted as much. Mind you long way to go in season. He keeps scoring every week he won't be playing in the A League next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Well we won't give him a pay rise, he'll demand one if he ends up with 15+ goals. Points to him leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Honestly the bloke should re-sign for 12 months on minimum to make up for that first season he had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Craig Moore says David Williams can make impact for the Socceroos if he gets the call Craig Moore February 23, 2014 DAVID Williams has starred for Melbourne Heart for the past three weeks. Now it’s a matter of him maintaining his form for the rest of the season, not only for his club’s sake, but also for his own hopes of making Australia’s FIFA World Cup squad. The importance of being consistent is too often overlooked by players. Being effective, not necessarily a standout, every week is crucial for your team and your own individual targets. Williams knows this. He has been through plenty of ups and downs in a career that seemed destined for international success when he joined Danish giants Brondby as an 18-year-old. But not all went to plan for the Queenslander. Maybe he had too many people telling him how good he was, and as a youngster, he was probably homesick. Sometimes players need to be told the truth rather than be consistently complimented. A dose of honest reality can often be the making of a young player, particularly when all they have previously heard is about how great they are. At 25, Williams is still young enough to make a major impact at club and international level. And let’s hope he can. There has never been any doubting his talent, and we have seen more than a glimpse of it via his five goals in his past three matches. He’s an excitement machine, and it’s now his challenge to retain his form over a longer period of time. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/craig-moore-says-david-williams-can-make-impact-for-the-socceroos-if-he-gets-the-call/story-fni2wcjl-1226834822139 Edited February 22, 2014 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoarFan Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Craig Moore says David Williams can make impact for the Socceroos if he gets the call Craig Moore February 23, 2014 DAVID Williams has starred for Melbourne Heart for the past three weeks. Now it’s a matter of him maintaining his form for the rest of the season, not only for his club’s sake, but also for his own hopes of making Australia’s FIFA World Cup squad. The importance of being consistent is too often overlooked by players. Being effective, not necessarily a standout, every week is crucial for your team and your own individual targets. Williams knows this. He has been through plenty of ups and downs in a career that seemed destined for international success when he joined Danish giants Brondby as an 18-year-old. But not all went to plan for the Queenslander. Maybe he had too many people telling him how good he was, and as a youngster, he was probably homesick. Sometimes players need to be told the truth rather than be consistently complimented. A dose of honest reality can often be the making of a young player, particularly when all they have previously heard is about how great they are. At 25, Williams is still young enough to make a major impact at club and international level. And let’s hope he can. There has never been any doubting his talent, and we have seen more than a glimpse of it via his five goals in his past three matches. He’s an excitement machine, and it’s now his challenge to retain his form over a longer period of time. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/craig-moore-says-david-williams-can-make-impact-for-the-socceroos-if-he-gets-the-call/story-fni2wcjl-1226834822139 He won't get anywhere near the NT until he makes the inevitable move to Brisbane and then plays to his potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 Craig Moore says David Williams can make impact for the Socceroos if he gets the call Craig Moore February 23, 2014DAVID Williams has starred for Melbourne Heart for the past three weeks. Now it’s a matter of him maintaining his form for the rest of the season, not only for his club’s sake, but also for his own hopes of making Australia’s FIFA World Cup squad. The importance of being consistent is too often overlooked by players. Being effective, not necessarily a standout, every week is crucial for your team and your own individual targets. Williams knows this. He has been through plenty of ups and downs in a career that seemed destined for international success when he joined Danish giants Brondby as an 18-year-old. But not all went to plan for the Queenslander. Maybe he had too many people telling him how good he was, and as a youngster, he was probably homesick. Sometimes players need to be told the truth rather than be consistently complimented. A dose of honest reality can often be the making of a young player, particularly when all they have previously heard is about how great they are. At 25, Williams is still young enough to make a major impact at club and international level. And let’s hope he can. There has never been any doubting his talent, and we have seen more than a glimpse of it via his five goals in his past three matches. He’s an excitement machine, and it’s now his challenge to retain his form over a longer period of time. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/craig-moore-says-david-williams-can-make-impact-for-the-socceroos-if-he-gets-the-call/story-fni2wcjl-1226834822139 He won't get anywhere near the NT until he makes the inevitable move to Brisbane and then plays to his potential lol, good luck with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 As amazing as willo has been for the prior three games I have to point out that this is the stuff he has to clean up if he has any chance of making the World Cup short list. That potential berisha equalizer yesterday began because of an extremely poor and heavy touch from willo that pushed the ball back towards our goal and into the waiting feet of the roar. I love what he's done over the last month and think he deserves every credit possible for it but for improvement sake his touch on the he ball needs to be better, and I beleive that that's what jvs meant by willo "bringing more." Unfortunately at his age improvement may be marginal at best. I reckon we're seeing the best we will of the guy. I hope more than anything I'm wrong. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 As amazing as willo has been for the prior three games I have to point out that this is the stuff he has to clean up if he has any chance of making the World Cup short list. That potential berisha equalizer yesterday began because of an extremely poor and heavy touch from willo that pushed the ball back towards our goal and into the waiting feet of the roar. I love what he's done over the last month and think he deserves every credit possible for it but for improvement sake his touch on the he ball needs to be better, and I beleive that that's what jvs meant by willo "bringing more." Unfortunately at his age improvement may be marginal at best. I reckon we're seeing the best we will of the guy. I hope more than anything I'm wrong. Spot on. That was right in front of me. It was more like a 10m pass than a first touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 As amazing as willo has been for the prior three games I have to point out that this is the stuff he has to clean up if he has any chance of making the World Cup short list. That potential berisha equalizer yesterday began because of an extremely poor and heavy touch from willo that pushed the ball back towards our goal and into the waiting feet of the roar. I love what he's done over the last month and think he deserves every credit possible for it but for improvement sake his touch on the he ball needs to be better, and I beleive that that's what jvs meant by willo "bringing more." Unfortunately at his age improvement may be marginal at best. I reckon we're seeing the best we will of the guy. I hope more than anything I'm wrong. Spot on. That was right in front of me. It was more like a 10m pass than a first touch. LOL i logged in to post this exact thing. He could have cost us the game. I would not be surprised if JVS saw it too and we find Williams sitting on the bench with Kewell in his place. Not good enough Willo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentonthescreamingcactus Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Williams should always start on the bench he is simply not good enough to play the majority of the 90, he is much more effective off the bench with his pace late on in games as we saw against the smurfs and perth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Indeed, plus Kewell up front against an inexperienced, out of form backline is too much to pass up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 That Williams mistake totally brought back bad memories of the Christmas derby last season (it was him that gave it away, right?). When it happened on Sunday I though uh oh here we go again, but thank goodness it turned out differently this time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Pretty sure your on the money there Natalie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 25, 2014 Report Share Posted February 25, 2014 Pretty sure your on the money there Natalie She's absolutely right. He tried a silly little flick pass that was intercepted by a Victory player who put Thompson away for the winner in the last minute. All Williams had to do was blast the ball towards the Victory goal - he might have even scored - and we would have eaten up the remaining seconds and come away with a point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Did anyone watch the b-league sketch about him and his all stars call up? Genuinely roffed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTD/MLBHRT/ESSNDON Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 That was gold! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 First Heart player to score 10 in a season. Well in son Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Nah, sorry I'm done with Williams. Nearly sold a team mate for another Berisha/ Archie moment. Missed open goal opportunities- the guy should really be close to 20 goals this season. Sorry Willo, when you're hot, your'e hot but we see that 1 every 10 games, not good enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted March 1, 2014 Report Share Posted March 1, 2014 Good goal, but still inconsistent. Then again what striker in the a league this season is consistent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxandro Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 I'm not a Williams fan but I think it's unfair to judge his tally over the whole season. Let's judge it from when JVS took over to the end of the season. And all strikers miss sitters. Can't believe I'm defending him but all I'm asking for is a bit of logic. 10 goals when half the season you're played out of position and JA was coaching is actually pretty damn good. And there's still however many games left. Damnit I hate defending him because his drives me nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 i rate him in this league... GUN 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Give him credit for the assist to Engelaar too. Nice flick on. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Needs a decent haircut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Needs a decent haircut NOOOOO. When he had a 'decent haircut' his playing ability was really terrible. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 needs longer hair imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Nah, sorry I'm done with Williams. Nearly sold a team mate for another Berisha/ Archie moment. Missed open goal opportunities- the guy should really be close to 20 goals this season. Sorry Willo, when you're hot, your'e hot but we see that 1 every 10 games, not good enough. Right on the money. Been better under JVS the best thing he could do is sign for big money else where imho. Can do much better in his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victards Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 His touches and holding up play are well below standard. If we're going to have someone constantly offering to hold the ball up and feed it onto our wingers, we need a bigger body and someone who is technically better than Williams as his touches are shocking 8 out of 10 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thespuddaman Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 I think people are being overly harsh on Williams and possibly also Ramsay. They aren't the most technically gifted players, that's for sure, but off the ball, along with Dugandzic, they play a very important role, drawing defenders away, and creating space for Engelaar and later Kewell to dictate the game. Their pressure when we don't have the ball is very good as well. Just out of interest, I compared Williams and Troisi, and while their attacking stats are actually very similar, Williams' defensive stats (tackles, interceptions etc) far outshine Troisi's. Defence starts from the top, and I think one of the most important parts of the team's resurgence has been the defensive pressure that for the most part simply wasn't there. Ideally Williams would be better off as an impact sub, but for now, he should keep his spot in the team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Some of you ppl. Get rid of league top scorer? So we can play who up front? Mifsud? Give me a break. Willo should be knighted ffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 I think people are being overly harsh on Williams and possibly also Ramsay. They aren't the most technically gifted players, that's for sure, but off the ball, along with Dugandzic, they play a very important role, drawing defenders away, and creating space for Engelaar and later Kewell to dictate the game. Their pressure when we don't have the ball is very good as well. Just out of interest, I compared Williams and Troisi, and while their attacking stats are actually very similar, Williams' defensive stats (tackles, interceptions etc) far outshine Troisi's. Defence starts from the top, and I think one of the most important parts of the team's resurgence has been the defensive pressure that for the most part simply wasn't there. Ideally Williams would be better off as an impact sub, but for now, he should keep his spot in the team. As I've said in the Engelaar thread it's not going to be possible to improve the squad to chase silverware and keep all the present players. IMO we need more central striking options than just Williams, and he's just one of a number of players who will pose a dilemma for the club come season's end. It looked as though it was going to be a lot easier when we were anchored on four points... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) We've already got room to bring in 2 or 3 forwards to replace Macallister, Gol Gol and Mifsud who won't be around next year. I think Williams has been pretty good this year and can at least be a damaging impact player off the bench for us, and at his age still has room to grow as a footballer. But if we offer him a contract, it probably needs to contain a pay cut. I reckon how that compares with other contract offers and playing opportunities elsewhere might determine where he plays next year. But for now, let's enjoy the goals and hopefully our first golden boot winner. Edited March 2, 2014 by Sash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Anyone who thinks a double digit A-League striker in his mid-twenties is going to take a pay-cut needs thier head checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 We've already got room to bring in 2 or 3 forwards to replace Macallister, Gol Gol and Mifsud who won't be around next year. I think Williams has been pretty good this year and can at least be a damaging impact player off the bench for us, and at his age still has room to grow as a footballer. But if we offer him a contract, it probably needs to contain a pay cut. I reckon how that compares with other contract offers and playing opportunities elsewhere might determine where he plays next year. But for now, let's enjoy the goals and hopefully our first golden boot winner. You don't honestly believe that, do you? The blokes 26 and has the heaviest touch i have ever seen, how much more growth can there be for him? Sure, he'll have a good game every now and than but if we want to be a juggernaut we should be aiming for excellence in every position instead of going for players who are just 'serviceble' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Anyone who thinks a double digit A-League striker in his mid-twenties is going to take a pay-cut needs thier head checked. He might have to unless someone thinks he's worthy of an Australian marquee spot, or is prepared to devote a decent amount of cap space. Somebody else might but I doubt we will. Edited March 2, 2014 by Sash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicalcharlie Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 GUN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 We've already got room to bring in 2 or 3 forwards to replace Macallister, Gol Gol and Mifsud who won't be around next year. I think Williams has been pretty good this year and can at least be a damaging impact player off the bench for us, and at his age still has room to grow as a footballer. But if we offer him a contract, it probably needs to contain a pay cut. I reckon how that compares with other contract offers and playing opportunities elsewhere might determine where he plays next year. But for now, let's enjoy the goals and hopefully our first golden boot winner. You don't honestly believe that, do you? The blokes 26 and has the heaviest touch i have ever seen, how much more growth can there be for him? Sure, he'll have a good game every now and than but if we want to be a juggernaut we should be aiming for excellence in every position instead of going for players who are just 'serviceble' His touch will not get an better. He seems he was coached to his his speed as a kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Anyone who thinks a double digit A-League striker in his mid-twenties is going to take a pay-cut needs thier head checked. From what I've heard he has said as much to the club and was in discussions with Roar. And he's asking Berisha-type wages from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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