JMSTEP123 Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, HughJass said: Hmm don't know Bery bery bad Ep.. I think you may be right that this was 2 weeks ago. Feels like a while since I tuned in. Eager for this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 18, 2019 Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 11 hours ago, HughJass said: was there one last week? No. Two weeks ago the last one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 The season targets are probably out of reach. However, it's a derby day again. Go City! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 1 point from our last 4 games is pretty bleak. No one has had the gumption to start this week's derby thread. It's almost like a work function on the calendar. Your expected to attend but just don't want to think about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Jovan said: 1 point from our last 4 games is pretty bleak. No one has had the gumption to start this week's derby thread. It's almost like a work function on the calendar. Your expected to attend but just don't want to think about it. Thats it. When I booked these months ago I was so eager. Not its like heading to a funeral. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 I think I must support much worse football teams around the world than a lot of you. This doesn't even rate in terms of miserable seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, Tommykins said: I think I must support much worse football teams around the world than a lot of you. This doesn't even rate in terms of miserable seasons. In comparison I follow Watford and Bristol City who both are having great seasons. Melb City is my love though and although losses in far off places get me down the losses here are far more personal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 16 hours ago, Imtellingyou said: The season targets are probably out of reach. However, it's a derby day again. Go City! The season targets are being re-adjusted (downwards) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 58 minutes ago, HEARTinator said: The season targets are being re-adjusted (downwards) Did I read recently that our squad receive bonuses if we finish in the top six - an article about Bruno I think - he'll get the bonus even though he's been "suspended" for most of the season? IMO there should be no bonuses unless we win silverware or scrape into the ACL through the back-door. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 19, 2019 Report Share Posted February 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Did I read recently that our squad receive bonuses if we finish in the top six - an article about Bruno I think - he'll get the bonus even though he's been "suspended" for most of the season? IMO there should be no bonuses unless we win silverware or scrape into the ACL through the back-door. I’m not surprised, that sounds like us - mediocre performance bonus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 5 hours ago, jw1739 said: Did I read recently that our squad receive bonuses if we finish in the top six - an article about Bruno I think - he'll get the bonus even though he's been "suspended" for most of the season? IMO there should be no bonuses unless we win silverware or scrape into the ACL through the back-door. I'm surprised the club is stupid enough to set bonuses with a salary cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 On 19/02/2019 at 6:07 PM, JMSTEP123 said: Thats it. When I booked these months ago I was so eager. Not its like heading to a funeral. Hopefully, it's Wazza's coaching career at Melbourne City that's being buried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 10 hours ago, jw1739 said: Did I read recently that our squad receive bonuses if we finish in the top six - an article about Bruno I think - he'll get the bonus even though he's been "suspended" for most of the season? IMO there should be no bonuses unless we win silverware or scrape into the ACL through the back-door.  5 hours ago, haz said: I'm surprised the club is stupid enough to set bonuses with a salary cap I suspect it is only Bruno who had bonuses in his contract. You may recall that there was a bit of a gap between what was offered and what was asked when Bruno's contract was being renegotiated. I suspect the bonuses may have been part of a compromise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted February 20, 2019 Report Share Posted February 20, 2019 11 hours ago, jw1739 said: Did I read recently that our squad receive bonuses if we finish in the top six - an article about Bruno I think - he'll get the bonus even though he's been "suspended" for most of the season? IMO there should be no bonuses unless we win silverware or scrape into the ACL through the back-door. FWIW, bonuses are pretty much standard practice in business so I wouldn't be surprised if all players were given an incentive to finish in the top 6. Beyond that there could be a bonus for winning silverware and/or qualifying for the ACL. Bruno may also have a bonus clause based on goals scored,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 I'd be surprised if there were bonuses allowed in a salary capped league, unless it was a set amount for every club across the board, it would defeat the purpose of a salary cap if we could offer ridiculous bonuses just for making the top 6. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 1 hour ago, mus-28 said: I'd be surprised if there were bonuses allowed in a salary capped league, unless it was a set amount for every club across the board, it would defeat the purpose of a salary cap if we could offer ridiculous bonuses just for making the top 6. Bonuses are allowed, but they count towards the salary cap. Hence my earlier comments that it was likely that only Bruno had bonuses in his contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, malloy said: Bonuses are allowed, but they count towards the salary cap. Hence my earlier comments that it was likely that only Bruno had bonuses in his contract. I think it would be Marquees who you could one really afford to pay bonus` to. Unless they have a small portion of left over money from the cap to distribute at the end of year in renegotiated/rewritten contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted February 21, 2019 Report Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, malloy said: Bonuses are allowed, but they count towards the salary cap. Hence my earlier comments that it was likely that only Bruno had bonuses in his contract. Â 58 minutes ago, AntiScum said: I think it would be Marquees who you could one really afford to pay bonus` to. Unless they have a small portion of left over money from the cap to distribute at the end of year in renegotiated/rewritten contracts. Yes, if you don't spend up to the salary cap then the left over could be used as a pool to distribute to the team in the form of individual bonuses. Not saying it happens, I don't have the inside info, but incentives are common practice. However, just keeping your job might be incentive enough for most players Edited February 21, 2019 by HEARTinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted March 14, 2019 Report Share Posted March 14, 2019 Get hyped for season 19/20. Hopefully a season where we truly make a go of it. Bygones be bygones. New era. Bigger crowds. More passion and rivalry. More entertaining. Exciting players and manager we can all get around etc. One can hope. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 48 minutes ago, JMSTEP123 said: Get hyped for season 19/20. Hopefully a season where we truly make a go of it. Bygones be bygones. New era. Bigger crowds. More passion and rivalry. More entertaining. Exciting players and manager we can all get around etc. One can hope. Been saying that since day 1 my friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted March 15, 2019 Report Share Posted March 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, Tony999 said: Been saying that since day 1 my friend You knew where we were at long before we were at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just chatting with some City fans a bit in the know. Without mentioning names - a bit disheartening to hear there is likely to be (again) high turnover of players and, at this stage, no high profile marquee on the cards. Supposedly some 'structural changes' (?) with a new yet underwhelming manager to "rubuild" again. Hopefully we learn from the awful mistakes that have been learnt. I doubt it. Makes me wonder what the hell the past 2 seasons have been about? Has there been any cultural changes? I know we discuss this in depth all the time. But honestly, best thing to do after a major fuck up is to admit it and demonstrate the desire to get it right. Unfortunately it is looking like much of the same from City in the short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, JMSTEP123 said: Just chatting with some City fans a bit in the know. Without mentioning names - a bit disheartening to hear there is likely to be (again) high turnover of players and, at this stage, no high profile marquee on the cards. Supposedly some 'structural changes' (?) with a new yet underwhelming manager to "rubuild" again. Hopefully we learn from the awful mistakes that have been learnt. I doubt it. Makes me wonder what the hell the past 2 seasons have been about? Has there been any cultural changes? I know we discuss this in depth all the time. But honestly, best thing to do after a major fuck up is to admit it and demonstrate the desire to get it right. Unfortunately it is looking like much of the same from City in the short term. Well tbf we are only going to find out if they are underwhelming one the new season starts again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dylan said: Well tbf we are only going to find out if they are underwhelming one the new season starts again. Absolutely. Plenty of time before then too! I just hope City make a crack at it and stop accepting mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 4 hours ago, JMSTEP123 said: Just chatting with some City fans a bit in the know. Without mentioning names - a bit disheartening to hear there is likely to be (again) high turnover of players and, at this stage, no high profile marquee on the cards. Supposedly some 'structural changes' (?) with a new yet underwhelming manager to "rubuild" again. Hopefully we learn from the awful mistakes that have been learnt. I doubt it. Makes me wonder what the hell the past 2 seasons have been about? Has there been any cultural changes? I know we discuss this in depth all the time. But honestly, best thing to do after a major fuck up is to admit it and demonstrate the desire to get it right. Unfortunately it is looking like much of the same from City in the short term. "Rubuild" - Freudian slip - or deliberate? Either way - brilliant! Just going through the details: 1. Manager coming to end of contract. Has not (so far) delivered an improvement on last season. Therefore likely not to be retained. 2. Playing squad - players coming out of contract: Delianov (Scholarship) Galekovic D. Pierias (Scholarship) - already signed for WU. La Rocca Schenkeveld (visa) De Laet (visa) - one season loan Good McGree - one season loan Wales Brattan - one season loan Vidosic Najjar (Scholarship) Harrison - loan to end of season Bouzanis and Genreau are due return to the club at the end of their loan to PEC Zwolle - both contracted with us for a further season. Prima facie I can see no compelling reason to keep Galekovic, La Rocca or Vidosic. I would hope that we would make a big effort to retain Schenkeveld and Good. The future of loan players depends very much on their overseas club, and, as we have already seen, our Scholarship players may be attractive to WU. Overall I think we can expect between 3 and 7 players on the current list to not be with us next season.  1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted March 23, 2019 Report Share Posted March 23, 2019 8 hours ago, JMSTEP123 said: Has there been any cultural changes? No, and won't until the 3 stooges are gone. Munn gone and 2(Petrillo and Joyce) to go. Let's just hope this new CEO has a clue and stands firm against the CFG morons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Well i look up this forum just about every day but at the moment it is devoid of any interest except fot the Joyce thread what has happened to you all. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, johnno cpfc said: Well i look up this forum just about every day but at the moment it is devoid of any interest except fot the Joyce thread what has happened to you all. We're like the players - on the defensive, afraid to express ourselves, and trying to find a new club. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 I really hope they go after an older manager who is close to retirement  (maybe a big name) and try to sell the idea of one last gig. Sell the lifestyle and that they can have total control to build a legacy that would go beyond just us. But fat chance of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, Dylan said: I really hope they go after an older manager who is close to retirement  (maybe a big name) and try to sell the idea of one last gig. Sell the lifestyle and that they can have total control to build a legacy that would go beyond just us. But fat chance of that happening. That would be fine, but I can't see CFG ever letting a manager have "total control" at Melbourne City. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 hour ago, johnno cpfc said: Well i look up this forum just about every day but at the moment it is devoid of any interest except fot the Joyce thread what has happened to you all. Â Pretty obvious. Months of disillusionment results in indifference. We want nothing more than to be excited but the club has made that near impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 Well I’m done till a new coach arrives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 55 minutes ago, Shahanga said: Well I’m done till a new coach arrives. Same 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Originalmeme Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 As ferguson said, give me zidane and 10 planks of wood and ill conquer the world. Give me Genreau and 10 florians, and Ill promist to make finals (cant promise anything else - planks might be more effective) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 I'll be there till the end of the season but really considering not renewing my foundation membership if Wazza is still there. What an utter disgrace to even consider this man again. It's like they are on a mission to destroy the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 54 minutes ago, Tony999 said: I'll be there till the end of the season but really considering not renewing my foundation membership if Wazza is still there. What an utter disgrace to even consider this man again. It's like they are on a mission to destroy the club. It's a real dilemma, isn't it? I've regularly said that I'll stay regardless, but after recent events I'm moving towards your position. If Joyce is not terminated promptly at the end of his current contract I now think that might tip me over the edge. One of my mates has just cancelled his auto-renewal and has joined the "wait-and-see" camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 minute ago, jw1739 said: It's a real dilemma, isn't it? I've regularly said that I'll stay regardless, but after recent events I'm moving towards your position. If Joyce is not terminated promptly at the end of his current contract I now think that might tip me over the edge. One of my mates has just cancelled his auto-renewal and has joined the "wait-and-see" camp. I have 6 members here. I've never walked away from the club but this to me will be the final straw if he's back next season. And I cannot torture my 22 month old at such a young age. The kid will be scarred for life and will grow up hating football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityHeart Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 is the season still going? I said at the start of the year that I would not attend another game whilst Munn and Joyce are here, and have been true to this word. Havnt attended a game since. If he is not sacked, not even sure I will accept a re-deployment to youth or a homesick excuse, I will not renew and probably be done with this club on a week by week following mode. The A-league is pretty much dead to me anyway - should be over by now as winter sports swamp it. But this club makes it all the much harder as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted April 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) I cancelled my Auto renewal. With a 6 person m'ship. Plus 2 others that only got involved because of the kids. The oldest has gone to dark side. The youngest is not interested in soccer much. The rest are bored. I'm reluctant to walk, but I can't do another season of Joyceball. Edited April 2, 2019 by Jovan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 2, 2019 Report Share Posted April 2, 2019 I know CFG don't give a rats arse what we have to say but seriously, isn't it embarrassing for them to play in front of potentially 4k next season if they are not serious about winning silverware and reappoint Wazza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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