Thrillhouse Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Taxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Need a chant so that CFG know we don't want him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Jardel > Koren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 You see it in glimpses but the workrate is just non existent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I've seen enough. Not marquee quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I've seen enough. Not marquee quality.Not even A-League quality from what he's shown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFCROB24 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Can we chip I some coin for a taxi to the airport for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 How much is this guy roughly on? Massive disappointment compared to other marquee players in the A-league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I've seen enough. Not marquee quality.Not even A-League quality from what he's shown. Yep I was patient and thought in time he would come good, similar to Janko. But for the life of me how long do we have to wait. Our season has been on the line last 2 games and he just cruises around and seems to put in when he feels like it. Very very very disappointed in him but more so the flog that brought him here. Both GTFO . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFCROB24 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I dislike him more than Ramsey Ramsey Atleast trys with what he's got. Atleast has a go. Koren mr marque Mr first ever Melb city marque IS SUCH A WASTE OF TIME AND SPACE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 For me it just reiterates how important it is to get a player in their prime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 He's been shit but first port of call, bring in a competent manager. He'd probably be killing it under Arnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 He's been shit but first port of call, bring in a competent manager. He'd probably be killing it under Arnold. Do you honestly believe he is playing like this because of the system/tactics. He's potentially jeopardising his career, he might not get another contract after us and the way he's playing he shouldn't . I think he's just not as good as everyone thought he'd be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) No I thnk he's been shit and isn't anywhere near good enough for marquee. He's not even better than most Aleague player. Point is I want a new manager before anything else and then move players on from there. Edited March 11, 2015 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFCROB24 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 would of been interesting if villa was our marque. Had has family down here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Been said before, he is a luxury player. He shows the odd bit of work ethic, turn of foot and actually looks quite happy when we score. But, for the most part, he is too lax off the ball. He misses shots that a player of his quality should be burying. He has enough quality around him to be more influential but it isn't working. I had high hopes but he has been a disappointment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Pay him next seasons wages now - and get someone else as marquee. Pay his 2 years wages in season 1, then keep him on minimum wages. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Somewhere I have the notes of what Begiristain said about marquees. Koren doesn't fit the CFG criteria, and neither does Kennedy. We have only ourselves to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriente Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 Sack him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I dislike him more than Ramsey Ramsey Atleast trys with what he's got. Atleast has a go. Koren mr marque Mr first ever Melb city marque IS SUCH A WASTE OF TIME AND SPACE My god i said something very very simular on the Melb City Fans page. I have been anti Ramsay for a very very very long time, but Koren has taken over for me as the most annoying and hated player at City for me. Gonna lay off Ramsay a little now. Ok he's not a quality footballer, but th bloke has a go. Koren on the other hand clearly doesnt give a shit. Ok he's being played out of position, but qualitiy footballers find a way to contribute and have a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 11, 2015 Report Share Posted March 11, 2015 I dislike him more than Ramsey Ramsey Atleast trys with what he's got. Atleast has a go. Koren mr marque Mr first ever Melb city marque IS SUCH A WASTE OF TIME AND SPACE My god i said something very very simular on the Melb City Fans page. I have been anti Ramsay for a very very very long time, but Koren has taken over for me as the most annoying and hated player at City for me. Gonna lay off Ramsay a little now. Ok he's not a quality footballer, but th bloke has a go. Koren on the other hand clearly doesnt give a shit. Ok he's being played out of position, but qualitiy footballers find a way to contribute and have a go. I think you nailed it. I hate watching crap footballers but I loath even more players that just don't have a go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFCROB24 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I dislike him more than Ramsey Ramsey Atleast trys with what he's got. Atleast has a go. Koren mr marque Mr first ever Melb city marque IS SUCH A WASTE OF TIME AND SPACE My god i said something very very simular on the Melb City Fans page. I have been anti Ramsay for a very very very long time, but Koren has taken over for me as the most annoying and hated player at City for me. Gonna lay off Ramsay a little now. Ok he's not a quality footballer, but th bloke has a go. Koren on the other hand clearly doesnt give a shit. Ok he's being played out of position, but qualitiy footballers find a way to contribute and have a go. I think you nailed it. I hate watching crap footballers but I loath even more players that just don't have a go. spot on guys, He cops a lot our good friend Ramsey - But he has a dip he runs he tries, He may not be the best gifted player but hey if he has a dip its good. Koren looks like he is on holidays. Dis interested lack of emotion lack of passion lack of anything positive 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) In all seriousness, did we really expect a 34 yr old to run rings around players in the A-league. 34 yr olds are well and truly retired. Edited March 12, 2015 by Tony999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 This guy was ok at 38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 In all seriousness, did we really expect a 34 yr old to run rings around players in the A-league. 34 yr olds are well and truly retired. the dud of all duds daniel mcbreen won the golden boot around that age Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityamatic Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not impressed with him this far TBH, but would like to see how he goes under a manager with a clue about how to fit our playing group together on the pitch. Actually, just a manager with a clue, that'd be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not impressed with him this far TBH, but would like to see how he goes under a manager with a clue about how to fit our playing group together on the pitch. Actually, just a manager with a clue, that'd be nice. I agree. He has been poor though and he has looked lax about it a lot of the time. But I think these decision can't be made until we see what a new manager can make of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 It's down to the manager surely. Poppa makes shit kickers flourish yet JVS makes good players look very average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Compare Koren to: Broich. Berisha Janko Marinkovic Carrusca etc. etc. etc. Koren OUT. Koren OUT. Koren OUT. Koren OUT. Koren OUT. Koren OUT. Koren OUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not impressed with him this far TBH, but would like to see how he goes under a manager with a clue about how to fit our playing group together on the pitch. Actually, just a manager with a clue, that'd be nice. I agree. He has been poor though and he has looked lax about it a lot of the time. But I think these decision can't be made until we see what a new manager can make of the team. Then next season you will then ask was it the manager or was it the player again. No there are plenty of other tell tale signs that indicate that Koren is not the type of player we require under any coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 In all seriousness, did we really expect a 34 yr old to run rings around players in the A-league. 34 yr olds are well and truly retired. the dud of all duds daniel mcbreen won the golden boot around that age Anyone here care to mention Engelaar. Was 35 and i'd bloody take him still before this clump of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Not impressed with him this far TBH, but would like to see how he goes under a manager with a clue about how to fit our playing group together on the pitch. Actually, just a manager with a clue, that'd be nice. I agree. He has been poor though and he has looked lax about it a lot of the time. But I think these decision can't be made until we see what a new manager can make of the team. Then next season you will then ask was it the manager or was it the player again. No there are plenty of other tell tale signs that indicate that Koren is not the type of player we require under any coach. I agree he has been as useless as Kennedy. But the same could be said about Kennedy who scored bags of goals for all his clubs and for the NT and now can't get close and looks shithouse. Perhaps Koren had incriminating photos of all the managers he played for when he was playing in the epl. How could such a shit player play at the top of Championship and EPL level otherwise? Edited March 12, 2015 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 In all seriousness, did we really expect a 34 yr old to run rings around players in the A-league. 34 yr olds are well and truly retired. the dud of all duds daniel mcbreen won the golden boot around that age 37 I think. Age isn't koren' problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Samuel Eto'o would be nice next season (y) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Samuel Eto'o would be nice next season (y) wrong attitude, would probly care less than koren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not impressed with him this far TBH, but would like to see how he goes under a manager with a clue about how to fit our playing group together on the pitch. Actually, just a manager with a clue, that'd be nice. I agree. He has been poor though and he has looked lax about it a lot of the time. But I think these decision can't be made until we see what a new manager can make of the team. Then next season you will then ask was it the manager or was it the player again. No there are plenty of other tell tale signs that indicate that Koren is not the type of player we require under any coach. Well, I don't know anymore. So many players seem to come to us and then don't seem to live up to expectation. We knew Koren was a "luxury player" before he came, but even lazy players, or luxury players, do have self-esteem and pride and I can't believe that we keep signing the wrong sort of player for City. Yes the players do carry some responsibility, but ultimately this must all come down to the ability of the manager to sign the right players for the strategies and tactics he wants to use, to use the right motivation techniques for the players, and to maintain discipline etc. etc. Ultimately everything does come back to the manager. Aloisi had one and a half seasons, and van 't Schip is about to clock up three and a half, and Heart/City have underperformed throughout that whole period. It's not a personal attack on them, but they just haven't been the right people for the task in front of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Not impressed with him this far TBH, but would like to see how he goes under a manager with a clue about how to fit our playing group together on the pitch. Actually, just a manager with a clue, that'd be nice. I agree. He has been poor though and he has looked lax about it a lot of the time. But I think these decision can't be made until we see what a new manager can make of the team. Then next season you will then ask was it the manager or was it the player again. No there are plenty of other tell tale signs that indicate that Koren is not the type of player we require under any coach. Well, I don't know anymore. So many players seem to come to us and then don't seem to live up to expectation. We knew Koren was a "luxury player" before he came, but even lazy players, or luxury players, do have self-esteem and pride and I can't believe that we keep signing the wrong sort of player for City. Yes the players do carry some responsibility, but ultimately this must all come down to the ability of the manager to sign the right players for the strategies and tactics he wants to use, to use the right motivation techniques for the players, and to maintain discipline etc. etc. Ultimately everything does come back to the manager. Aloisi had one and a half seasons, and van 't Schip is about to clock up three and a half, and Heart/City have underperformed throughout that whole period. It's not a personal attack on them, but they just haven't been the right people for the task in front of them. I do agree with what you are saying. I knew instinctively that JA was going the wrong choice and I seriously contemplated not renewing my season's ticket. With JVS I have a more nuanced perspective. In season one the club was setup and since my only experience of start up clubs were in the AFL (Brisbane Bears, WCE, Adelaide Crows) I did not know what to expect and in the AFL those clubs took a few years to find their feet. IIRC in season 1, the club missed the finals by about 2 games - one of which Jacob Burns took a dive for which he was suspended. In season 2 the club still did not have adequate facilities, the budget was cut and some players were sold. Much harder task. mean while NQF went bust and CGU had the rug pulled from under them. So from that perspective the club was doing well to survive. So that brings us to last season when JVS took over and Engelaar began to get match fit and the winning streak occurred. Originally JVS said that he was not interested in the job for the following season - until the CFG take over. For me it is this season that he has been found wanting because as far as I'm concerned this is the best playing list the club has ever had. The recruiting has been good with the major exception being Koren. It is possible that another coach may extract more from him but then we would be shopping for a coach to fit a player. JVS has been found wanting in his lack of experimentation this season (I have no idea why this is the case because he certainly was prepared to experiment in previous seasons), his inability to drop players (Redmayne in particular) and his inability to motivate the playing group. In this season the club has had a lot of things going right and JVS has failed to capitalise on this. And as far as Koren is concerned, well he has not performed to the level that is required of him and he bears responsibility for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I think that Mooy has been given the nod for the Socceroos, this will probably the only time Koren will get a go in the cm role. Do you think we may see something other than gobshite or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I think that Mooy has been given the nod for the Socceroos, this will probably the only time Koren will get a go in the cm role. Do you think we may see something other than gobshite or not? Koren two hattricks confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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