Defibrillator Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 An extraordinary meeting between management and coaching staff has been called for Sunday night post game. Very good source. JA definitely at the helm this week then ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victards Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 An extraordinary meeting between management and coaching staff has been called for Sunday night post game. Very good source. JA definitely at the helm this week then ??? Lose or Draw he is gone. A win will buy him another week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 An extraordinary meeting between management and coaching staff has been called for Sunday night post game. Very good source. JA definitely at the helm this week then ??? Watch us have one of the flukiest wins ever now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 JA if we win on Sunday: Â 'See i told you when we got kewell back everything would be alright, trust in me, we're going to win the league!' Â JA if we lose on Sunday: Â 'Well we have a lot if injuries and Orlandos out, so we just have to stay positive. I thought we put in a really good effort though' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 It would be the most perplexing part of JAs Melbourne Heart adventure if he went out playing the same brand of football we currently are, at least go down swinging son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 A-League preview: Melbourne Heart vs Adelaide United  By Iain Strachan Goal.com  Head-to-head: Played: 9, Wins: Heart 2, Adelaide 5, Draws: 2Previous encounter: Heart 0-2 Adelaide, March 3 2013Form: Past five matches: Heart: LLLLL Adelaide: LDLLLThe Game: If Adelaide United need cheering up (and they do), they have only to inspect the state of their opponents this weekend. Both coaches have been preaching a message that performances have been positive, chances are being created and the results are just around the corner. In Adelaide's case, that could still be true. To give Josep Gombau and his possession-based approach the benefit of the doubt, the Reds have had a bit of a tough run lately. Two games against arch-rivals Melbourne Victory in the space of five rounds, away matches against grand finalists Western Sydney and Central Coast in successive weeks, as well as the long, draining trip to play Perth in WA. True, a loss at home to the previously out-of-form Newcastle Jets was disappointing, and they should have done better against the 10 men of Victory last time out. But Adelaide continue to move the ball well, and any team which controls possession has a chance of converting that statistical dominance into goals and wins. They need to come soon though, before the pressure becomes too much for a manager who keeps insisting the process is his priority. As for Heart, in the last two weeks the spells of encouraging football and the number of chances being created and not taken have become fewer and fewer, leaving embattled coach John Aloisi clutching at straws as he attempts to explain the nightmare run and seek to turn the team's season around. At just about any other club in the league, Aloisi would have been axed by now, with the Heart's financial constraints and default low expectations keeping him in the job. But even they have limits as to what they can endure, meaning it will soon be a case of now or never if a revival is to take place without a change in the dugout.The big issue:Heart – What isn't an issue for the Heart at this point? They need to show more spirit and determination if they really believe in Aloisi's message, and they also have to make better decisions and execute skill-sets more effectively all over the pitch for results to improve. The ball needs to be moved more quickly and with more accuracy in the final third if they are to breach opposing defences with the frequency required to win matches.Adelaide – Similar attacking problems to their opponents this weekend, although not as acute. Adelaide pass the ball nicely, and then do nothing with it in the final third. They have bags of talent in that department, with Jeronimo Neumann, Marcelo Carrusca, Fabio Ferreira and Bruce Djite all capable of finding the back of the net. But something hasn't clicked in Gombau's attacking game-plan yet. Worryingly, they've also started shipping goals at the other end. Reversing the flow is crucial for a season that promised so much back in Round 1 to get finally off the ground. The game breaker: Harry Kewell - the Heart's captain and playmaker hasn't been seen since Round 1 due to a whiplash injury and then a rolled ankle. Despite his poor injury record in recent years, Aloisi built his formation around the veteran forward and put enormous faith in his ability to lead by example, create goals and set the tempo. They have been lost without him. Now Kewell, expected to return to fitness this weekend, has to repay his coach. The visit of Adelaide is the first opportunity, but it will take a consistent run from the former Socceroo star to rescue his team's campaign.Prediction: Melbourne Heart 1-2 Adelaide United Gombau's uncertain players will not receive a better opportunity than this to prove they have absorbed the Spaniard's tactics and can implement his desired strategy. If they can't get it right against a woeful Heart, it could be a long season ahead for the Reds. Heart meanwhile also have a decent chance to finally come good. They are on home soil, and facing a club which haven't won since the opening weekend. Kewell is expected to be back, while striker Michael Mifsud has had plenty of time to settle in, and must start scoring soon. It is unlikely to be easy on the eye at AAMI Park on Sunday, but with jobs potentially on the line, this match is certain to be morbidly fascinating.  http://sg.sports.yahoo.com/news/league-preview-melbourne-heart-v-adelaide-united-052900023--spt.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 A win against Adelaide proves nothing.  Gombau doesn't have the right squad to effectively play his system. Adelaide were pathetic when outscored 2-0 by 10 man Victory in the second half. But a loss against Adelaide will prove a lot. ALOISI OUT.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I agree, a win against a struggling side like Adelaide at home means nothing. Hopefully the club understands that. However, it looks like we're tipped to lose this, and I think the pundits are probably right to tip against us, so Aloisi probably won't get a reprieve.  I really wish Aloisi would play a youthful team in an attacking manner, but if last week's match is any indication that won't happen. Aloisi scapegoated Kalmar and Walker after the Sydney match and dropped them against Newcastle, and I reckon Aloisi will keep hoping that his older players like Kisnorbo, Gerhardt and Kewell can turn things around (to be fair he did play Mebrahtu in place of Mifsud, but that was probably because Mifsud played mid-week).  I expect Aloisi to march on ahead with the same tactics and largely the same players that have gotten him nowhere so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Just you wait... He's just training the players up for this when DMac comes back from injury... I really like that your name is Petercrouch and you posted this tactic. Are you angling for a job at stoke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Anyone who plays the ball on the deck gets relegated, better to pump it long and do as your told Possibly the best post all year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Adelaide copped a few goals on the counter against victory, which I dare say will further convince aloisi of the long ball quick counter play. But in saying that I'd say this is our best chance of winning cause aloisis gameplay will actually be a near perfect fit to the oppositions gameplay. It's gonna be winning ugly football 101 this weekend ladies and gents, if we win at all that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Carusca to team up with Jeronimo to score one and assist each-other's goals. Gerhardt (right back) to be sent off after giving away a penalty. Of course, this week Cirio will convert.  Harry Kewell to come on at 62nd minute to salvage a draw only to do a hammy because he wasn't match fit and will announce his retirement the next day together with Aloisi's sacking announcement.  Heart 0 - 3 AUFC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Carusca to team up with Jeronimo to score one and assist each-other's goals. Gerhardt (right back) to be sent off after giving away a penalty. Of course, this week Cirio will convert.  Harry Kewell to come on at 62nd minute to salvage a draw only to do a hammy because he wasn't match fit and will announce his retirement the next day together with Aloisi's sacking announcement.  Heart 0 - 3 AUFC. I had a chuckle. Then I realised it was because it had a ring of truth about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 If Gerdhart was to be played at RB again i'll just go home. Theres a difference between experimenting and being just plain silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Would JA risk using such a youngster in Jeremy walker? History says no, he will stick with his older players in Gerhardt thinking there's less risk and once again will be proven wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePolo Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 More important than Aloisi, what time is the march ??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD. Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 More important than Aloisi, what time is the march ???????  finally the perfect response to that question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I think this is JA's final chance. Anything less than a convincing win and he is gone. Almost two fucking years without an away win and two bloody points from seven matches is unacceptable. Â Walker needs to start at RB. Kalmar needs to play as the number ten and be given creative freedom. Williams needs to stop disappointing us. Mebrahtu needs to get out of first gear more often. Murdocca needs to be the actual link between defence and offence. Migliorini needs to be better, in every way. Tough I know, but unfortunately, true. Kis and Rob MUST communicate and sort out the backline from the first minute. Adelaide have some crafty players who will undoubtedly kill our midfield if we don't mark them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 The closer we get to Sunday the more I'm getting excited about attending this landmark game LOL. Hopefully it will officially be the worst every HAL game ever played and JA and Gumby will have the full support of their boards on Monday before being sacked on Tuesday. That'll keep us in the media spotlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Carusca to team up with Jeronimo to score one and assist each-other's goals. Gerhardt (right back) to be sent off after giving away a penalty. Of course, this week Cirio will convert.  Harry Kewell to come on at 62nd minute to salvage a draw only to do a hammy because he wasn't match fit and will announce his retirement the next day together with Aloisi's sacking announcement.  Heart 0 - 3 AUFC. Laugh at this, but in a way it is quite prophetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 More important than Aloisi, what time is the march ??????? Due to The Protest we will be heading to the ground earlier than usual so prob around 4pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 After reading this thread, I wonder how many folks here will be more pleased than disappointed if we lose 5-0? Similarly, how many folks will be more disappointed than pleased should we win 1-0 or 2-1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited)  More important than Aloisi, what time is the march ??????? Due to The Protest we will be heading to the ground earlier than usual so prob around 4pm.  Im assuming so we can actually get a seat to sit down in for the protest? Edited November 27, 2013 by [LIBBA] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 After reading this thread, I wonder how many folks here will be more pleased than disappointed if we lose 5-0? Similarly, how many folks will be more disappointed than pleased should we win 1-0 or 2-1? Im gonna cop it after i sayd this, but i just cant understand why anyone would want they're side to lose.  No matter how much i want change in management, i just cant get my head around sacrificing a loss for that cause.  I want fuckin see a win so i can start the bloody walk into work on a monday feeling good about the fact my side are on the winners list.  Plus the misses just cant handle my mood swing after a loss anymore lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I think this is JA's final chance. Anything less than a convincing win and he is gone. Almost two fucking years without an away win and two bloody points from seven matches is unacceptable. Â In response to your ideas, JAs thinking would probably be something like this... Â Walker needs to start at RB. "Walker is too much of a risk because he likes to push forward, which dangerously exposes the right hand wing. And theres no need for such a player when we're going to counter quickly with longer balls. That and its a bit risky utilising such a young player. Gerhardt is a safer option, and this way of playing comes naturally to him." Â Kalmar needs to play as the number ten and be given creative freedom. "Why have a creative mid when we need to break quickly on the counter? We need speed not creativity in our midfield." Â Williams needs to stop disappointing us. "Williams is a perfect number 10 because of his speed and ability to run at defenders. Doesnt matter that hes our only real goal scorer and was in a number 9 position at the time. Hes perfect at number 10 until Harry gets back, and then we'll start winning." Â Mebrahtu needs to get out of first gear more often. "I dont see any problems with golgols intensity, not sure what everyones going on about?" Â Murdocca needs to be the actual link between defence and offence."Thats true he is a hard worker." Â Migliorini needs to be better, in every way. Tough I know, but unfortunately, true. He's doing the best he can until Engelaar ruturns and then we'll start winning." Â Kis and Rob MUST communicate and sort out the backline from the first minute. Adelaide have some crafty players who will undoubtedly kill our midfield if we don't mark them. "The boys have been solid so far this season, but its a shame they have cost us a few penalties. Thats been our undoing in defense this season and has cost us some results, but I have full faith with Kisnorbo, Weilaert." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) was wondering if this might be a good chant for the second half (with the first half for the sit down and all)  i've put it in the chants section too, but thought forum might be a little better / more popular in terms of the chant either getting trackion or shot down.  it is sung to When Johnny Comes Marching Home (the same one as the Alex Terra chant)  Aloisi Out  he came to coach with much promise, he did, he did  he's coached for 18 months and he is shit, is shit  he plays it long with no idea,  he gives opponents nothing to fear,  time to piss off, Aloisi Out, Aloisi Out  NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA  NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA  time to piss off, Aloisi Out, Aloisi Out Edited November 27, 2013 by mattyh001 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013  After reading this thread, I wonder how many folks here will be more pleased than disappointed if we lose 5-0? Similarly, how many folks will be more disappointed than pleased should we win 1-0 or 2-1? Im gonna cop it after i sayd this, but i just cant understand why anyone would want they're side to lose.  No matter how much i want change in management, i just cant get my head around sacrificing a loss for that cause.  I want fuckin see a win so i can start the bloody walk into work on a monday feeling good about the fact my side are on the winners list.  Plus the misses just cant handle my mood swing after a loss anymore lol   I dont want us to lose either but the feelings everyone has are justified to a point.  L D L W D L L L W L D D W L L L W W L W L L W L W L L L L L L L D L D D L L L L L  See throughout the very first half of the season last year we had wins every 4-5 games? This inevitbaly extends the chances of JA staying on. We might win on Sunday, which will extend JAs time at Heart for another 2+ games and then he might have a win again which will once again extend his time here. See where this is going? Before you know it we have last season or worse all over again. It slips right past you before you know it. That is why no one wants to take that chance this time, and its also why people want the loss, to put the nail in the coffin, leave no doubt we need someone else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 For the record, the first game last season was a W. And didn't all feel so promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 That's right, record includes preseason games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 That's right, record includes preseason games Nice work  . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I legit had a dream about this game last night... there were about 4000 people there, Yarraside's backs were turned to the game for the whole first half before everyone went crazy and Simon Hill commented on the discontent from Heart fans and we ended up losing 2-0 with a Korean player scoring a brace for Adelaide (I love that Adelaide have no Korean players, ruins any chance of my prophecy actually occurring)Â Â Aloisi was subsequently sacked though so hopefully that part of my dream becomes reality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I legit had a dream about this game last night... there were about 4000 people there, Yarraside's backs were turned to the game for the whole first half before everyone went crazy and Simon Hill commented on the discontent from Heart fans and we ended up losing 2-0 with a Korean player scoring a brace for Adelaide (I love that Adelaide have no Korean players, ruins any chance of my prophecy actually occurring) Aloisi was subsequently sacked though so hopefully that part of my dream becomes reality! In my experience with dreams,totally opposite happens to what I dreamed about. Hope I'm wrong here or it will be 2:0 win to us and aloisi will stay longer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 My gut tells me he'll stay regardless, I just can't see the board wanting to pay out his contract. Â If Harry plays we'll probably win though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 even a draw will be enough for the this Board to keep him for another 7 game trial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 even a draw will be enough for the this Board to keep him for another 7 game trial Lol This trial begun before first derby last season Who continues to trial something that has been a failure longer then Heart's board???? Communist party and their ideology is the only thing that comes to mind ATM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) even a draw will be enough for the this Board to keep him for another 7 game trial I think that you are right ... by all rights he should be gone by now Edited November 28, 2013 by japiedog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedukeofhearts Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I could see him getting sacked even if we win. History shows different, but I'm hoping they have already lined someone up and have been sorting things out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Yeah I think the decision has already been made.  Club has been quiet this week, even with HK back. If they wernt organising a post JA future they would have him out in the media everywhere. Edited November 28, 2013 by Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yeah I think the decision has already been made.  Club has been quiet this week, even with HK back. If they wernt organising a post JA future they would have him out in the media everywhere. I live in hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 I also think that a decision has been made. Maybe several decisions are involved within the Football Department - which was conspicuous for not getting a mention in Munn's message. So I think the question is "when?"Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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