Victards Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 I got money saying he will never step foot on the pitch for Heart again likewise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 The circus has arrived hey Mr Munn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 (edited) I have said in another post that Engelaar will play before Kewell does and I am sticking to that prediction. Please just retire and be done with it or go on long term injury list and therefore allow a replacement signing. Edited December 4, 2013 by TheGaffer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALZALOL Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 When I first heard whispers of MHFC signing this scumbag I felt very embarrassed as I knew he was going to be a problem to the club, by the sounds of things of recent, he has caused issues within the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB. Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 There's much more to this than a purported "ankle injury." It's a man-management issue. Heard today from a physio that he's actually injured his hamstring (hence the lengthy layoff) and the club's been trying to play the severity down by claiming smaller, weekly injuries in a continuing, touch-and-go assessment.Did some digging yesterday, and from what I was told Harry did a soft tissue injury during the derby. The 'whiplash' story was concocted so he wouldn't have to put up with same old questions about age, fitness etc that were gonna be asked so they decided a cover story was better.^^FB first with the scoop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Announcing a hamstring injury would have at least bought him the 6 or 8 weeks respite generally given for such an injury instead of the constant speculation that has occurred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart Inaugural Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 ^^FB first with the scoop. Haha fair play - would be enough of a fitness test for H to trawl through 47 pages of injury speculation! Perhaps the week-by-week diagnosis / speculation feeds into Harry's PR machine of 'any publicity etc' or just highlights the poor management from Heart HQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 There's much more to this than a purported "ankle injury." It's a man-management issue. Heard today from a physio that he's actually injured his hamstring (hence the lengthy layoff) and the club's been trying to play the severity down by claiming smaller, weekly injuries in a continuing, touch-and-go assessment. Did some digging yesterday, and from what I was told Harry did a soft tissue injury during the derby. The 'whiplash' story was concocted so he wouldn't have to put up with same old questions about age, fitness etc that were gonna be asked so they decided a cover story was better. ^^FB first with the scoop. FB with the fish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 There's much more to this than a purported "ankle injury." It's a man-management issue. Heard today from a physio that he's actually injured his hamstring (hence the lengthy layoff) and the club's been trying to play the severity down by claiming smaller, weekly injuries in a continuing, touch-and-go assessment. The physio?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTD/MLBHRT/ESSNDON Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Harry didn't train today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Didn't feel like it. Rainy conditions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Farcical, especially considering he's our captain. Make Wielaert or Mass our club captain already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 wouldn't want him to get his tooties wet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted December 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Here's a slightly longer video of the interview Kewell did yesterday (also you don't need to subscribe to view the video), with an interesting comment or two: http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/videos/aleague/Kewell-determined-to-make-it-back/640063/9374/1013/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 There is no point him playing anymore, He wassnt spectauclar in the derby and now he is back at square one because of the injuries,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Our captain is (probably) the lowest paid player in the team and has only played less than 10% out of 720mins of game time this season. And we want others to take our club seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Here's a slightly longer video of the interview Kewell did yesterday (also you don't need to subscribe to view the video), with an interesting comment or two: http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/videos/aleague/Kewell-determined-to-make-it-back/640063/9374/1013/1 (Kewell on Aloisi) "He's still learning his trade and he's coming up, I think, trumps at the moment"... The Heart are yet to win this season... Say it all really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Our captain is (probably) the lowest paid player in the team and has only played less than 10% out of 720mins of game time this season. And we want others to take our club seriously! I never realised a captain is chosen based on his salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Our captain is (probably) the lowest paid player in the team and has only played less than 10% out of 720mins of game time this season. And we want others to take our club seriously! I never realised a captain is chosen based on his salary No, but often your wage is a reflection of how highly regarded you are. If you worked at say a cafe and were shift manager, would you take you take your position seriously if you were paid less than everyone else? *I wouldnt. I would call in sick and play golf instead Edited December 6, 2013 by KSK_47 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Here's a slightly longer video of the interview Kewell did yesterday (also you don't need to subscribe to view the video), with an interesting comment or two: http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/videos/aleague/Kewell-determined-to-make-it-back/640063/9374/1013/1 (Kewell on Aloisi) "He's still learning his trade and he's coming up, I think, trumps at the moment"... The Heart are yet to win this season... Say it all really It does, I mean you expect them to give each other positive feedback cause they're part of the same team. But he can't be serious in saying that. They must think people are stupid, either that or they're delusional. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Our captain is (probably) the lowest paid player in the team and has only played less than 10% out of 720mins of game time this season. And we want others to take our club seriously! I never realised a captain is chosen based on his salary No, but often your wage is a reflection of how highly regarded you are. If you worked at say a cafe and were shift manager, would you take you take your position seriously if you were paid less than everyone else? *I wouldnt. I would call in sick and play golf instead If I agreed to those terms and conditions then I was clearly happy with it so yes I would take that position seriously. Kewell could have very easily said fuck you guys I want x amount of dollars. But he didn't because he signed the contract happy with the agreed salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Our captain is (probably) the lowest paid player in the team and has only played less than 10% out of 720mins of game time this season. And we want others to take our club seriously! I never realised a captain is chosen based on his salary No, but often your wage is a reflection of how highly regarded you are. If you worked at say a cafe and were shift manager, would you take you take your position seriously if you were paid less than everyone else? *I wouldnt. I would call in sick and play golf instead If I agreed to those terms and conditions then I was clearly happy with it so yes I would take that position seriously. Kewell could have very easily said fuck you guys I want x amount of dollars. But he didn't because he signed the contract happy with the agreed salary. I think he knows he has absolutely no other job prospects so negotiating a better deal is never going to happen. I get the impression it was more a case of the club asking him if he wanted the armband and he just said "yeah, why not eh?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexiano Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Maybe the agreement is strictly time on park. He's only playing 5% of the season, so be gets paid 5% his full time salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Harry Kewell ready for warm reception as he finally returns to western Sydney Richard Hinds The Daily Telegraph December 06, 2013 HARRY Kewell is well aware his homecoming will not be as heartwarming as some. Not when he is returning to western Sydney with the enemy. "I know I'm going to get a lot of stick,'' says Kewell, who flew with the Melbourne Heart squad that will today play Western Sydney Wanderers, but has not yet confirmed if he will be on the park or watch from the stands. "But after the game, I think they will be good. They can give me as much stick as they like but, in the end, I'm from there. I'm one of them.'' Raised in Smithfield, Kewell is a westy. The son of an English immigrant and product of one of Australia's great football nurseries. "That's where I'm from, that's where I learnt my trade,'' he says. "That's where it all started.'' If the script was more romantic, Kewell would be playing with the Wanderers. He had discussions with the club while weighing up his future early this year, but the pieces did not fit together. Kewell had no regrets. He has always remembered where he is from, but since leaving for England as a teenager, resisted the urge to return. "The reason I didn't go back is you don't want to slip into a comfort zone,'' he says. "If you're away from home, you're always up against the elements, you're always fighting to get what you want. "It was more of a mental thing for me. If you're home it's easy. You slip back into that way of life. I always wanted to test myself.'' Once blessed by his sublime skill, football has tested Kewell severely in the past few years. One injury after another, and an illness in his English wife's family forced him to return to England after a year with the Melbourne Victory, has kept the 35 year-old off the park. With Melbourne Heart it has been a rare case of whiplash in his first game against Victory, then a training ground ankle injury. "I've tried to be around, be positive, give my teammates information, let them know they can come to me when they want,'' he says. "But in general, yeah, it's been frustrating.'' More so given Heart have struggled, putting his coach and former Socceroos teammate John Aloisi under pressure. Watching his team create and squander chance after chance is not easy for a man with predatory goal-scoring instincts. "I'm screaming and shouting probably like every other punter 'Oh my God you can't do that','' says Kewell. "But when you're on the park it's a different ball game." You wonder why Kewell continues to take the long drive from his home in the southern bayside suburb of Brighton to the Heart's northern training base at La Trobe University for yet more treatment. Why he puts his once glowing reputation on the line. The answer, Kewell insists, is not merely the pursuit of more World Cup glory. "Everyone is harping on about it. 'He's come back to play in that,'' says Kewell. "But like I've said from day one, my first job is to play well for the Heart. I'm not even thinking about playing for the Socceroos.'' Rather, Kewell insists it is a feeling of "unfinished business'' that has him playing with the Heart. Despite a slow start due to a short preparation, he enjoyed his season withVictory. Believed he played well, and can do so again. "The reason I'm here,'' he says firmly, "is football.'' But what more football does the man who dazzled with Leeds and Liverpool, and scored iconic World Cup goals for the Socceroos, have to play? Is he not merely jeopardising his own legacy by limping on? "The only way it would hurt my legacy is if I didn't play good football and I still believe I can,'' he says. "OK, I've had a little bit of misfortune this year. Last year I didn't play. But my last six months at Victory were good. "I know what I can do on the park. I'm always open for people to criticise my game. It's when they criticise me for things they don't know about, or don't see, that's when I get angry.'' Kewell believes Socceroos' captain Lucas Neil was wrong to bite back at those who booed him during the match against Costa Rica. But, at the same time, he empathises with a fellow member of the so-called "golden generation''. "What Lucas was trying to say there was these young kids in the A-League have a wonderful opportunity to play in a World Cup,'' says Kewell. "We took it, but week-in week-out we had to fight. "That's what we are trying to say to the youngsters. Yes, we are 35 or 36. But you know what, we still know how to play the game. If you want this position, take it off us.'' That word, "us'', makes it clear, despite the injuries, the lack of game time and the Socceroos' generational change, Kewell has not given up the dream. That he will come home hoping this is the start of a comeback that will, again, take him a long way away. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/harry-kewell-ready-for-warm-reception-as-he-finally-returns-to-western-sydney/story-fni2fopz-1226777311567 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 I wonder how Australia's World Cup draw has affected Harry's thought process now. Does Ange tap Harry on the shoulder and say "the fringe players who are going to the World Cup are going to be youngsters to groom them for 2018 so you aren't required" or does Harry further feed into the delusion regarding where he's at and think to himself, "I can mix it with the very best in the world against the likes of Spain and the Netherlands, bring on Brazil 2014". Personally I don't see the point of Harry going to Brazil, we aren't going to progress from the group so Ange would be stupid in my opinion to bring 35 year old Harry Kewell in the place of a talented young footballer who could be primed and ready to go in Russia 2018 assuming we qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD. Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Harry Kewell to follow in Vince Grellas footsteps by playing 20 minutes for the heart then officially retiring after the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powelly Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Quality when he came on. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Quality when he came on. Oh yeah. We looked a completely different side with him on the park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 He was still a bit unfit but we looked so much calmer on the ball when he came on, we actually played in triangles for just about the first time this season which was nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD. Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 100% made a difference. was great when he did come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victards Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Hopefully a fully fit Kewell and Engelaar make a difference to the way we play. Looked good with Kewell on, surely it can only get better.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Other players lifted in confidence as soon as he came on, even started calling for the ball and they made passes to H they would never try to make to other heart players. Seems he is a big part of the other players belief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Hopefully a fully fit Kewell and Engelaar make a difference to the way we play. Looked good with Kewell on, surely it can only get better.. Are you Aloisi? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Hopefully a fully fit Kewell and Engelaar make a difference to the way we play. Looked good with Kewell on, surely it can only get better.. Are you Aloisi? I don't see anything wrong in what he has said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 He was still a bit unfit but we looked so much calmer on the ball when he came on, we actually played in triangles for just about the first time this season which was nice. yes but of we are relying on someone as brittle as Kewell to have even a semblance of a functional midfield then we are stuffed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Just goes to show how badly this team needs a competent number 10. Harry's inclusion made us look so much better, if we can get him to stay on the park then it will definitely improve us. If not, we definitely need to be looking for someone who can play that role, and that certainly isn't David Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 We are undefeated when Kewell plays... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Zero goals while Kewell is on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Kewell and Hoffman...the keys to our team ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 We are undefeated when Kewell plays... Haha given his little game time you could extend that to we are undefeated when in the match squad. What do you reckon, just kit him up every week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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