Southerner Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Farce continues if he is next MH Coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I reakon he was made captain as part of his signing. Will only sign for heart if I get the armband...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 First as tragedy, then as farce. Let's just get rid of him FFS, along with Aloisi. I don't mind having a horrendous season provided we start to rebuild. What's happening now is just torture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Perhaps he's deliberately self-harming to avoid humiliating himself by playing in this team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 'Tis going to a beautiful day tomorrow... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 You couldnt make this shit up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 theres things that are jokes and shambles. then theres Harry Kewell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I don't mind having a horrendous season provided we start to rebuild. What's happening now is just torture. I agree. The truth is we are going to have a horrendous season anyway, so why not take some action now so that things will actually improve at some point (instead of just slowly getting worse). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I don't mind having a horrendous season provided we start to rebuild. What's happening now is just torture. I agree. The truth is we are going to have a horrendous season anyway, so why not take some action now so that things will actually improve at some point (instead of just slowly getting worse). this. we are only damaging Aloisi's reputation further by letting him continue as coach. get a new manager, and give him the rest of the season to work out who is staying and going - looking ahead to next season. but imo Aloisi still can be involved in the club - he has valuable experience and could really help develop the likes of Gol-Gol, Williams, Mauk etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 'Tis going to a beautiful day tomorrow... That's a good farken follow through IMO and notice that the club head has just glanced the tee causing it to jump out of the ground reaching around head height. Harry is Awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphine Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Some of the shit that is posted on this forum is mind boggling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 What a mess. This happened when Fred was our captain as well. Fred only started 11 games (and was subbed on in a 12th game) in our 2nd season, and of course he was ridiculously injury prone last season. And now it's happening again. We have a 'captain' that's not playing. I can't help but wonder, how much does that alone hurt our club? Across multiple seasons, our captain, the player who's meant to be the standard bearer, doesn't even play and train for the majority of the season's rounds... Our players are deprived of the motivation of the captain being in the team. Indeed, the fragile egos in our team are probably made all the weaker by our captain not being around. Members and the public see Heart week in week out without the designated leader, and surprise surprise the team often seems rudderless... We need change now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 No, Fred played 19 games each of his two seasons.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I don't mind having a horrendous season provided we start to rebuild. What's happening now is just torture. I agree. The truth is we are going to have a horrendous season anyway, so why not take some action now so that things will actually improve at some point (instead of just slowly getting worse). this. we are only damaging Aloisi's reputation further by letting him continue as coach. get a new manager, and give him the rest of the season to work out who is staying and going - looking ahead to next season. but imo Aloisi still can be involved in the club - he has valuable experience and could really help develop the likes of Gol-Gol, Williams, Mauk etc.. Agree. I pretty much have given up hope of us making the finals. I just want change. Turn Aloisi into some other coach at the club, like a 'development coach'. Maybe he can coach the youth team, or maybe not, just get him away from our senior team and put him in the background. A new manager will motivate the players. They'll have to prove themselves to him, so they should perform, at least somewhat better than what they are doing now. And stand Kewell down as captain, if he's not released, and give the armband to someone like Wielaert, Kisnorbo or Murdocca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Had enough. The club is a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 No, Fred played 19 games each of his two seasons.. My bad, I was using the Wikipedia statistics, which I just double-checked and noticed they were not up to date. Couldn't find any other statistics quickly (the stats about former players on the Heart website seem to be gone). Nonetheless the point still stands. Having the captain miss approx a third of the season really isn't good, and now Kewell is missing much more football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I don't mind having a horrendous season provided we start to rebuild. What's happening now is just torture. I agree. The truth is we are going to have a horrendous season anyway, so why not take some action now so that things will actually improve at some point (instead of just slowly getting worse). this. we are only damaging Aloisi's reputation further by letting him continue as coach. get a new manager, and give him the rest of the season to work out who is staying and going - looking ahead to next season. but imo Aloisi still can be involved in the club - he has valuable experience and could really help develop the likes of Gol-Gol, Williams, Mauk etc.. Agree. I pretty much have given up hope of us making the finals. I just want change. Turn Aloisi into some other coach at the club, like a 'development coach'. Maybe he can coach the youth team, or maybe not, just get him away from our senior team and put him in the background. A new manager will motivate the players. They'll have to prove themselves to him, so they should perform, at least somewhat better than what they are doing now. And stand Kewell down as captain, if he's not released, and give the armband to someone like Wielaert, Kisnorbo or Murdocca. i would be giving the armband to Redders tbh Aloisi should be the forwards coach... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 I don't mind having a horrendous season provided we start to rebuild. What's happening now is just torture. I agree. The truth is we are going to have a horrendous season anyway, so why not take some action now so that things will actually improve at some point (instead of just slowly getting worse). this. we are only damaging Aloisi's reputation further by letting him continue as coach. get a new manager, and give him the rest of the season to work out who is staying and going - looking ahead to next season. but imo Aloisi still can be involved in the club - he has valuable experience and could really help develop the likes of Gol-Gol, Williams, Mauk etc.. Agree. I pretty much have given up hope of us making the finals. I just want change. Turn Aloisi into some other coach at the club, like a 'development coach'. Maybe he can coach the youth team, or maybe not, just get him away from our senior team and put him in the background. A new manager will motivate the players. They'll have to prove themselves to him, so they should perform, at least somewhat better than what they are doing now. And stand Kewell down as captain, if he's not released, and give the armband to someone like Wielaert, Kisnorbo or Murdocca. i would be giving the armband to Redders tbh Aloisi should be the forwards coach... Both of those changes are fine with me. The main thing is removing Aloisi and probably Kewell from their current positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Confirmed by the MH twitter page: @MelbourneHeart: The Club can confirm Harry Kewell will not feature against @adelutd_fc 2moro... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 No, Fred played 19 games each of his two seasons.. Correct. 1437 minutes in season 1, and 1255 minutes in season 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 The next time harry will play will be in the derby. I guess you could say he's a derby specialist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 The next time harry will play will be in the derby. I guess you could say he's a derby specialist But he's never scored in a derby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 We are likely to see Engelaar at AAMI Park before we see Kewell 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Orlando deserves a rousing reception for his first game for us, I'm surprised he's still stuck around to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southerner Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Orlando and Kewell have had a similar impact for us this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Does Orlando play golf? Nice weather for golf tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexiano Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Seriously. They just have to put him on the squad and not sub him on. Why the constant slap in the face. We're not stupid. I certainly didn't expect him to play this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyheart Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY!!!!!!! (even if it is a minimum wage contract) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 Like I said... Melbourne Heart LEGEND!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted November 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 He golfs when he wants, He golfs when he wants, Harry Kewell, He golfs when he wants 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 He golfs when he wants, He golfs when he wants, Harry Kewell, He golfs when he wants Good chant for tomorrow in the second half 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 At the end of the day this cunt won't play more than 10 games this season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 This is a management issue. He declared himself fit to play on 3rd November against Brisbane, but Aloisi refused to let him. So he went and played golf instead. Afterwards Aloisi said he had "permission" to do so - I don't believe a word of that. So here we are four weeks later. He trains by himself at Gosch's Paddock, not even in Heart gear, and then the following day at Epping it's said his ankle has flared up again, he's 40% fit and Aloisi won't risk him. There's much more to this than a purported "ankle injury." It's a man-management issue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 He golfs when he wants,He golfs when he wants,Harry Kewell,He golfs when he wants Good chant for tomorrow in the second half Please do it. I'll shout Yarraside (including minors) a carry tray of vb gold, each. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted November 30, 2013 Report Share Posted November 30, 2013 (edited) This is a management issue. He declared himself fit to play on 3rd November against Brisbane, but Aloisi refused to let him. So he went and played golf instead. Afterwards Aloisi said he had "permission" to do so - I don't believe a word of that. So here we are four weeks later. He trains by himself at Gosch's Paddock, not even in Heart gear, and then the following day at Epping it's said his ankle has flared up again, he's 40% fit and Aloisi won't risk him. There's much more to this than a purported "ankle injury." It's a man-management issue. H has no confidence in the coaching ability of JA. He has played under Houllier and Benitez and seen impressive managers up close and he thinks to himself that JA couldn't get himself out of a wet paper bag. Wouldn't be surprised if JA has lost other senior players such as Wielaert and Kisnorbo. These guys have played in top leagues and can compare JA with other coaches and they don't have faith in him. Edited November 30, 2013 by HEARTinator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyheart Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 My under 14's football coach was some toothless bum who had no idea and for some reason wanted to coach a jnr team. You'd never see a bunch of kids give less fucks when it came to training. No respect what so ever. But at the end of the day we still wanted to play, kick goals and win. Moral of he story is that It's natural to want to play win and score. If this is between Harry and the managers then he has some problems and shouldn't be around the club. He's a selfish cunt. If he hasn't got the desire then hang up the boots and let us sign someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I don't see any real evidence to support these conspiracy theories. By far the most likely scenario is that he is struggling to overcome an injury, and the club are being somewhat coy about revealing all the details. The only mistakes by the club so far in relation to Harry have been signing him and making him captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 I've heard from my source in the club that the medical team advised that Kewell's ankle wasn't ready and that he shouldn't play. Aloisi insisted that he train and now he's further injured the ankle even more. D'oh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Was he at the game today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGaffer Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Was he at the game today? Foxsports have a photo of him at the game on their website http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/a-league/melbourne-heart-and-adelaide-united-play-out-thrilling-33-draw-at-aami-park/story-e6frf4gl-1226772419157 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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