Jimmy Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) Whilst Barton would likely give us the best on field performance out of the three, there is not a chance that he'll come to Heart. He's also a much smaller name and would probably be way too expensive for us. Can see him in the MLS in the next few years. Ronaldinho would be immense, both on and off the field. But he's still a few years away from considering the move, unless we offer him mega bucks that we don't have. Raul is the right age and in the right situation to come to the A-League. He'd bring in the people, create headlines and I'd back him to be able to perform as well. Raul's the man for mine. Edited April 7, 2013 by Jimmy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Anyone else thinking that with all this talk, we still wont sign a marquee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Anyone else thinking that with all this talk, we still wont sign a marquee? Yes. Because at the end of the day it's all about braking even. We'll probably end up signing this bloke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Anyone else thinking that with all this talk, we still wont sign a marquee? Yes. Because at the end of the day it's all about braking even. We'll probably end up signing this bloke: Too dear! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 (edited) Mark van Bommel would be a great addition to our midfield, currently signed to PSV until the end of this season, but as a former captain for Bayern and Netherlands who has also played for Barca and Milan he's the sort of defensive midfielder who would provide a lot to our team and may be worth a prolonged courtship by the club. http://www.transfermarkt.com/en/mark-van-bommel/profil/spieler_3515.htmlhttp://www.transfermarkt.com/en/mark-van-bommel/profil/spieler_3515.html so he's affordable and would really give us a good midfield alternative to Gerhardt who could stay at CB. He would be a very good on-field leader, he was captain at Bayern so he wouldn't put up with the sort of performances we have put in this season Edited April 7, 2013 by belaguttman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Anyone else thinking that with all this talk, we still wont sign a marquee? It's defiantly all reactive talk from the board and I'd be very surprise if we signed a marquee. But it's fun to dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Marquees are outside the salary cap, will attract some financial help from FFA, extra money from sponsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 ...and I'd suggest that, having had our Chairman reported as saying that we were going to look at signing a marquee (albeit with some caveats attached), it would be a huge let-down for supporters if the club reneged on that. More than anything we need some hope for the future after such a miserable season, and I think the Board's awake to that. Next season FFA will be paying the wages up to the salary cap, so much of the financial constraint on the poorer clubs will have been removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Marquees are outside the salary cap, will attract some financial help from FFA, extra money from sponsors. also because of the ffa covering the cap thats an extra 2.5 to play with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 Dylan, on 08 Apr 2013 - 00:21, said:belaguttman, on 07 Apr 2013 - 21:42, said: Marquees are outside the salary cap, will attract some financial help from FFA, extra money from sponsors. also because of the ffa covering the cap thats an extra 2.5 to play with~$1.3m, clubs were paying only half, not the whole lot, from their own pockets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbobbobmarley Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 If we do actually sign a marquee, it'll be some no-name european/brazillian or a little known aussie like Valeri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddersss Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Would love to have van Bommel here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Wouldn't mind Walter Samuel, expires at the end of the current season. Not a huge name, but love the bloke as a player. I think Scott McDonald contract expires at the end of the year, polarises a lot of people, but good Melbourne boy that could bang them in given the right service. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Would love Scott McDonald, but not on marquee wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Would love Scott McDonald, but not on marquee wages. I'd take him on an Australian Marquee wage if Garcia doesn't already take up that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Scotty Mac and Raul up front with Gracia behind them in a 4-4-2 diamond. Chuck Duga and Germano on the sides and use Gerhardt as the DM. Madaschi and Vranks at CB with Jezza on the right and a new international on the left. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) Heart has made two recent statements about signing a marquee, which were: one from the chairman Peter Sidwell on Feb 18, "We anticipate picking up somebody appropriate for the club to move forward. We haven't identified anyone yet but the player will pick himself when we find the right one," Sidwell said. "We'll look even more aggressively than before about trying to get a player or players that will make a demonstrative difference." (source: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-heart-in-market-for-marquee-signing-after-lucas-neill-miss/story-fnddhv0x-1226580652565) And one statement from CEO Scott Munn on March 29: Heart chief executive Scott Munn refused to discuss marquees specifically but revealed that the owners would be loosening the purse strings next season. "The board have agreed to invest greater funds on the football budget next year and we expect that will result in an improved performance on the pitch," Munn said. "That's predominantly for the playing budget. But marquees a completely separate conversation. (source: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-heart-battles-to-draw-a-crowd-in-bid-to-avoid-wooden-spoon/story-fnddhv0x-1226609130309) The good thing about both these statements is that they tell us the club might pursue a marquee (as hinted at by Sidwell), AND that the club will spend more money on players regardless. Both of these developments are real good. Regarding marquees, Western Sydney have shown that you don't need to have a marquee that non-football people have heard of to have a very influential and successful marquee. I confess, I hadn't heard of Shinji Ono before he came to Western Sydney, but I've tuned in to watch the Wanderers play multiple times so I could watch Ono play. Another thing going for the Ono-type of marquee is that they are players that make the team better, because they were signed with team compatibility in mind. A marquee that is compatible with the team will help the team win games, and will help build crowds and members by driving on-field success. Sydney FC possess the classic big name marquee, that non-football people might have heard of. And as Sydney showed, because ADP was signed for his name and not his ability to fit in a team, the team failed on the pitch. Sure, they've sold a lot of jerseys, but personally I'd rather on field success. I reckon Giorgos Karagounis and Mark van Bommel (and Pirlo and maybe Ronaldinho) could do for Heart what Ono did for the Wanderers. So thats why I'd like to sign a marquee of that variety. After today's departures, it has to be said, I'm a lot more optimistic about Heart's squad and footballing potential. If we just spend well and sign 6,7 or 8 quality players for next season, including one or two very good internationals who (like Gerhardt) can be a starter for most of next season, then I reckon we'll win lots of games and finish high up the table. And if that happens, I couldn't care less about a marquee. Edited April 8, 2013 by Murfy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 (edited) I'm pleased you dug those out because it's best we know precisely what was said rather than assume what was said. I felt at the time that Sidwell was more positive ('We anticipate picking up somebody...') about a marquee than was Munn, who IMO rather watered down what was attributed to his boss. Edited April 8, 2013 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damiano Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Pirlo would be huge for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartinHobart Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Scotty Mac and Raul up front with Gracia behind them in a 4-4-2 diamond. Chuck Duga and Germano on the sides and use Gerhardt as the DM. Madaschi and Vranks at CB with Jezza on the right and a new international on the left. As good as that sounds theres more chance of jarrod gilett becoming a good referee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam.mich Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Stefan Baricevic is a very young player and plays very well and very strong think he would be a very good addition to the squad and starting 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Pirlo would be huge for us Yes, he'd cost as much as the whole league at the moment. He's younger than ADP, still playing for Italy and the heart of Juve's game. we are better chasing players who are a little older, retired form international football like Raul, Mark van Bommel or Javier Saviola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz.heart Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Dejan Stankovic can basically run our midfield on his own as well as score ripper goals from outside the box. his a leader (which we badly need) and will help build crowds. ... and yes his retired from international football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Phil Neville 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Neville? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Pirlo would be huge for us seriously ffs. he is still Italy's best player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbitm Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I reckon luca Toni is possible. Played with adp and Bresciano at al nasr so I could see him coming here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStig Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Hi all I've just been watching Guizou v CCM and was impressed with Zatalan Muslimovich. His goal was an awesome strike. Would he be high profile enough for what we need? http://ph.sports.yahoo.com/news/former-udinese-parma-paok-striker-zlatan-muslimovic-joins-043100301--spt.htmlhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlatan_Muslimovi%C4%87 He's about the right age and probably will be off contract soon. cheers Peter Edited April 9, 2013 by pberrett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronny Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 I'd rather Misimovic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Neville is leaving Everton. Just saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Neville Neville out of retirement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Do we really want an English-style player at MHFC? Bring Dunga out of retirement! Edited April 9, 2013 by Tony999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Diamanti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Vinny Jones 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Vinny Jones Agreed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Play Simon Colosimo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Vince Colosimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Jacob Colosimo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAiDaN66 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Arshavin. <-- could happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petercrouch Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 joey FUCKING barton for the thousandth time... he can hack archie in the derby and be a national hero... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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