Luke Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Gutted. dont want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperfuzz Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Have we made a bad signing since Koren? edit: I am drunk and instantly realised how stupid that post was. Malik will go good though I reckon. Edited January 23, 2016 by hyperfuzz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) Mauk was paid inside the cap. Melling and Marino are our 2 young players who are paid outside the cap. Quite possibly we have saved a little money with Tando going and Bouzanis coming in, but it would have been very little (Tando was likely on 100k or less). Williams (reportedly on roughly 300k a season) is the substantial reason Melbourne City now has a lot more cap space. Gameiro would still be getting paid, and his salary would keep going towards the cap, as per normal for injured players. The only way to make use of injured players' salary cap earnings is to sign injury replacement players, which is why there's often speculation over clubs signing injury replacement players, as the earnings of injured players can be something of a windfall. All up though Melbourne City is continuing to impress with it's transfer business, with Malik being another quality addition. Edited January 23, 2016 by Murfy1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 26 minutes ago, Murfy1 said: Mauk was paid inside the cap. Melling and Marino are our 2 young players who are paid outside the cap. Quite possibly we have saved a little money with Tando going and Bouzanis coming in, but it would have been very little (Tando was likely on 100k or less). Williams (reportedly on roughly 300k a season) is the substantial reason Melbourne City now has a lot more cap space. Gameiro would still be getting paid, and his salary would keep going towards the cap, as per normal for injured players. The only way to make use of injured players' salary cap earnings is to sign injury replacement players, which is why there's often speculation over clubs signing injury replacement players, as the earnings of injured players can be something of a windfall. All up though Melbourne City is continuing to impress with it's transfer business, with Malik being another quality addition. Where did you get the idea that player who was injured wouldn't be payed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 42 minutes ago, Murfy1 said: Mauk was paid inside the cap. Melling and Marino are our 2 young players who are paid outside the cap. Quite possibly we have saved a little money with Tando going and Bouzanis coming in, but it would have been very little (Tando was likely on 100k or less). Williams (reportedly on roughly 300k a season) is the substantial reason Melbourne City now has a lot more cap space. Gameiro would still be getting paid, and his salary would keep going towards the cap, as per normal for injured players. The only way to make use of injured players' salary cap earnings is to sign injury replacement players, which is why there's often speculation over clubs signing injury replacement players, as the earnings of injured players can be something of a windfall. All up though Melbourne City is continuing to impress with it's transfer business, with Malik being another quality addition. Hasn't Caceres come in as an injury replacement for Gameiro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 43 minutes ago, Luke said: Where did you get the idea that player who was injured wouldn't be payed ? *Paid. I was writing in response to this above: 1 hour ago, silva10 said: The[n] there is Gameiro's salary. The suggestion that Gameiro's salary, seemingly because he is injured, is somehow something the club can use. The only line of reasoning that could be deduced is that because he is injured his payments don't count towards the salary cap; in a sense he is not paid with salary cap money. It was an attempt at clarification--Gameiro, injured or not, gets paid for the remainder of the season, with all his payments counting towards the salary cap. Hence Gameiro's salary is not an issue. I'm not 100% myself why Gameiro's salary was suggested as a possible issue for discussion. It isn't official that Caceres is the injury replacement for Gameiro. There was nothing about Caceres being the injury replacement for Gameiro in the club announcement here: http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/city-signs-caceres-on-loan/xyob1l8519vq19a9wnyad672u. Although it was reported multiple times that Caceres is the replacement for Gameiro, and for the further reasons above I think it is probably true. Hopefully the club clarifies who is an injury replacement (Caceres? Fitzgerald? Malik?) and who is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Murfy1 said: *Paid. I was writing in response to this above: The suggestion that Gameiro's salary, seemingly because he is injured, is somehow something the club can use. The only line of reasoning that could be deduced is that because he is injured his payments don't count towards the salary cap; in a sense he is not paid with salary cap money. It was an attempt at clarification--Gameiro, injured or not, gets paid for the remainder of the season, with all his payments counting towards the salary cap. Hence Gameiro's salary is not an issue. I'm not 100% myself why Gameiro's salary was suggested as a possible issue for discussion. It isn't official that Caceres is the injury replacement for Gameiro. There was nothing about Caceres being the injury replacement for Gameiro in the club announcement here: http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/city-signs-caceres-on-loan/xyob1l8519vq19a9wnyad672u. Although it was reported multiple times that Caceres is the replacement for Gameiro, and for the further reasons above I think it is probably true. Hopefully the club clarifies who is an injury replacement (Caceres? Fitzgerald? Malik?) and who is not. Well I was under the impression that if a player is out for the season, we could bring in an injury replacement player not exceeding the injured player's salary. In effect, even though the injured player gets paid by the club, only the replacement player's salary counts towards the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, Murfy1 said: *Paid. The cheek of this guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Fitzgerald is the IRP for Gamiero, so his wage doesn't count towards the cap as it would be less of what Gamiero was earning. Bouzanis is on less than Velaphi, saving us a few dollars. Caceres & Malik's wages would fill in the hole left by Williams & Mauk's departure. So we have 1 Spot left on the Roster to replace Koren. And a Guest spot if we choose to use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 9 hours ago, silva10 said: Well I was under the impression that if a player is out for the season, we could bring in an injury replacement player not exceeding the injured player's salary. In effect, even though the injured player gets paid by the club, only the replacement player's salary counts towards the cap. The injured players salary still counts towards the cap. It is the injury replacements salary up to the injured players salary that doesn't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 will be very interesting to see where he fits in when the full squad is fit. very healthy for the club to have genuine competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluka Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 And that may be one of the advantages of having him in the side, it says to our defenders 'get your ass into gear, otherwise we have a competent player on the bench who will replace you' Will it be enough to tighten up the defence or us to win the title? Not sure, but we're going to have to if we are going to win anything this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayv36 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 The Big O will be great for City, if he can remain injury free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Can Malik play has a defensive midfielder? I think if we can have good protection for the defence it will help us stop leaking goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfc_10 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 1 hour ago, silva10 said: Can Malik play has a defensive midfielder? I think if we can have good protection for the defence it will help us stop leaking goals. He's a Defensive Midfielder who can play as a Centre Back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, wfc_10 said: He's a Defensive Midfielder who can play as a Centre Back. In that case I would rather him play there alongside Erik when he is fit enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Thought he made a solid debut last night. Once he settles in he should be a regular starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Didn't realise what a big unit he is, almost made Patty look small Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Can actually pass unlike Paartalu 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 2 hours ago, Melburnian said: Can actually pass unlike Paartalu He has a good passing game but you do realise he passed it straight out at 1 point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted January 26, 2016 Report Share Posted January 26, 2016 48 minutes ago, Shahanga said: He has a good passing game but you do realise he passed it straight out at 1 point? I did think of that pass as I wrote what I did. It's not a common think with Malik but with Paartalu it is every week! In saying that I thought Paartula was good save from his passing at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I think he's settling in well and I could see him becoming a bit of an unsung star for us. Still not sure why Malik is 'Mah-leek' when it's a given name and 'Mell-ick' or 'Mah-lick' when it's a surname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Discovered that in Arabic Malik means king or leader. Wikipedia also says that independently the poles have a similar word that means small. The urban dictionary though is more of a Strider definition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXG Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Made a lot of mispasses against CCM, could not win a single aerial duel against CCM #19 (Kisnorbo had to step in and eat that guy alive) but he still looks promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 1 hour ago, MXG said: Made a lot of mispasses against CCM, could not win a single aerial duel against CCM #19 (Kisnorbo had to step in and eat that guy alive) but he still looks promising. What,, you must have been at a different game to me then. I saw him win plenty of aerial duels against CCM and plenty of well directed passes, ok some misdirected passes and some under hit passes but then others were just as guilty of them as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXG Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 39 minutes ago, johnno cpfc said: What,, you must have been at a different game to me then. I saw him win plenty of aerial duels against CCM and plenty of well directed passes, ok some misdirected passes and some under hit passes but then others were just as guilty of them as well. Not against #19. That guy owned Osama. At the moment he is quite behind departed Eric, but he can be much much better than him very soon. Just an observation, have nothing against Malik. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Josh Bingham? Have to disagree with you on that one mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXG Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Tommykins said: Josh Bingham? Have to disagree with you on that one mate. Yep, him. Just look at replay of the first half. Malik won zero in the air. Actually he "won" once but gave away a free kick. Kisnorbo had to step in. On the presser JVS explained that he asked Malik to play higher. Kisnorbo never lost in the air to this guy. Second half #19 just tired and was not a threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melburnian Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Thought Malik was terrific against CCM. Massive presence in the middle of the park. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 4 hours ago, MXG said: ..... At the moment he is quite behind departed Eric ..... Bahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jozzy Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 2/23/2016 at 6:54 PM, Melburnian said: Thought Malik was terrific against CCM. Massive presence in the middle of the park. I thought so too, broke play up really well in midfield and offered Kisnorbo/Wilkinson a lot of support. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Le Cube Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 On 23/2/2016 at 6:54 PM, Melburnian said: Thought Malik was terrific against CCM. Massive presence in the middle of the park. He made 1 tackle for the entire match. What a presence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, Jacques Le Cube said: He made 1 tackle for the entire match. What a presence. Paolo Maldini had the world's shittest career by that mark. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Le Cube Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 minute ago, Tommykins said: Paolo Maldini had the world's shittest career by that mark. What? You mean this Paolo Maldini? I'm not saying Malik is crap or that he had a bad game, just saying that he was not a colossus in the middle of the park, breaking up all of the Mariners attacking play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 24, 2016 Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Tommykins said: Paolo Maldini had the world's shittest career by that mark. Unlike that cultured defender 'we must talk about' Kevin Muscunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Melburnian Posted February 24, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Jacques Le Cube said: He made 1 tackle for the entire match. What a presence. Hmmm cause I thought there was more to being a presence than just tackling? My mistake! To me he was great. Broke up play, positioned himself well and protected the back 4 well. Presence. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 19 hours ago, Melburnian said: Hmmm cause I thought there was more to being a presence than just tackling? My mistake! To me he was great. Broke up play, positioned himself well and protected the back 4 well. Presence. Don't disagree but TBH half this forum could have looked pretty good against that mob. The test will be when we play the better sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveart Posted February 26, 2016 Report Share Posted February 26, 2016 Did well tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Melbourne City's Osama Malik relishes quick return to old club Adelaide March 8, 2016 Michael Lynch Osama Malik, Melbourne City's newly-signed defensive utility, is looking forward to Friday night's clash with the Reds more than most games. Until a few weeks ago Malik was an Adelaide player, until he moved to Melbourne in the deal that saw youngster Stefan Mauk return to his hometown club after spending three years at City. "I am not at all nervous to be playing Adelaide. It will be funny playing in front of friends and family against a team you played for," Malik said on Tuesday afternoon. The 25-year-old believes that too much was read into Adelaide's slow start to the season. Often the performances were much better than the results, he said. "If I am being honest there was a lot made about the start they had, but I didn't think they were playing particularly badly. At the moment it seems everything is going their way." Malik was signed by John van 't Schip largely because of his ability to cover several positions, and he is happy to be a jack of all trades – a defender or midfielder – than a specialist in just one spot. "I like being adaptable, I have spent a lot of time as a central defender as well as playing as a holding midfielder. It's important as you play in a lot of positions and formations in the modern game." The Reds are riding high, but Malik is confident that his City colleagues – who won 4-2 at Hindmarsh earlier in the season – have the quality to get a result against the table toppers. "It's funny in this game how important momentum can be. Guillermo Amor has got them working more as a defensive unit and they have been hard to beat ... but with the quality we have going forward we will win games if we keep our own defensive structure tight." http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/melbourne-citys-osama-malik-relishes-quick-return-to-old-club-adelaide-20160308-gndeq0.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 If he wasnt one of the best on ground that would be a travisty. Totally tea bagged the midfield tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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