morphine Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 There's a tipping point in renewals of season-tickets - where attendances reach a certain % of the capacity of the stadium - such that in order to get the seat/active position that you like you need to take out a season-ticket rather than take pot luck on matchday. It's somewhere in the range 60-70%, and both Victory and WSW have reached that point.The bigger the stadium you play in compared with your average home attendance the less reason there is to buy a season-ticket unless you are sure you'll get to most matches and hence save dollars over the season. Otherwise, it's better to be a walk-up on matchday. If all clubs played in smaller stadiums you would see season-ticket sales rise dramatically.It's basically a supply/demand issue.Good god. If only it was that simple. You absolutely have a point in that once a certain percentage of seats are sold it becomes more beneficial to become a member. I don't believe that's the only factor though, or that it is the major factor. If all clubs played in smaller stadiums you would see almost identical season ticket sales I'd wager. Arguably less, depending on other circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Heartspur Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Is it worth getting the City Class? I wouldn't mind paying the extra coin if it means nice seating and view. Anyone have any experience? A great view of dull football. Would wait til we have a new coach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphine Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 JVS will take us to the title this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 There's a tipping point in renewals of season-tickets - where attendances reach a certain % of the capacity of the stadium - such that in order to get the seat/active position that you like you need to take out a season-ticket rather than take pot luck on matchday. It's somewhere in the range 60-70%, and both Victory and WSW have reached that point.The bigger the stadium you play in compared with your average home attendance the less reason there is to buy a season-ticket unless you are sure you'll get to most matches and hence save dollars over the season. Otherwise, it's better to be a walk-up on matchday. If all clubs played in smaller stadiums you would see season-ticket sales rise dramatically.It's basically a supply/demand issue.yeah but what about adelaide, they have the smallest stadium in the entire league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 JVS will take us to the toilet this year. fixed 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnibari Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 We're not doing too badThe Jets are doing even worse than I thought they would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Jets are actually at over 5000 now, the renewals weren't counted with the above 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityslicker09 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Would the visitors need to cap their membership? Assuming say 25K members sign up, Doesn't leave much room for GA to rock up game day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Jets are actually at over 5000 now, the renewals weren't counted with the abovethat makes sense.the numbers were so low my first thought was that they had an anti-FFA season ticket strike (that I hadn't heard about before). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 So even after advertising on a billboard on City Rd, an FFA Cup win, a Uruguayan striker signing and Aaron re-signing for 3 years, memberships have well and truly fallen behind last season:After 7 weeks (49 days) last season we had 668 more members and on this date a year ago we had 1,122 more members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriente Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 dat plateau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 The big spike will come when we sign pirlo on the guest player stint. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) The only way to attract fans is by playing exciting, attacking winning football.I believe we can really improve with the signings of our two attacking fullbacks.What we need is a good start and then people will come Edited August 11, 2015 by silva10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Now membership numbers are behaving like we all expected. As a result of everything that happened last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 The only way to attract fans is by playing exciting, attacking winning football.What we need is a good start and then people will come If I had a dollar every time someone has said this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I´m not really arsed about memberships but I wonder how it rhymes with the statement from Scott Munn.. He might have some explaining to do if he was telling porkies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I´m not really arsed about memberships but I wonder how it rhymes with the statement from Scott Munn.. He might have some explaining to do if he was telling porkies I hope 14k members is one of his KRAs...We better win the first Melbourne derby (Rd2) and first home game (Rd3) to have any chance of getting anywhere near 10k members. ...Unless we get Pirlo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnibari Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I hope 14k members is one of his KRAs...We better win the first Melbourne derby (Rd2) and first home game (Rd3) to have any chance of getting anywhere near 10k members. ...Unless we get Pirlo Fuck the memberships, we'd better win the first Melbourne derby (Rd2) and first home game (Rd3) full stop. (Have we ever won our first home game of the season?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Fuck the memberships, we'd better win the first Melbourne derby (Rd2) and first home game (Rd3) full stop. (Have we ever won our first home game of the season?)we've looked like we might win a few before conceding random goals through shit defending. Does that count? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Once against victory ironically at the dome remember McAllister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Once against victory ironically at the dome remember McAllister?That was an away match, not a home match.We have never won our first home match of the season. And this season, the first home match is against CCM, our bogey side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Fuck the memberships, we'd better win the first Melbourne derby (Rd2) and first home game (Rd3) full stop. (Have we ever won our first home game of the season?)You realise this is the 'Memberships' thread hence my point about the impact of winning the derby and first home game would have on memberships.If I was writing in the "Season 2015/16 Expectations" thread, I'd have written exactly what you wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 That was an away match, not a home match.We have never won our first home match of the season. And this season, the first home match is against CCM, our bogey side.my apologies, I misread Yeh our home form usually stinks at the start of season but once we get going we are usually hard to beat, evident of last season form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 That was an away match, not a home match.We have never won our first home match of the season. And this season, the first home match is against CCM, our bogey side.Perfect. The mark of a team on the right track is putting a hoodoo to bed, best possible way to start the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityHeart Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Looking at the table, it is pretty clear that for most clubs, there is no need to buy a membership!Take us, even Sydney FC. In relation to the stadiums we use, there is never a chance of filling it up, so need to for the 'reserved seat' (thats all a membership is at the end of the day) to take off.The membership culture in this town was born out of smaller, suburban AFL clubs - and if you didnt reserve your spot you could miss out entirely. There is absolutely no fear of that in the A-league, except for Victory or WSW. Victory was in many ways lucky, in that they were the only club from the start, and had a monopoly for so long (IMHO the biggest stuff up the A-league did was not starting 2 Melb and Syd teams - could take generations to rectifiy in melbourne) and that coupled with a comparatively small Aami Park, means that membership urgency is created for them. In the case of WSW, a small stadium for them in addition to historical boundaries in the city creates this.If we played in a 10K stadium, perhaps urgency could be expected. I have tried to get people to sign up, got some last year - but the probably is for these Melbourne City fans is that they can pick and purchase the games they want to, and it is all easy. A membership isnt an option unless you go many games and are specific as to where you want to sit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 what about it being cheaper to buy a membership than to buy a seat every week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/membership-money-back/md3wi27s5nme1jmlrj2kfkk92lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/membership-money-back/md3wi27s5nme1jmlrj2kfkk92lolrefunds before the season's even kicked off can't be a good thing, did Mooy die? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted August 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/membership-money-back/md3wi27s5nme1jmlrj2kfkk92lolSo that's to get people signing up as a member with the hope they might be one of the 7000+ to have their membership refunded? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/membership-money-back/md3wi27s5nme1jmlrj2kfkk92lolI don't get it?This is a strange one, no one is going to signup on the hope they might have their membership refunded.So why are they doing this?I suppose it barely costs them anything, and even if it entices 2 people to signup it's worked, but still can't see it doing much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 i see it more as just a bonus reward for 1 memberrecently the club announced who won the member get member promo, find it very tough to #believe that someone referred 33 people, surely it was just someone abusing 2 game memberships? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 It's just the headline that amuses me - "Membership Money Back." When I saw the e-mail my first reaction was that all memberships were going to have to be refunded for some reason. What they really mean is "Win a Free Membership" or something like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) It's just the headline that amuses me - "Membership Money Back." When I saw the e-mail my first reaction was that all memberships were going to have to be refunded for some reason. What they really mean is "Win a Free Membership" or something like that.I also like the line "one lucky member get their full season membership reimbursed" Reminds me of the posters at train stations saying that if they dont meet their KPI's customers may be entitled to compensation. Maybe they should set a list of targets they have to meet during each game and if they dont, every member gets reimbursed a % of their admission. The funds can come from JVS's paycheck. Would put an end to the boring football pretty quickly Edited August 13, 2015 by KSK_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Looking at the table, it is pretty clear that for most clubs, there is no need to buy a membership!Take us, even Sydney FC. In relation to the stadiums we use, there is never a chance of filling it up, so need to for the 'reserved seat' (thats all a membership is at the end of the day) to take off.The membership culture in this town was born out of smaller, suburban AFL clubs - and if you didnt reserve your spot you could miss out entirely. There is absolutely no fear of that in the A-league, except for Victory or WSW. Victory was in many ways lucky, in that they were the only club from the start, and had a monopoly for so long (IMHO the biggest stuff up the A-league did was not starting 2 Melb and Syd teams - could take generations to rectifiy in melbourne) and that coupled with a comparatively small Aami Park, means that membership urgency is created for them. In the case of WSW, a small stadium for them in addition to historical boundaries in the city creates this.If we played in a 10K stadium, perhaps urgency could be expected. I have tried to get people to sign up, got some last year - but the probably is for these Melbourne City fans is that they can pick and purchase the games they want to, and it is all easy. A membership isnt an option unless you go many games and are specific as to where you want to sit.Well said. I agree with those points. The club should be doing more to create a sense of momentum around the club, and urgency to sign up. One sure way to do that would be to play more pre-season games in Melbourne that supporters could come and watch. Right now the club is doing the opposite, by playing few pre-season games in Melbourne and trying to keep hushed-up the few games it does (such as the match against the Newcastle Jets this Sunday).The several month off-season and pre-season is interminably long, and every A-League club should be doing all they can to engage with supporters over this terribly long period. Melbourne City could start by announcing tomorrow that they are playing Wellington at AAMI Park in the Round of 16... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 The several month off-season and pre-season is interminably long, and every A-League club should be doing all they can to engage with supporters over this terribly long period. I've begun to think that this is actually the most important message that supporters need to get through to HQ, but I have no idea of how we can do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 So that's to get people signing up as a member with the hope they might be one of the 7000+ to have their membership refunded? Lolone of 14k apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moraiwe Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Sounds like a great way to feel a part of the team. 1-in-7000 odds of winning are about the same as the players' chances of winning silverware with this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 Engagement of supporters during the off season??? Well there was a great opportunity to run events for supporters involving our smaller brother team Manchester City while they were in town for the ICC tourno. And guess what? To not put too fine a point on it - IT WAS A COMPLETE FCUKING STUFF UP!!! Asking people to go to Queensland to watch us play a friendly against our supposed CFG member team was completely moronic. Manchester City was in town and Melbourne City was no where to be found A wasted opportunity to promote the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I got my membership again but tbh I'm not sure why.I had strongly disagreed with all who said "heart is dead, city is a new club"I was wrong, they were right. So I will be there with my other 3 tragic supporters, watching the game, but I have to ask........How do you guys motivate yourself to love this new shiny.....thing, I'm struggling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted August 13, 2015 Report Share Posted August 13, 2015 I love watching live football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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