Parrot Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 See foxsports.com.au However, according to the report Frank Lampard, like David Villa, will not be here for the season. He will be playing with us to stay fit before moving to our owner's MLS franchise New York City in time for their season. So he's effectively another guest player. What do folks think about us being used in this way to help New York City? In this the way folks want our club to be run? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dearg is bán Posted July 1, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 In this the way folks want our club to be run? No. I'd rather we sign the 'Maltese Messi' and go 19 matches without a win instead of signing players from the best leagues in the world. How quickly people forget. Imagine if a year ago someone said we'd have David Villa for 10 matches this season! 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 In this the way folks want our club to be run? No. I'd rather we sign the 'Maltese Messi' and go 19 matches without a win instead of signing players from the best leagues in the world. How quickly people forget. Imagine if a year ago someone said we'd have David Villa for 10 matches this season! Mate you have summed it up perfectly! i would give you 50 likes if I could 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 We are being used in this way because NYCFC are not playing until 2015.... when we prep for 2015-16 season our pre season and signings will have little to do with NY. Also, for the city group, I believe NY would be of higher importance and priority than Melbourne, but us being secondary behind them isnt a bad thing considering we still are going on one hell of a well structured and professional roller coaster 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yampy Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 If having Villa and Lampard playing 10 games each for us is being used, its like comparing Kylie Minogue using me for sex. Bring it on. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Couldn't care less if its only for 10 games.. As a Chelsea fan I'm over the moon about this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Lampard and Vila could set us up for a Home Final by the time they have left... like how Madaschi's short stay at Heart set the club's up for it's only ever final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braveheart Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 like how Madaschi's short stay at Heart set the club's up for it's only ever final. Fucken Malloy... scarin him off! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 So the two best players in our club's history will be leaving halfway through the season? Second half of the season will be interesting then... imagine how much it will unbalance the team. Don't like the way we're already becoming New York's pre-season training camp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 So the two best players in our club's history will be leaving halfway through the season? Second half of the season will be interesting then... imagine how much it will unbalance the team. Don't like the way we're already becoming New York's pre-season training camp. Do you want villa and lampard to play for us as opposed to them not having anything to do with us? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I see it a little differently as in the effect it will have on our 'fringe' players. Surely they will be driven to fight for these spots in the team once the big names go? I can't see how it wouldn't make players such as Ramsay, Williams, etc better. There will be no room for complacency now. If they don't there will always be someone else driven to take these spots. For me it's just a win-win situation for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Keep in mind there is also the January transfer window before Villa and Lampard need to depart.. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Inmyheart I don't want us to base our entire season around the first 10 games and leaving a gaping hole in the squad for the rest of the season. Awesome to sign such incredible players but what effect will it have on our finals campaign if they leave halfway through? That's my only issue with this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 People need to take into account that when villa and lampard leave the club will likely replace them with someone. Obviously not the same quality but you don't just leave a hole like that when you shit 100k every morning. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) People need to take into account that when villa and lampard leave the club will likely replace them with someone. Obviously not the same quality but you don't just leave a hole like that when you shit 100k every morning. Nah, we should play Willow as our Number 9 and Hoff as our number 10 all season because nobody else is ever going to want to sign them... This way we will never have fill in any gaps. :wormy: Edited July 1, 2014 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schrecky Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 can you even have 2 guest players? or does he take up a spot in the 23 and leave half way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Pretty sure you can onlY have one guest stint player meaning Lampard would be on loan. But loan players are within the cap, and there is no way we could afford Lampard within the salary cap. Some dodgy financing will probably be taking place between New York and us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I'm amazed people are complaining about this. While it may be disruptive to lose Villa and Lampard after ~10 games surely we would not win more games for the season if they don't play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Pretty sure you can onlY have one guest stint player meaning Lampard would be on loan. But loan players are within the cap, and there is no way we could afford Lampard within the salary cap. Some dodgy financing will probably be taking place between New York and us. not really dodgy.. we did the same thing with Behich last season iirc Potentially: Redmayne Germano Kisnorbo Wielaert Garrucio Mooy Murdocca Lampard Villa Kennedy Duff Still hoping for one more quality CM in a similar role to Engelaar, and a left back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Pretty sure you can onlY have one guest stint player meaning Lampard would be on loan. But loan players are within the cap, and there is no way we could afford Lampard within the salary cap. Some dodgy financing will probably be taking place between New York and us. pay him minimum for his stint from our cap. NYCFC will pay the big bucks when he gets their. People need to take into account that when villa and lampard leave the club will likely replace them with someone. Obviously not the same quality but you don't just leave a hole like that when you shit 100k every morning. Exactly right... Someone mentioned that Ronaldinho's contract ends at the end of the year. I can only hope and dream that we get a player of that caliber!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Here is the rule surrounding loans if anyone is interested https://twitter.com/dougkors/status/483792212648402944 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredinho69 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Frankie Lampard DE DE DE DE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Kennedy will join when Villa leaves. Lampard will probably be international marquee and we can replace him with another international marquee when he leaves. No problems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attack11 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Not sure how the guess player element works and if you can have 2 at anyone time? Is it possible that either Villa or Lampard will be used as an international marquee? Example Villa guest player to leave after round 10. Lampard international Marquee leaving in February.. (1 month before MLS begins) Lampard being the older of the 2 might not need to do a pre-season with NYCFC, and getting game time until MLS starts might suit.. On a side note: The Rubbish that is Victory announce the signing of Mark Milligan... and we announce the Signing of Frank Lampard ... enough said.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HeartFc Posted July 1, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I can imagine the vic mongs are probably coming up with a negative spin on this to make themselves feel better. Forever in our shadow. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Not sure how the guess player element works and if you can have 2 at anyone time? Is it possible that either Villa or Lampard will be used as an international marquee? Example Villa guest player to leave after round 10. Lampard international Marquee leaving in February.. (1 month before MLS begins) Lampard being the older of the 2 might not need to do a pre-season with NYCFC, and getting game time until MLS starts might suit.. On a side note: The Rubbish that is Victory announce the signing of Mark Milligan... and we announce the Signing of Frank Lampard ... enough said.... One guest player per season. See Tesla's post above for the likely set-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 This is nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) I can imagine the vic mongs are probably coming up with a negative spin on this to make themselves feel better. Forever in our shadow. They're always good for a laugh. A comment I saw in regards to them potentially signing Delpierre: "At least we're signing good players for more than 10 games". As far as I'm concerned, Duff > Delpierre Edited July 1, 2014 by King Malta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mus-28 Posted July 1, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Anyone who doesn't see this as a positive thing needs to have Marteaux shoot fireworks into their anal cavity. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 We are being used in this way because NYCFC are not playing until 2015.... when we prep for 2015-16 season our pre season and signings will have little to do with NY. Also, for the city group, I believe NY would be of higher importance and priority than Melbourne, but us being secondary behind them isnt a bad thing considering we still are going on one hell of a well structured and professional roller coaster Your right there. This year we can maximise some of the value from the NYCFC signings, but moving forward we will hopefully be able to find our own position in the group. Being the number 3 priority for CFG (1/ Man City, 2/ NYCFC, 3/ Melb City, 4/ Yokohama) would still be a better position to be in than we were before the takeover. Australia is a smaller market, which makes sense why it is prioritising its $100 million licence fee investment in its NYC venture over us. NYC is a big market, with a growing market for our game in that country, they would be crazy not to try and focus much of its attention on it this year. We are a club that has its foundations already set up, with tweaking of its structure and a renewed focus on investing in taking us to the next level required. Its a lot less capital intensive than the NYC venture will be. Next I hope to hear news on new facilities, as that is a key plank of our future viability really, and where we can add value to CFG into the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Anyone who doesn't see this as a positive thing needs to have Marteaux shoot fireworks into their anal cavity. yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Pretty sure you can onlY have one guest stint player meaning Lampard would be on loan. But loan players are within the cap, and there is no way we could afford Lampard within the salary cap. Some dodgy financing will probably be taking place between New York and us. not really dodgy.. we did the same thing with Behich last season iirc Potentially: Redmayne Germano Kisnorbo Wielaert Garrucio Mooy Murdocca Lampard Villa Kennedy Duff Still hoping for one more quality CM in a similar role to Engelaar, and a left back. I am drooling at that side as laid out , go you red and white.!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Fucking awesome Still feels weird though going from signing maycon to signing villa and lampard. Usually the club by this time is feeding us some bullshit about how their training real well and how their ready for a big season. Nice to actually see their talking with their signing's not their mouths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Pretty sure you can onlY have one guest stint player meaning Lampard would be on loan. But loan players are within the cap, and there is no way we could afford Lampard within the salary cap. Some dodgy financing will probably be taking place between New York and us. not really dodgy.. we did the same thing with Behich last season iirc Potentially: Redmayne Germano Kisnorbo Wielaert Garrucio Mooy Murdocca Lampard Villa Kennedy Duff Still hoping for one more quality CM in a similar role to Engelaar, and a left back. Villa and Kennedy won't be here at the same time. Kennedy will join after the j-league season, which conveniently coincides with Villa leaving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I know it is basically already confirmed by my source says that Lampard should arrive when our contingent return back from Manchester in late July, along with Duff and Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 So they will be here for the FFA cup game. Interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyHeart Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Pretty sure you can onlY have one guest stint player meaning Lampard would be on loan. But loan players are within the cap, and there is no way we could afford Lampard within the salary cap. Some dodgy financing will probably be taking place between New York and us. not really dodgy.. we did the same thing with Behich last season iirc Potentially: Redmayne Germano Kisnorbo Wielaert Garrucio Mooy Murdocca Lampard Villa Kennedy Duff Still hoping for one more quality CM in a similar role to Engelaar, and a left back. Still cant see us being a serious consistent contender with our fullbacks and GK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhitePride Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Sydney away is now an even bigger must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 I know it is basically already confirmed by my source says that Lampard should arrive when our contingent return back from Manchester in late July, along with Duff and Villa. I thought it had been stated Villa would come a month or so before the season. By the time they get back, its around 2 months he would be here. Duff is said to be coming within the next few days from what I read. Lampard, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Only difference is Lampard would take up a Visa spot and be within the cap as a loan player for his time here. I'm sure we're not paying him more than minimum wage for obvious reasons. Villa is outside the squad/cap as a guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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