Defibrillator Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Well to quote Seinfeld "I'm speechless........I'm without speech!". This is a perplexing decision at best. The greatest indictment against Aloisi was that not one player as an individual improved during his tenure. The whole squad went backwards as a team, but pretty well every individual did too - an incredibly poor reflection on his ability to coach technical skills and match development. This is a core skill for any coach at any level, be it juniors or professionals. With his history as a player he should have been able to pass on knowledge gleaned over his career. He failed miserably. I hope Brisbane know what they're in for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Have to disagree there in the sense that these are full grown men playing, so it's not about 'development' but about using their attributes for the good of the team. The development phase for them should have happened a decade back if not more. Aloisi simply couldn't man manage and his recruitment of players was poor on the whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defibrillator Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) I think Niko we are seeing players in the A league with technical deficiencies unfortunately who need some improving. I don't think the talent pool is deep enough to ensure everyone who arrives at the A league is a finished product. I agree it "should" have happened earlier, but it's not always the case. Williams first touch and Ramsays right foot spring immediately to mind as well as Murdoccas shooting. Throw into that decision making and game smarts - a great deal of raw talent arrives that needs work. Under JA everyone went backwards. Edited May 28, 2015 by Defibrillator 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Have to disagree there in the sense that these are full grown men playing, so it's not about 'development' but about using their attributes for the good of the team. The development phase for them should have happened a decade back if not more. Aloisi simply couldn't man manage and his recruitment of players was poor on the whole. Â I would be surprised if this was ever the case. Players do improve technically and tactically. I dare say that the current version of Messi is a bit better than last seasons version. Otherwise the game would be static. Once they get old and their physical speed starts to wane that is when their tactical nous comes in. So I do believe that players will require technical coaching all the way through. Â As for the A-League, well we won't see the fruits of youth development for a few more years yet. So until that stage all of our home grown players will have technical deficiencies. And finally I have watched games where Christiano Ronaldo was plagiarising Williams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Honestly, the bloke was such a cunt while coaching Heart and afterwards, never taking the blame and just making excuses, I actually hope he does really badly. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hakz7 Posted May 28, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Honestly, the bloke was such a cunt while coaching Heart and afterwards, never taking the blame and just making excuses, I actually hope he does really badly.Why should he have taken the blame, he was just unlucky. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) The worrying thing is, roar have some seriously talented youth that have had almost a whole season of game time due to all the injuries roar had. They played ok and got to the finals. I really hope aloisi doesn't destroy their development. It will be a detriment to the league Edited May 28, 2015 by Tonyboozeadams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 The worrying thing is, roar have some seriously talented youth that have had almost a whole season of game time due to all the injuries roar had. They played ok and got to the finals. I really hope aloisi doesn't destroy their development. It will be a detriment to the league Fear not, you know he never plays youth players out of fear they may make mistakes. Probably the best thing for them is they won't get any game time under him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 perhaps he can recruit some of his former signings/ players  there are a few spuds that we can offload to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I wonder how long before they realise they've made a decision that will set their club back 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 perhaps he can recruit some of his former signings/ players there are a few spuds that we can offload to him Willo and redmayne to brisbane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I've always found it funny how sporting clubs are dictated to by supporters opinions rather than the actual credentials of a coach in Australia. It's like any afl coach that gets sacked, it's rare as hens teeth to see them get another chance because the club is worried about the perception with supporters. Aloisi is almost certain to be a better coach than he was last time with regard to greater experience. Whether that is good enough remains to be seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I've always found it funny how sporting clubs are dictated to by supporters opinions rather than the actual credentials of a coach in Australia. It's like any afl coach that gets sacked, it's rare as hens teeth to see them get another chance because the club is worried about the perception with supporters. Aloisi is almost certain to be a better coach than he was last time with regard to greater experience. Whether that is good enough remains to be seen. From Desiree to Pontiac. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rass Posted May 29, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I really do not understand this decision, whichever way I try and cut it... What on earth does this dude have on his CV that would make a successful multi premiership winning team even remotely consider him?  hmmm, let's see, I've managed to dig it up here...  1 - Scored Goal of The Year to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 2 - Less than 2 full seasons as head coach of Melbourne Heart with 'best in league' ~80% losing ratio. 3 - Scored Goal of The Decade to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 4 - Scored Goal of The Tournament to decide opening game of 2006 World Cup Final v Japan. 5 - Currently flogging over Tara Rushton whilst providing some apparently insightful bullshit on Fox Sports Channel. 6 - Scored Goal of The Century to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 7 - Apparently employed at Victory for a few weeks. Job description unknown. 8 - Currently watching a video of a train in Barcelona somewhere. 9 - Most Valuable Player in a World Cup qualification series due to Best Goal Ever in Football history. 10 - Have nice wardrobe.  Yeah, I can see why he got the job now. Seriously some demented shit going on in Brisbane at the moment.... 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benzema23 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I really do not understand this decision, whichever way I try and cut it... What on earth does this dude have on his CV that would make a successful multi premiership winning team even remotely consider him?  hmmm, let's see, I've managed to dig it up here...  1 - Scored Goal of The Year to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 2 - Less than 2 full seasons as head coach of Melbourne Heart with 'best in league' ~80% losing ratio. 3 - Scored Goal of The Decade to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 4 - Scored Goal of The Tournament to decide opening game of 2006 World Cup Final v Japan. 5 - Currently flogging over Tara Rushton whilst providing some apparently insightful bullshit on Fox Sports Channel. 6 - Scored Goal of The Century to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 7 - Apparently employed at Victory for a few weeks. Job description unknown. 8 - Currently watching a video of a train in Barcelona somewhere. 9 - Most Valuable Player in a World Cup qualification series due to Best Goal Ever in Football history. 10 - Have nice wardrobe.  Yeah, I can see why he got the job now. Seriously some demented shit going on in Brisbane at the moment....  This is gold...  How did we let him go?!?! Sack the board! HAHAHAHA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 opening game of the season, Roar vs City, Roar win 3-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 opening game of the season, Roar vs City, Roar win 3-0. Worst thing about that is it wouldn't surprise me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 opening game of the season, Roar vs City, Roar win 3-0. With 3 own goals and Aloisi will say they were skilful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I really do not understand this decision, whichever way I try and cut it... What on earth does this dude have on his CV that would make a successful multi premiership winning team even remotely consider him?  hmmm, let's see, I've managed to dig it up here...  1 - Scored Goal of The Year to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 2 - Less than 2 full seasons as head coach of Melbourne Heart with 'best in league' ~80% losing ratio. 3 - Scored Goal of The Decade to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 4 - Scored Goal of The Tournament to decide opening game of 2006 World Cup Final v Japan. 5 - Currently flogging over Tara Rushton whilst providing some apparently insightful bullshit on Fox Sports Channel. 6 - Scored Goal of The Century to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 7 - Apparently employed at Victory for a few weeks. Job description unknown. 8 - Currently watching a video of a train in Barcelona somewhere. 9 - Most Valuable Player in a World Cup qualification series due to Best Goal Ever in Football history. 10 - Have nice wardrobe.  Yeah, I can see why he got the job now. Seriously some demented shit going on in Brisbane at the moment....  This is gold...  How did we let him go?!?! Sack the board! HAHAHAHA How the fuck did we hire him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) I heard him say that he feels he's ready to be successful with an aleague team after completing his apprenticeship. In particular his reference to his time at Heart as an apprenticeship shows he knows he had no clue what he was doing. Hope he fails miserably. Edited May 29, 2015 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Aloisi said he would draw on methods he witnessed successfully employed by Spanish giants Barcelona during a week-long stint with the four-time European champions last year. Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/aloisi-confident-restoring-roar-success#iV7xoK3Uv5iWlgBX.99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) Â Aloisi said he would draw on methods he witnessed successfully employed by Spanish giants Barcelona during a week-long stint with the four-time European champions last year. Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/au/news/aloisi-confident-restoring-roar-success#iV7xoK3Uv5iWlgBX.99 Â Â Massive amount of deja vu reading about John Aloisi preparing to coach Brisbane next season. Â He's saying he'll be a much better coach because he visited FC Barcelona, exactly like Aloisi said he'd be a much better coach in the 2013/14 season because he visited Bayern Munich after the 2012/13 season finished. Â And he's saying he'll be a much better coach because he learnt from his mistakes during his last coaching season, in exactly the same way Aloisi said he'd be much better in 2013/14 because he learnt from his many mistakes in 2012/13. Â Â I've heard it all before, so I'm sure Aloisi will fail at Brisbane. I've got no sympathy for the club and it's owners for making such a massively stupid and uninformed decision. But I've got a fair bit of sympathy for Brisbane Roar supporters who have a lot of Aloisi football coming their way. Edited May 29, 2015 by Murfy1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I really do not understand this decision, whichever way I try and cut it... What on earth does this dude have on his CV that would make a successful multi premiership winning team even remotely consider him? hmmm, let's see, I've managed to dig it up here... 1 - Scored Goal of The Year to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 2 - Less than 2 full seasons as head coach of Melbourne Heart with 'best in league' ~80% losing ratio. 3 - Scored Goal of The Decade to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 4 - Scored Goal of The Tournament to decide opening game of 2006 World Cup Final v Japan. 5 - Currently flogging over Tara Rushton whilst providing some apparently insightful bullshit on Fox Sports Channel. 6 - Scored Goal of The Century to solely ensure Australia's qualification to the 2006 World Cup Finals. 7 - Apparently employed at Victory for a few weeks. Job description unknown. 8 - Currently watching a video of a train in Barcelona somewhere. 9 - Most Valuable Player in a World Cup qualification series due to Best Goal Ever in Football history. 10 - Have nice wardrobe. Yeah, I can see why he got the job now. Seriously some demented shit going on in Brisbane at the moment.... 11. Managed to achieve 104 pages on Heart forum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted May 30, 2015 Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 Brisbane Roar are now enjoying Aloisi's outstanding recruiting and squad Management. Â Serbian strike Kaluderovic who wanted to stay and scored 7 goals in 16 games has been released. Â Clearly that sort of performance is not as good as a Mifsud or David Williams. In addition, a slow, over the hill Steffanuto has been given a new contract. Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) This guy fucking irks me so much, as much as I'd like to forget about him, every time he opens his mouth he gives me the shits. Hope he ends up bottom of the ladder. "...but since I left Melbourne Heart or was dismissed from there"...more like infamously sacked. "vowing to stick with the possession-heavy style of football he believes is ingrained into the club's DNA" "Aloisi said he was a "more rounded" coach after a fact-finding trip to Europe, a brief spell coaching juniors at Melbourne Victory and his time spent working for Fox Sports as a pundit" One more.... "If I didn't feel that I was ready, I wouldn't have taken it." Edited May 31, 2015 by n i k o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Brisbane Roar are now enjoying Aloisi's outstanding recruiting and squad Management.  Serbian strike Kaluderovic who wanted to stay and scored 7 goals in 16 games has been released.  Clearly that sort of performance is not as good as a Mifsud or David Williams. In addition, a slow, over the hill Steffanuto has been given a new contract.   Kaluderovic, who can be fitted under the salary cap, works hard on the pitch and in my opinion would do a better job for us than our "marquee" lol striker Kennedy.  But obviously John Aloisi has worked out that Kaluderovic is not good enough for the A League.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post n i k o Posted May 31, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Did you just reply to your own post? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 (edited) How will JA have any chance of gaining respect from his players? His record alone, which I am sure these BR players know at least someone that was at MH at the time he was 'coaching' us, would be enough to make them scratch their heads in amazement. JA's less than 2 full seasons stint with us was some of the most defensive minded, boring and frustrating football imaginable. Now that he gets this job, and visited Barcelona for a few days, somehow he thinks he can stick to the BR's preferred possession based style? Good luck. Edited May 31, 2015 by Heart_fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 Did you just reply to your own post? Yep. First sign of madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Did you just reply to your own post? Yep. First sign of madness. I knew parrot was a parrot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015   Did you just reply to your own post? Yep. First sign of madness. I knew parrot was a parrot  Parrots a good bloke mate lay off him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015    Did you just reply to your own post? Yep. First sign of madness. I knew parrot was a parrot  Parrots a good bloke mate lay off him.  I agree with what he said 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Offseason in full effect. Random topics popping up and cunts talking to themselves. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Wait till Thursday lunchtime. If no announcements of any sort are made then forum may implode. Or we might just find something else to do. Like actual work. NAH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Wait till Thursday lunchtime. If no announcements of any sort are made then forum may implode. Or we might just find something else to do. Like actual work. NAH. You may be onto something Jovan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Wait till Thursday lunchtime. If no announcements of any sort are made then forum may implode. Or we might just find something else to do. Like actual work. NAH. You may be onto something Jovan. Not sure I agree. Actually your both morons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingofhearts Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015     Did you just reply to your own post? Yep. First sign of madness. I knew parrot was a parrot  Parrots a good bloke mate lay off him.  I agree with what he said  Parrots a cunt, your both wrong you dickheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 we still going on about this muppet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Pints Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 J.A. getting another head coaching gig is like Mark Neeld being asked to coach again. Just bewildering. I guess it's good for all the punters out there- the Jets will be favourites for the spoon but Brisbane will give it a massive nudge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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