neio Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Retre doesn't do anything particularly badly but he doesn't do anything spectacular either, I can't really remember an outstanding performance but nor can I remember a shocker He is a perfect squad player as you know 100% what you will get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Squad players are...well, squad players. People complain that Bouzanis is preferred over Sorensen, now others suggest that Kamau, Cahill and Colazo should be benched in favour of a couple of squaddies? We won't get anywhere that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 37 minutes ago, neio said: Retre doesn't do anything Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Retre's a jack of all trades type of player who can fill gaps accross numerous positions. He's not particularly good and he's not particularly bad, but in a league where you've effectively got a 23 man squad (with a few exceptions) and 4 outfielders on the bench players like him are useful squaddies to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Kamau shouldn't start. 99% of his possession lead to nothing and gives the opposition time to get organised at the back. Brandan or even Fitzy need to start for the next few games 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Kamau can offer a lot. He just needs to be instructed to look for the forward pass and to risk losing possession sometimes and he needs better support in attacking transition so that those forward pass options are there. At the moment he's erring on the side of possession and he is often operating in the wing area on his own without passing options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, playmaker said: Kamau shouldn't start. 99% of his possession lead to nothing and gives the opposition time to get organised at the back. Brandan or even Fitzy need to start for the next few games He is equal second in the League with assists (5) just needs to sharpen up his finishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnibari Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, belaguttman said: Kamau can offer a lot. He just needs to be instructed to look for the forward pass and to risk losing possession sometimes and he needs better support in attacking transition so that those forward pass options are there. At the moment he's erring on the side of possession and he is often operating in the wing area on his own without passing options In general I think the team could do better at providing passing options, it's not uncommon to see players with the ball looking around at a sea of opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Kinnibari said: In general I think the team could do better at providing passing options, it's not uncommon to see players with the ball looking around at a sea of opponents. In particular we never seem to have players at the near post, most crosses fail to pass the first defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 6 hours ago, belaguttman said: Kamau can offer a lot. He just needs to be instructed to look for the forward pass and to risk losing possession sometimes and he needs better support in attacking transition so that those forward pass options are there. At the moment he's erring on the side of possession and he is often operating in the wing area on his own without passing options I think that this is part of the problem. Have seen it happen often enough that he bolts forward with the ball only to find that he is the only player there - he should be told that once in a while just have a shot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Retre is just terrible in any position you play him, not even good enough to make the squad, forget about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 17 hours ago, Embee said: Retre's a jack of all trades type of player who can fill gaps accross numerous positions. He's not particularly good and he's not particularly bad, but in a league where you've effectively got a 23 man squad (with a few exceptions) and 4 outfielders on the bench players like him are useful squaddies to have. Very true. If he starts every game though you know you're in trouble. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 23 hours ago, jw1739 said: Squad players are...well, squad players. People complain that Bouzanis is preferred over Sorensen, now others suggest that Kamau, Cahill and Colazo should be benched in favour of a couple of squaddies? We won't get anywhere that way. So you pick players based on their reputation/the coin they earn rather than what they are actually bringing to the team.... That's whats happening now yeh? If someone if labelled a 'squaddie' they don't warrant a starting spot no matter what? This what you're saying? . No one is saying the 'squaddies' are better overall players than the 3 mentioned, but maybe giving some of the bigger names a bit of time on the pine might get them to lift their game accordingly which will only improve our team in the long run. I personally think at the moment we have a situation with too many cooks/flicks/chips/step-overs, we could do we a couple more average grafters in our team to balance the side. Edited January 25, 2017 by LB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 32 minutes ago, LB said: So you pick players based on their reputation/the coin they earn rather than what they are actually bringing to the team.... That's whats happening now yeh? If someone if labelled a 'squaddie' they don't warrant a starting spot no matter what? This what you're saying? . No one is saying the 'squaddies' are better overall players than the 3 mentioned, but maybe giving some of the bigger names a bit of time on the pine might get them to lift their game accordingly which will only improve our team in the long run. I personally think at the moment we have a situation with too many cooks/flicks/chips/step-overs, we could do we a couple more average grafters in our team to balance the side. I think Kilkenny is performing that role to a much higher level than Retre ever could. Retre drifts out of the game far too often to perform that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) The impression I get from this forum sometimes is that if we don't have 23 players who are capable of being a starting 11 player for every side in the competition then we're somehow failing with our recruitment/squad management. Face it, we compete in a salary capped league with heavy squad restrictions, you're going to have average players and guys who are just making up the numbers, it comes with the territory, especially if the top end of your playing list is filled with highly talented players who typically demand more of that salary cap. Edited January 25, 2017 by Embee 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 37 minutes ago, Embee said: The impression I get from this forum sometimes is that if we don't have 23 players who are capable of being a starting 11 player for every side in the competition then we're somehow failing with our recruitment/squad management. Face it, we compete in a salary capped league with heavy squad restrictions, you're going to have average players and guys who are just making up the numbers, it comes with the territory, especially if the top end of your playing list is filled with highly talented players, who typically demand more of that salary cap. But, but, but something, something fold the club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, bt50 said: But, but, but something, something fold the club I miss the Heart and their excellent squads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Tired of all this talk about players. Players are fine. CFG need to sort out the rest of the shit that affects the players and their performances namely...... 1.CFG football philosophy 2.Coaching arrangements ...once these are addressed then look at.... 3. Players and recruitment 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, n i k o said: Tired of all this talk about players. Players are fine. CFG need to sort out the rest of the shit that affects the players and their performances namely...... 1.CFG football philosophy 2.Coaching arrangements ...once these are addressed then look at.... 3. Players and recruitment Well point 1 won't change. Point 2 they have locked in Valkanis till the end of the season and point 3 has pretty much been locked in since the pre season. So basically the bed has been made and everyone just has to sleep in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Jovan said: point 3 has pretty much been locked in since the pre season. So basically the bed has been made and everyone just has to sleep in it. So what is the point of not making it public? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, playmaker said: So what is the point of not making it public? There is none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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