Deeming Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Also its a long week end (kind of). A number of people will take Monday off and head off somewhere and a 4 day weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 29, 2015 Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 Seems to be a bit of buzz about this game, I think mainly from the club, who seem to be promoting it quite strongly. If we could get 8k on a Sunday afternoon we should be disspaointed with anything less than 10k tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 11k tonight. Crowd will flock to see El Tuna.There is only one man on the face of the earth that will constantly bring 11k+ and that man is: SAMARAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryVal Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I'll be there with a workmate - it's still early days with injuries etc but El Tuna is exciting to watch and Mooy just continues to get better and better - we may lose him in January.10,000 easy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 HAL crowds have been down at virtually every game this season, I doubt that we'll crack 8000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 HAL crowds have been down at virtually every game this season, I doubt that we'll crack 8000Just checked the A-League attendance numbers it looks bad: 2014-2015RoundTotalGamesAvg. Per GameRound 190,013518,003Round 2106,082521,216Round 391,836518,367 2015-2016RoundTotalGamesAvg. Per GameRound 164,580512,916Round 284,448516,890Round 372,865514,573Down an average 5000, 4300, 3800 per game.Adds up to being down ~66,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 TV ratings are down as well, compounded by SBS shifting their game to SBS2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 TV ratings are down as well, compounded by SBS shifting their game to SBS2.Time to fold the league i reckon. Make the AFL season longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 TV ratings are down as well, compounded by SBS shifting their game to SBS2.Aside from the SBS results, FOXTEL's are also down. But I seem to recall that Foxtel's numbers are down across the board and I can't find the reference but when Netflix entered the Oz market, apparently within a short time (like a fortnight) foxtel had received tens of thousands of cancellations. So although it is a worry for the next multimedia deal, the case may be that right across the board hence all sports will suffer if foxtel keep losing subscribers. Of course there may be alternatives for the FFA such as allowing a pay per view streaming service but that would imply that the FFA has the cash and vision to go down this route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Pay per view would be great for consumers and also the death knell for Foxtel, a double win for citizens. That's why its unlikely to happen though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Channel 9 news reported yesterday that the attendance at the races this spring have been down. Maybe more of a global thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Before last night our average non-derby Friday attendance was 7,263. So last night's 7,209 was very close to that average.More generally, our average non-derby attendances show, perhaps surprisingly, that Sunday is the preferred day.Averages to date:Friday (14 matches): 7,259Saturday (18): 6,771Sunday (22): 7,676 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 What I took from last night's attendance is that we probably have about 7,000 rusted on fans which is great and is probably comparable as an average across the league but there's no doubt I would like to to see more people get along. I think Villa's visit last season showed that if we get a decent marquee we can really build on attendances. I struggle to see how CFG don't see this and probably put it down to JVS when he gives his list of needs and wants for the come season to the recruiters. The MLS is a pretty decent league now and they are still getting well known marquees to help the brand. It's a no brained for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Before last night our average non-derby Friday attendance was 7,263. So last night's 7,209 was very close to that average.More generally, our average non-derby attendances show, perhaps surprisingly, that Sunday is the preferred day.Averages to date:Friday (14 matches): 7,259Saturday (18): 6,771Sunday (22): 7,676The disappointing thing is that the attendance numbers are not increasing. And there are so many simple ways of doing this now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 The disappointing thing is that the attendance numbers are not increasing. And there are so many simple ways of doing this now. Like finding a coach that knows how to win. Everything else is useless without winning games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 (edited) Before last night our average non-derby Friday attendance was 7,263. So last night's 7,209 was very close to that average.More generally, our average non-derby attendances show, perhaps surprisingly, that Sunday is the preferred day.Averages to date:Friday (14 matches): 7,259Saturday (18): 6,771Sunday (22): 7,676thanks JW. The truth with different days is there will always be different demographics prefer 1 to another, people jumping to conclusions because "Fridays suit them" doesn't take into account that it doesn't suit some others. still it's a bit surprising saturdays are lowest but there you go. Edited October 31, 2015 by Shahanga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 thanks JW. The truth with different days is there will always be different demographics prefer 1 to another, people jumping to conclusions because "Fridays suit them" doesn't take into account that it doesn't suit some others. still it's a bit surprising saturdays are lowest but there you go.Without any evidence other than the number of people on the train going to matches, I've tended to think that Friday and Saturday evenings are less attractive because people are more inclined to party/socialise etc. on those evenings/nights rather than Sunday. Also what seems to be the growing Melbourne trend of many to "go away" for the weekend but be back Sunday afternoon to be more ready for school/work etc. I know that my street is virtually dead at weekends. Sunday kick-offs are usually 5.00 pm, which I hate, but I would think it is more appealing to young families in terms of getting home before too dark/getting the kids off to bed.Again just casual observation but I would say that City does have quite a good following from the "young family" demographic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jimmy Posted November 9, 2015 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 9, 2015 On 09/12/2012, 21:21:25, MrAiDaN66 said: If we ever moved or played at lakeside (south Melbourne ground) we are either going to gain the south Melbourne fans support and/or Something that will probably never happen but, being replaced by south Melbourne itself? What? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD. Posted November 10, 2015 Report Share Posted November 10, 2015 19 hours ago, Jimmy said: What? aids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 SST Tweeted prices to show one reason why our crowds are lower than they should be. @SocStoppageTime: Other prices for Cat A adult Perth $71 Melb city $65 Syd fc $56 Melb $56 Wsw $50 Ccm $49 Nz $46 (aus) Bris $44 Adelaide $42 Newc $37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Please don't use SloppyStoppageTime as a source. Our Premium A isn't the same as the Visitors. Their Premium A is in on the upper level. Ours is next to the coaches box. If you a Premium C Reserve Ticket in Bay 10, its $30 for a Visitors Ticket, $29 for a Melbourne City ticket. GA Melbourne Victory $27, Melbourne City $28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 I still would go see Newcastle for 37 *wouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 18 hours ago, Tommykins said: Please don't use SloppyStoppageTime as a source. Our Premium A isn't the same as the Visitors. Their Premium A is in on the upper level. Ours is next to the coaches box. If you a Premium C Reserve Ticket in Bay 10, its $30 for a Visitors Ticket, $29 for a Melbourne City ticket. GA Melbourne Victory $27, Melbourne City $28 Of course you cannot compare directly all grounds are different but $65 for any ticket is ridiculous when attendance is struggling to even get 9k. Another other comparison (not that I'd go ): Melbourne United basketball - most expensive Premium tickets I can't see (all sold out) - but next most expensive Gold is only $17.33 I've seen a few friends on FB who are posting that they're off to Melbourne United games with their young kids for the first time. Basic economics is supply and demand. Unless attendances are at least 75% capacity prices are too high 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 19 hours ago, Tommykins said: Please don't use SloppyStoppageTime as a source. Our Premium A isn't the same as the Visitors. Their Premium A is in on the upper level. Ours is next to the coaches box. If you a Premium C Reserve Ticket in Bay 10, its $30 for a Visitors Ticket, $29 for a Melbourne City ticket. GA Melbourne Victory $27, Melbourne City $28 If that is true then their Premium A is under cover when ours is largely exposed to wet weather. This season I was fortunate enough to be able to exchange my exposed Prem A seats for two under cover, but only after two seasons of failed attempts to do so. Stores have what are known as "loss leaders" to get people into their premises, because you don't get any sales unless you first get customers into the store. You don't get people interested in football if you don't get them into the stadium in the first place. Common sense tells me that our admission charges are too expensive for what has been on offer over 5+ seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 I am not sure whether someone else has asked questions like who pays for the catering, security, medical staff, and other ancillary staff. Is it the stadium or is it the club? Then there is the question as to how much the stadium itself costs and how the club can recoup some of the expenses. The obvious one is ticket sales but the additional sales of drinks, food, sports paraphernalia will also come into it. Unfortunately I don't know anyone who works in this area to get a good breakdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted November 13, 2015 Report Share Posted November 13, 2015 Talk about attendances, is it any wonder that attendances are down, the way we are playing i am at the moment debating whether to abandon my season ticket and stay at home to watch better football than this club puts on the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFC56 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Can't blame anybody for not wanting to watch the crap performance we're being dished up each week. I live locally so will always go to our home games at AAMI as it's no great inconvience to me, but I sympathise with members who travel long distances to watch us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 For the people on here saying that CFG taking over hasn't helped us at all, just a quick reminder that without their petrodollars it is extremely unlikely that our mate Aaron Mooy would still be at the club. And if that were the case we would be dealing with a midfield like we saw last night every single week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illeatyourheart Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 On 11/14/2015, 12:59:07, GreenSeater said: For the people on here saying that CFG taking over hasn't helped us at all, just a quick reminder that without their petrodollars it is extremely unlikely that our mate Aaron Mooy would still be at the club. And if that were the case we would be dealing with a midfield like we saw last night every single week. It's only becuase he was injured at the end of last season that he is still at this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 (edited) For our last two home games we have had the lowest attendance numbers for the round. Even CCM, Newcastle and Wellington get better numbers. If FFA want well performing teams in the a-league maybe they should fold MCFC before Wellington!! Edited November 15, 2015 by mjake1234 Add Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 16 minutes ago, mjake1234 said: For our last two home games we have had the lowest attendance numbers for the round. Even CCM, Newcastle and Wellington get better numbers. If FFA want well performing teams in the a-league maybe they should fold MCFC before Wellington!! Well I would hope that FFA is putting pressure on the franchise owners to sort out the on field performance quickly. The League will live or die on the next TV deal and MCFC is certainly a 'leaner' not a 'lifter' when it comes to providing a compelling viewing spectacle. Match attendance figures are being carried by the visitors and to a lesser extent WSW, our attendance figures are as embarrassing as they are totally predictable and deserved. I'm sure that attendance figures would be much the same if we were offered free entry to the next home game and a pro rata refund to all existing season ticket holders, people just don't want to come at any cost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyd89 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 It's simple - you don't win people don't turn up. You do stuff like that at home, and people will stop turning up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 1 hour ago, mjake1234 said: For our last two home games we have had the lowest attendance numbers for the round. Even CCM, Newcastle and Wellington get better numbers. If FFA want well performing teams in the a-league maybe they should fold MCFC before Wellington!! That is interesting - I hadn't picked that up. Last season's average attendance excluding the two matches featuring David Villa and the home derby was 8,009. So far this year 7,842. Considering the tripe served up so far - IMO even the 3-1 win against CCM was not impressive - our supporter base has been remarkably loyal. In the end though, is it just a couple of hundred keyboard warriors on here concerned about all this stuff? IIRC someone said there are 50+ support staff out there at CFA Melbourne - and I'm given to wonder WTF they are actually doing about improving things at this very moment - and for eight hours a day five days a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 3 minutes ago, jw1739 said: That is interesting - I hadn't picked that up. Last season's average attendance excluding the two matches featuring David Villa and the home derby was 8,009. So far this year 7,842. Considering the tripe served up so far - IMO even the 3-1 win against CCM was not impressive - our supporter base has been remarkably loyal. In the end though, is it just a couple of hundred keyboard warriors on here concerned about all this stuff? IIRC someone said there are 50+ support staff out there at CFA Melbourne - and I'm given to wonder WTF they are actually doing about improving things at this very moment - and for eight hours a day five days a week. When you see people wearing city merch at our home games and clapping opposition goals you know there's many out there that don't care as much as we do about success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 In the Fan Representative forum Dylan wrote "Was listening to the fox sports podcast. Apparently we have the lowest crowds in the league now. Which makes sense. " They are pretty correct. We have had the lowest attendance in each of our last two home games. Average attendance this year is 7,842 - just better than Perth with 7,616. This compares with CCM 8,188 Wellington 8,671 and Newcastle 11,642 with all other teams having greater averages. The most telling statistic is that this is the worst average attendance in our Heart/City history by far. 14/15 season 10,374 13/14 season 9,799 12/13 season 8,560 12/11 season 9,082 11/10 season 8,312 Other than our first home game by a very slender margin, none of our attendances this year have surpassed these averages. Round 3 - 8,408, round 4 - 7,209 and round 6 - 7,910 Talk about going backwards. If CFG are interested in metrics these should make them stand up. So when are they going to do something about it - like get a coach who can structure a competitive side and regain some interest in this bloody awful club???? (Reference Ultimate a-league) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 @mjake1234 given that we haven't had a home derby yet we really need to compare this season to previous seasons without the derby figures. Home attendance may not be as bad comparatively then although of course in absolute terms its still terrible and unacceptable for a Melbourne club. Of course we all understand why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 13 minutes ago, mjake1234 said: In the Fan Representative forum Dylan wrote "Was listening to the fox sports podcast. Apparently we have the lowest crowds in the league now. Which makes sense. " They are pretty correct. We have had the lowest attendance in each of our last two home games. Average attendance this year is 7,842 - just better than Perth with 7,616. This compares with CCM 8,188 Wellington 8,671 and Newcastle 11,642 with all other teams having greater averages. The most telling statistic is that this is the worst average attendance in our Heart/City history by far. 14/15 season 10,374 13/14 season 9,799 12/13 season 8,560 12/11 season 9,082 11/10 season 8,312 Other than our first home game by a very slender margin, none of our attendances this year have surpassed these averages. Round 3 - 8,408, round 4 - 7,209 and round 6 - 7,910 Talk about going backwards. If CFG are interested in metrics these should make them stand up. So when are they going to do something about it - like get a coach who can structure a competitive side and regain some interest in this bloody awful club???? (Reference Ultimate a-league) The data speaks for itself. As I and many have said in the Fan Rep group thread, winning+silverware will fix our ills. We gave up on winning the FFA Cup when we sent an under-age squad against Perth. JvS must have achieved his KPI for the cup and then said fcuk it. This is the mentality that must be purged from the club starting with the exit of van't Sh!t. Right at this moment I couldn't give a rats about what RBB or Tard fan want to do as far as protesting is concerned. We need to get our house in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphine Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Agree with your point (I think), but all of your stats are invalid. This year will probably be the highest for average attendance ever - after the home derbies are factored in, as with all of the other year-on-year figures you listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundam Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 CFG has all the money in the world. Free game, open the top tier, refund the members for the game. But then again.. We'd probably lose and no one would come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I have a solution to this: sign Samaras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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