jw1739 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, jeffplz said: I really feel sorry for him as a man but he's got to go. Normally I would too. If he had delivered improved on-field performance as a result of his culture change tactics then it would have all been worthwhile. But that has not happened. Instead his focus on performance on the training track rather than on the field has seen a whole lot of perfectly good players leave the club and our star striker suspended. Only Daniel Arzani has come though the youth ranks since he arrived, and Arzani was not a Joyce product anyway. No other City Academy player has come through to hold down a regular starting place in the A-League line-up - Atkinson is the closest, but he has had an indifferent season IMO. I'm afraid that all I can see is every single metric further from the desired mark than before he arrived, and therefore he has to go for the good of the club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Dylan said: If it’s true what’s the point of keeping him until seasons end? Pay out figure. Does he walk without further damaging himself, or does he hang on with the playing group not behind him? Some managers (subjective) would only hang on purely for a better pay out figure. You couldn't imagine a whole host of clubs lining up for Joyce's signature after his dreadful time in Oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Would we consider keeping Joyce in a youth coach or development capacity? Let him work with the academy but stay away from the grown ups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Would we consider keeping Joyce in a youth coach or development capacity? Let him work with the academy but stay away from the grown ups. And let him fu@k them up too? No thanks next plane or boat out please!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Le Cube Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Dylan said: If it’s true what’s the point of keeping him until seasons end? Removing him before his contract ends implies that his appointment was a mistake. Which in turn implies that CFG made a mistake to back Joyce in all the bust ups he had with players and coaches that he didn't like. By letting him stay on until the seasons end CFG can spin some shit like: "Warren played in integral role in the growth and evolution of Melbourne City and will be missed by all those at the club. His tireless efforts have laid the foundation for an exciting future at Melbourne City and we thank him for his commitment to the club and his commitment to playing the posession based football that is synonymous with CFG" Edited February 25, 2019 by Jacques Le Cube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 The main point against his performance is the current ladder position. It's 5th and behind much more limited Adelaide which managed to win the Cup nevertheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Milicic in after Women’s World Cup thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Cloughie said: I hope Bruno is the one chosen to give his farewell speech He would only need to reprise two words from his previous speach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, malloy said: He would only need to reprise two words from his previous speach. Octo & Puss? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Jacques Le Cube said: Removing him before his contract ends implies that his appointment was a mistake. Which in turn implies that CFG made a mistake to back Joyce in all the bust ups he had with players and coaches that he didn't like. By letting him stay on until the seasons end CFG can spin some shit like: "Warren played in integral role in the growth and evolution of Melbourne City and will be missed by all those at the club. His tireless efforts have laid the foundation for an exciting future at Melbourne City and we thank him for his commitment to the club and his commitment to playing the posession based football that is synonymous with CFG" Keep an eye on that farewell I think CFG will be on here and will snap that right up. 3 hours ago, Dylan said: Milicic in after Women’s World Cup thanks I've heard Kewells name mentioned, don't shoot the messenger!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, AntiScum said: Keep an eye on that farewell I think CFG will be on here and will snap that right up. I've heard Kewells name mentioned, don't shoot the messenger!! Would love Kewell got experience young in manager age enthusiastic would be engaging with fans, would be on board with this 100% complete opposite to Joyce. Would be much better at man Management as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, CityBoyz said: Would love Kewell got experience young in manager age enthusiastic would be engaging with fans, would be on board with this 100% complete opposite to Joyce. Would be much better at man Management as well. Would be much more relaxed in Oz and would do a decent job I think. Didn't set the world on fire coaching in the UK but has done an OK job. Knows the league well enough to be able to draw the right players providing there isn't any interference from CFG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Let's have a competition on who can write the most accurate departing article sentence for when he leaves the club "Melbourne City would like to thank Warren Joyce for his efforts during his time at the club, earning our highest ever club finish and developing wonderkid Daniel Arzani over the course of his management." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Would kewell come here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 2 hours ago, citypool said: Would kewell come here?? I can't see why not. Hasn't got a job atm so NOW could be the perfect time. Rest of the year to assess the players whilst also see who stays who goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Why Kewell? Just another inexperienced young coach. Don't want another Aloisi. Next. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Tony999 said: Why Kewell? Just another inexperienced young coach. Don't want another Aloisi. Next. The best coach in the league atm (Popa) did an apprenticeship in the UK similar to Kewell. I'd take Harry any day, he over achieved with Crawley and was doing well under the circumstances at Notts County until everyone turned on him after an interview, they've only got back on track after some huge investment in January. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, mus-28 said: The best coach in the league atm (Popa) did an apprenticeship in the UK similar to Kewell. I'd take Harry any day, he over achieved with Crawley and was doing well under the circumstances at Notts County until everyone turned on him after an interview, they've only got back on track after some huge investment in January. Poppa is a proven successful manager. I wouldn't say the same for Kewell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Tony999 said: Poppa is a proven successful manager. I wouldn't say the same for Kewell. His had 3 management jobs and as stated Mus did pretty well. Also did relatively well at Watford. How can you say his not proven? I think you forgot that Popa was an absolute train wreck in Turkey where he lasted 8 or 9 games. Edited February 25, 2019 by AntiScum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I wouldnt be against H taking over. Maybe we could get Jeep to pay his wages again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dylan said: I wouldnt be against H taking over. Maybe we could get Jeep to pay his wages again Think it will be Nissan & McDonald's this time round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, AntiScum said: His had 3 management jobs and as stated Mus did pretty well. Also did relatively well at Watford. How can you say his not proven? I think you forgot that Popa was an absolute train wreck in Turkey where he lasted 8 or 9 games. Poppa was a train wreck as he arrived in a train that was already wrecked. I just feel Poppa knows the A-league like no other and is currently the best Oz coach. I would take Rudan over Kewell as well. Killed it every season with Syd United and playing some nice football with he NIx. Imagine what e can do with a club like ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Tony999 said: Poppa was a train wreck as he arrived in a train that was already wrecked. I just feel Poppa knows the A-league like no other and is currently the best Oz coach. I would take Rudan over Kewell as well. Killed it every season with Syd United and playing some nice football with he NIx. Imagine what e can do with a club like ours. Imagine what a club like ours can do to him... As for Kewell - senior coaching record of 29.6% wins. No thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Imagine what a club like ours can do to him... As for Kewell - senior coaching record of 29.6% wins. No thanks. Have a look at the teams his coached!! When owners wont fund players. People read too much into stats!! You`re taking a pot shot at Kewells record you might want to Google Joyces record!!! 22 minutes ago, Tony999 said: Poppa was a train wreck as he arrived in a train that was already wrecked. I just feel Poppa knows the A-league like no other and is currently the best Oz coach. I would take Rudan over Kewell as well. Killed it every season with Syd United and playing some nice football with he NIx. Imagine what e can do with a club like ours. No different to Kewell with the train wrecks his walked into. Rudan is Western Melbourne bound so you can rule him out!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 So Ange and Kewell would be front runners? Surely, CFG can get us a better coach with the contacts they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, AntiScum said: Have a look at the teams his coached!! When owners wont fund players. People read too much into stats!! You`re taking a pot shot at Kewells record you might want to Google Joyces record!!! No different to Kewell with the train wrecks his walked into. Rudan is Western Melbourne bound so you can rule him out!! So do you or do you not want to take into account a potential City coach's previous record? League and League Finals records since Day 0: Melbourne Heart/Melbourne City: Win% 35.6 Melbourne City only: Win% 42.2% Warren Joyce era: Win% 44.9. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Ange wont come back to the Aleague. Plus he is in no danger of the sack as far as I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Dylan said: Ange wont come back to the Aleague. Plus he is in no danger of the sack as far as I can see. ...and would he come to us anyway bearing in mind events of the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 53 minutes ago, jw1739 said: ...and would he come to us anyway bearing in mind events of the past? Well his part of the city group now so if the come home factor is in his thinking then yes he would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: So do you or do you not want to take into account a potential City coach's previous record? League and League Finals records since Day 0: Melbourne Heart/Melbourne City: Win% 35.6 Melbourne City only: Win% 42.2% Warren Joyce era: Win% 44.9. Compare apples with apples, apart from Watford (which was a yoof roll) the clubs Kewell has coached have had absolutely zero funds available to him!!! The standard of league 2 in the UK would be on par with the standard of the A League. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 50 minutes ago, AntiScum said: Compare apples with apples, apart from Watford (which was a yoof roll) the clubs Kewell has coached have had absolutely zero funds available to him!!! The standard of league 2 in the UK would be on par with the standard of the A League. We have no funds to spend either, remember our capped budget for marquee players and second grade visa players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Mr MO said: We have no funds to spend either, remember our capped budget for marquee players and second grade visa players. Trying coaching in the lower leagues in the UK where a budget is a few hundred a week compared to just under 4m a year Edited February 26, 2019 by AntiScum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Don't know were to put this, but faq me, do we ever organise to play with anyone?!? Surely, CFG could pounce on something like this and try and sell some memberships https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/epl-giants-liverpool-could-face-melbourne-victory-at-mcg-this-year-20190226-p510cl.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Tony999 said: Don't know were to put this, but faq me, do we ever organise to play with anyone?!? Surely, CFG could pounce on something like this and try and sell some memberships https://www.theage.com.au/sport/soccer/epl-giants-liverpool-could-face-melbourne-victory-at-mcg-this-year-20190226-p510cl.html Well it's not like we have any connections to a huge EPL club is it... oh wait... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Play them on the gold coast 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, rass said: Well it's not like we have any connections to a huge EPL club is it... oh wait... Or indeed any other club such as New York City, Girona, Athletico Torque, Yokohama F. Marinos, Sichuan Jiuniu... Never mind, Simon Pearce says just wait another five years and then you'll be so thankful for all the manna from heaven that CFG brings. Unless you're like those dickheads who live in Salford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 He stamped his authority again with Bruno leaving . Unless, there is collateral damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 What needs to happen to get this man sacked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 Hang on. We just banned David Icke? How is the government blocking a truth teller, yet letting this nutty cult enter the country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayv36 Posted February 26, 2019 Report Share Posted February 26, 2019 CFG can’t view the Joyce appointment as a success. He has single handedly turned off supporters and forced many fan favourites out of the club. And with WMG coming in next season, barring a new manager and big name marquee our memebership will drop dramatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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