Tony999 Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 2 hours ago, Heart of Melbourne said: Anyone know when the membership counter will appear on the website? 01/06/2016 : 7 08/07/2016 : 25,000 (Samaras signs) 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Tony999 said: 01/06/2016 : 7 08/07/2016 : 25,000 (Samaras signs) Heard a VERY interesting rumour about our old friend Georgy. A certain club with certain ties to the Hellenic community are calling themselves "an aleague team in waiting." Well the powers that be are starting to agree I'm told, and old mate Samaras wants to follow in dad and pappous footsteps and will be announced as their marquee when the FFA confirm the expansion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 10 minutes ago, Tony999 said: 01/06/2016 : 7 08/07/2016 : 25,000 (Samaras dies) Fixed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnibari Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 25 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: Heard a VERY interesting rumour about our old friend Georgy. A certain club with certain ties to the Hellenic community are calling themselves "an aleague team in waiting." Well the powers that be are starting to agree I'm told, and old mate Samaras wants to follow in dad and pappous footsteps and will be announced as their marquee when the FFA confirm the expansion. At what age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 39 minutes ago, Tony999 said: 01/06/2016 : 7 08/07/2016 : 25,000 (Samaras signs) Pisser! Samaras will be 70 and you'll still bring him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 4 minutes ago, Kinnibari said: At what age? Well he's still only early 30s, so before his mid 30s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 so how do i get my free scarf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, strider said: so how do i get my free scarf? Easy pay $250 for a membership btw you're one day late Edited June 1, 2016 by Jestr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Just now, Jestr said: Easy pay $250 for a membership Mine auto-renewed. I can't even customise a card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluka Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Club Sport Concession ($) Adult ($) Combined ($) 1 Melbourne City A-League 155 250 405 2 Melbourne Victory A-League 155 238 393 3 Melbourne United NBL 185 185 370 4 Storm NRL 145 210 355 5 Melbourne Demons AFL 145 209 354 6 Carlton AFL 142 210 352 7 Western Bulldogs AFL 140 205 345 8 St. Kilda AFL 135 205 340 9 North Melbourne AFL 140 199 339 10 Collingwood AFL 135 195 330 11 Richmond AFL 129 199 328 12 Hawthorn AFL 134 190 324 13 Essendon AFL 115 170 285 Just a quick look at the cheapest full season membership for sporting clubs in Melbourne. A number of factors coming into play such as number of games played, but the question must be asked...do Melbourne City provide as much value as say a Hawthorn etc? Or, do Melbourne City perceive to provide as much value to customers who are considering to join, as much as their respective AFL club? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Deluka said: Club Sport Concession ($) Adult ($) Combined ($) 1 Melbourne City A-League 155 250 405 2 Melbourne Victory A-League 155 238 393 3 Melbourne United NBL 185 185 370 4 Storm NRL 145 210 355 5 Melbourne Demons AFL 145 209 354 6 Carlton AFL 142 210 352 7 Western Bulldogs AFL 140 205 345 8 St. Kilda AFL 135 205 340 9 North Melbourne AFL 140 199 339 10 Collingwood AFL 135 195 330 11 Richmond AFL 129 199 328 12 Hawthorn AFL 134 190 324 13 Essendon AFL 115 170 285 Just a quick look at the cheapest full season membership for sporting clubs in Melbourne. A number of factors coming into play such as number of games played, but the question must be asked...do Melbourne City provide as much value as say a Hawthorn etc? Or, do Melbourne City perceive to provide as much value to customers who are considering to join, as much as their respective AFL club? Per game : Sport Concession ($) Adult ($) Combined ($) Per Game Club 1 Melbourne City A-League 155 250 405 19.23 2 Melbourne Victory A-League 155 238 393 18.31 3 Melbourne United NBL 185 185 370 ? 4 Storm NRL 145 210 355 16.15 5 Melbourne Demons AFL 145 209 354 19.00 6 Carlton AFL 142 210 352 19.09 7 Western Bulldogs AFL 140 205 345 18.64 8 St. Kilda AFL 135 205 340 18.64 9 North Melbourne AFL 140 199 339 18.09 10 Collingwood AFL 135 195 330 17.73 11 Richmond AFL 129 199 328 18.09 12 Hawthorn AFL 134 190 324 17.27 13 Essendon AFL 115 170 285 15.45 Excepting Essendon, who dropped their membership prices this season for obvious reasons, not really a lot of difference tbh. Edited June 6, 2016 by bt50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 55 minutes ago, Deluka said: Just a quick look at the cheapest full season membership for sporting clubs in Melbourne. A number of factors coming into play such as number of games played, but the question must be asked...do Melbourne City provide as much value as say a Hawthorn etc? Or, do Melbourne City perceive to provide as much value to customers who are considering to join, as much as their respective AFL club? That's a good comparison - we are $50 or 25% more expensive than AFL clubs. Given they all outnumber us in membership and attendance by a long way that really highlights how over priced our memberships are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 8 minutes ago, Deeming said: That's a good comparison - we are $50 or 25% more expensive than AFL clubs. Given they all outnumber us in membership and attendance by a long way that really highlights how over priced our memberships are. We have a longer season though so comparing on a price per game is a far more accurate way to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 3 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: We have a longer season though so comparing on a price per game is a far more accurate way to do it True but its not that different A-League = 13-14 home games AFL = 11 NRL = 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teemac Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 How do you customize your membership cards, I forgot to last year and probably have missed the window to do it again this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 52 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: We have a longer season though so comparing on a price per game is a far more accurate way to do it But is it just about price? I don't know about the Storm or basketball, but don't AFL Members actually have some sort of say in the affairs of the club? Also my impression from what's been said on here is that AFL clubs are better at communication than City is. What about "extras" too? When Heart first started we could go to the Westpac room after every home match and meet the players etc. - that's no longer the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Deeming said: That's a good comparison - we are $50 or 25% more expensive than AFL clubs. Given they all outnumber us in membership and attendance by a long way that really highlights how over priced our memberships are. It could also be a reflection of fixed costs. The more members you have the greater the capacity to drop your membership prices. It a catch 22 situation because if you drop the prices to entice new members but then you may not get enough to budget. Of course this could all be mitigated by CFG willing to tolerate greater losses and drop membership prices and add some more freebies like JW suggested above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 13 minutes ago, jw1739 said: But is it just about price? I don't know about the Storm or basketball, but don't AFL Members actually have some sort of say in the affairs of the club? Also my impression from what's been said on here is that AFL clubs are better at communication than City is. What about "extras" too? When Heart first started we could go to the Westpac room after every home match and meet the players etc. - that's no longer the case. Lel. I'd pay an extra $10 bucks a year not to have to get all the shit mail to do with board elections and shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluka Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 Don't think City provide as much value as all the other clubs listed tbh, last season was the first season I felt the cost matched the product. I think is difficult attracting members who primarily watch and support AFL, naturally they will view AFL as a more premium product than the A-League and would be less inclined to sign up to City with a more expensive price as it would be considered not worth it or overpriced. Cost per game can be a factor but generally speaking the experience of going to the soccer extends for 2 hours and the experience of attending the AFL lasts roughly 3 hours so it probably cancels each other out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 6 minutes ago, NewConvert said: It could also be a reflection of fixed costs. The more members you have the greater the capacity to drop your membership prices. It a catch 22 situation because if you drop the prices to entice new members but then you may not get enough to budget. Of course this could all be mitigated by CFG willing to tolerate greater losses and drop membership prices and add some more freebies like JW suggested above. Absolutely this is a factor but rather than spending money on 4 mascots, multiple support staff, promotions etc take a risk of a bit of a financial hit but I think it will pay off. Eg. at $250/year for instance the club makes $75 (30% is a fairly usual amount) $75 x 12,000 = $900,000 plus everyone buying merchandise Drop to $200/year for instance the club makes $75 (30% is a fairly usual amount) $25 x 18,000 (I think that a reasonable increase) = $450,000 plus an extra 6000 buying merchandise In the end maybe the club takes a hit of $250,000 = 2-3 staff or a component of the advertising budget 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 just with the comparison of membership prices, those afl memberships are probly peasant seats in the forward 50 and maybe level 4 at the g and 3 at etihad also not sure how accurate, collingwood tend to have 3 game memberships for like $90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Thrillhouse said: just with the comparison of membership prices, those afl memberships are probly peasant seats in the forward 50 and maybe level 4 at the g and 3 at etihad also not sure how accurate, collingwood tend to have 3 game memberships for like $90 Reasonably sure they are just General Admission memberships; no reserved seat and subject to capacity. Often that means Level 3 only at Etihad and limited Level 1 at the G. Edited June 6, 2016 by bt50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agoalie Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 How many members we got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 2 hours ago, agoalie said: How many members we got? Email the club and ask them to put the membership counter back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 6, 2016 Report Share Posted June 6, 2016 No doubt it'll go back up when the numbers reach 4 figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphine Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 On 6 June 2016 at 2:24 PM, Deluka said: Don't think City provide as much value as all the other clubs listed tbh, last season was the first season I felt the cost matched the product. I think is difficult attracting members who primarily watch and support AFL, naturally they will view AFL as a more premium product than the A-League and would be less inclined to sign up to City with a more expensive price as it would be considered not worth it or overpriced. Cost per game can be a factor but generally speaking the experience of going to the soccer extends for 2 hours and the experience of attending the AFL lasts roughly 3 hours so it probably cancels each other out. AFL is a more premium product though. AFL = best in the world A-League = best in Australia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 What are you saying Morphine? i have relatives in the UK who have not even heard of the AFL but do know something about the A League and some of the players. I think you are stretching it bit with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 2 hours ago, morphine said: AFL is a more premium product though. AFL = best in the world A-League = best in Australia AFL = best in Australia A League = the local elite division of the worlds biggest and most loved sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morphine Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 Well nah it's not hard. The best AFL players in when world play in Aistralia. It's the pinnacle of the sport, the elite echelon, the best of the best. Do the best soccer players in the world play in Australia? Is it the pinnacle of the sport? The elite echelon? The best of the best? Therefore AFL is a premium product, whereas the A-League is not. How does this effect pricing? In a vacuum your dollar should go further for A-League pricing. We are not in a vacuum, but the theory holds true. Meaning, it's overpriced for the level of the product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 7, 2016 Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 27 minutes ago, morphine said: The best AFL players in when world play in Aistralia. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2016 10 hours ago, morphine said: Well nah it's not hard. The best AFL players in when world play in Aistralia. It's the pinnacle of the sport, the elite echelon, the best of the best. Do the best soccer players in the world play in Australia? Is it the pinnacle of the sport? The elite echelon? The best of the best? Therefore AFL is a premium product, whereas the A-League is not. How does this effect pricing? In a vacuum your dollar should go further for A-League pricing. We are not in a vacuum, but the theory holds true. Meaning, it's overpriced for the level of the product. I wasn't aware that AFL existed in any meaningful form other than in Australia - perhaps a couple of expat teams kicking a ball somewhere, but no real competition. So I don't really think comparisons with AFL make much sense. What I do with my City Premium A foundation membership is a qualitative assessment of what value I get for what I pay - 2*$585 for MrsJW and me. We renewed for next season because last season we were able to move to seats under cover. However, prior to that move it wasn't really worth it, especially in the first two seasons when it seemed to rain every time Heart played at home and we either had to change seats or get wet. I'd summarise our attitude so far as being renewal out of habit rather than eagerness and anticipation for the next season, and I think City is pushing the upper limit of value for Premium A. If I could get seats under cover in Premium B we'd move there for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Busy night signing up Greeks from last night..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 We also had an electronic sign on rotation ''THIS IS OUR CITY" with our badge. The problem is if you don't know what our badge is, then you wouldn't know who the sign was for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Deeming said: We also had an electronic sign on rotation ''THIS IS OUR CITY" with our badge. The problem is if you don't know what our badge is, then you wouldn't know who the sign was for They also played the Membership Ad at half time, the best looking bloke on this forum made an appearance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 1 hour ago, carlings said: Busy night signing up Greeks from last night..... did they manage to cop anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 38 minutes ago, thisphantomfortress said: They also played the Membership Ad at half time, the best looking bloke on this forum made an appearance. They could have at least asked my permission... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 15 hours ago, morphine said: Well nah it's not hard. The best AFL players in when world play in Aistralia. It's the pinnacle of the sport, the elite echelon, the best of the best. Do the best soccer players in the world play in Australia? Is it the pinnacle of the sport? The elite echelon? The best of the best? Therefore AFL is a premium product, whereas the A-League is not. How does this effect pricing? In a vacuum your dollar should go further for A-League pricing. We are not in a vacuum, but the theory holds true. Meaning, it's overpriced for the level of the product. Wow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 2 hours ago, jeffplz said: did they manage to cop anyone? They signed Samaras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Honestly I think the club did well. We always complain that they don't take opportunities like this when they come around. Last night they had a membership tent, the sideline advertising and an add on the big screens at half time. Didn't see anything from victory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 8, 2016 Report Share Posted June 8, 2016 Well done from the club. Absolutely loved seeing the LED advertisement during the game and great to hear they had an advertisement during half time. We can often be a bunch of whinging cunts but credit where credits due. Now, more of this please Melbourne City. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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