jw1739 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Don't know what to think. Clisby is under contract until the end of 2015-16. And he'd have to get permission from Perth to go with us. That's how we signed Jacob Melling and Connor Chapman, by encouraging their A-League clubs to mutually terminate their contracts (and if the players aren't playing regularly, then the clubs are more open to terminating contracts and freeing up salary cap space). So I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Clisby being signed just because he's contracted. Murf, I'm not. I'm saying because he's contracted to Perth I find it hard to believe that he can be going to the UAE with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart_fan Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I thought I read that PG jhad agreed to release Clisby but I could be wrong. Is he the solution for us though. No idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 Contracted players go on trial all the time. No big deal in itself. Hope we have had a look at De Vere. Can't imagine he'd be super keen to run back to Chaos Roar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 I wouldnt take what I said too seriously. The dude I am talking about has been wrong and right in the past. But I posted it because he never mentioned Clisby pre season and it was pretty well known we were after him but Perth wouldnt release (but then Perth was rumored to be offering him to brisbane) And is this "friend" of yours called Dylan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) "Ryan in the Shop Window Come Asian Cup "Australia goalkeeper Mat Ryan says he's open to offers..." http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/05/ryan-shop-window-come-asian-cup Pity we've got another striker as our Australian marquee. We could do with a class goal keeper. Mat Ryan is the sort of player A League clubs should be targeting as an Australian marquee, not players in their 30s winding down their careers. Throw enough money their way that is competitive with what is offered overseas and then the chance to be much closer to family and friends naturally becomes an additional attraction. Edited January 5, 2015 by Parrot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 "Ryan in the Shop Window Come Asian Cup "Australia goalkeeper Mat Ryan says he's open to offers..."http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/05/ryan-shop-window-come-asian-cup Pity we've got another striker as our Australian marquee. We could do with a class goal keeper. Mat Ryan is the sort of player A League clubs should be targeting as an Australian marquee, not players in their 30s winding down their careers. Throw enough money their way that is competitive with what is offered overseas and then the chance to be much closer to family and friends naturally becomes an additional attraction. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted January 5, 2015 Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) "Ryan in the Shop Window Come Asian Cup "Australia goalkeeper Mat Ryan says he's open to offers..." http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/05/ryan-shop-window-come-asian-cup Pity we've got another striker as our Australian marquee. We could do with a class goal keeper. Mat Ryan is the sort of player A League clubs should be targeting as an Australian marquee, not players in their 30s winding down their careers. Throw enough money their way that is competitive with what is offered overseas and then the chance to be much closer to family and friends naturally becomes an additional attraction. EDIT: Beat me to it Malloy Edited January 5, 2015 by King Malta 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2015 TBH I'll believe that we're intending to do something in this transfer window when I actually see it. Van 't Schip seems to be the club's spokesman on everything these days (whatever happened to Didulica and Munn?) and I find his comments ambiguous and fluffy to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) "Ryan in the Shop Window Come Asian Cup "Australia goalkeeper Mat Ryan says he's open to offers..." http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/05/ryan-shop-window-come-asian-cup Pity we've got another striker as our Australian marquee. We could do with a class goal keeper. Mat Ryan is the sort of player A League clubs should be targeting as an Australian marquee, not players in their 30s winding down their careers. Throw enough money their way that is competitive with what is offered overseas and then the chance to be much closer to family and friends naturally becomes an additional attraction. EDIT: Beat me to it Malloy It's very simple. So I don't see what the laugh is about unless folks like an inferiority complex - and I'll agree, an inferiority complex applies to most A League clubs' recruiting when nearly the entire squad by definition must be bargain basement paid players to be fitted into a small salary cap - which means A League clubs are unable to properly compete in the open market. But if an A League club has financial backers who are prepared to spend the money, and that of course is the proviso, then with the marquees not included in the salary cap, an A League club should think big and be prepared to compete with European clubs for talent. That is why the best early 20s overseas Socceroos talent should be prime targets. A young man would enjoy playing football in Australia, being paid multi millions a year and having the added bonus of being in much closer distance with family and friends than playing in Europe earning those same millions a year while being well removed from family and friends. That is why a player like Mat Ryan should be a prime target for any A League club with the appropriate financial backing. Edited January 6, 2015 by Parrot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 "Ryan in the Shop Window Come Asian Cup "Australia goalkeeper Mat Ryan says he's open to offers..." http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/05/ryan-shop-window-come-asian-cup Pity we've got another striker as our Australian marquee. We could do with a class goal keeper. Mat Ryan is the sort of player A League clubs should be targeting as an Australian marquee, not players in their 30s winding down their careers. Throw enough money their way that is competitive with what is offered overseas and then the chance to be much closer to family and friends naturally becomes an additional attraction. EDIT: Beat me to it Malloy It's very simple. So I don't see what the laugh is about unless folks like an inferiority complex - and I'll agree, an inferiority complex applies to most A League clubs' recruiting when nearly the entire squad by definition must be bargain basement paid players to be fitted into a small salary cap - which means A League clubs are unable to properly compete in the open market. But if an A League club has financial backers who are prepared to spend the money, and that of course is the proviso, then with the marquees not included in the salary cap, an A League club should think big and be prepared to compete with European clubs for talent. That is why the best early 20s overseas Socceroos talent should be prime targets. A young man would enjoy playing football in Australia, being paid multi millions a year and having the added bonus of being in much closer distance with family and friends than playing in Europe earning those same millions a year while being well removed from family and friends. That is why a player like Mat Ryan should be a prime target for any A League club with the appropriate financial backing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 MELBOURNE CITY 2014/15 Damien Duff (V)Mate Dugandžić Jonathan Germano (V) Nick KalmarPatrick Kisnorbo Massimo Murdocca Iain Ramsay Pablo Retre Tando VelaphiRob Wielaert (V)2015/16 James Brown Connor Chapman Jason Hoffman Joshua Kennedy (M) Robert Koren (V) (M) Marc Marino* Stefan Mauk Jacob Melling* Aaron Mooy Andrew Redmayne David Williams2016/17 Ben Garuccio2017/18 Eric Paartalu I think it's a decent list for next season. With some GOOD recruitment a very good squad could be assembled. I would not be renewing the guys in bold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 "Ryan in the Shop Window Come Asian Cup "Australia goalkeeper Mat Ryan says he's open to offers..." http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/05/ryan-shop-window-come-asian-cup Pity we've got another striker as our Australian marquee. We could do with a class goal keeper. Mat Ryan is the sort of player A League clubs should be targeting as an Australian marquee, not players in their 30s winding down their careers. Throw enough money their way that is competitive with what is offered overseas and then the chance to be much closer to family and friends naturally becomes an additional attraction. EDIT: Beat me to it Malloy It's very simple. So I don't see what the laugh is about unless folks like an inferiority complex - and I'll agree, an inferiority complex applies to most A League clubs' recruiting when nearly the entire squad by definition must be bargain basement paid players to be fitted into a small salary cap - which means A League clubs are unable to properly compete in the open market. But if an A League club has financial backers who are prepared to spend the money, and that of course is the proviso, then with the marquees not included in the salary cap, an A League club should think big and be prepared to compete with European clubs for talent. That is why the best early 20s overseas Socceroos talent should be prime targets. A young man would enjoy playing football in Australia, being paid multi millions a year and having the added bonus of being in much closer distance with family and friends than playing in Europe earning those same millions a year while being well removed from family and friends. That is why a player like Mat Ryan should be a prime target for any A League club with the appropriate financial backing. Yes but you fail to address an important factor and that is the quality of the league. It's all very well to throw millions at a young aussie to come back to play in Australia but why would they when it would have an hindrance on such things as development, potential future prospects of playing in the best leagues overseas and affect their chances of being involved in the National Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Mat Ryan as marquee. I doubt even the great Christian7 could conjure that as a realistic thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Are we going after luke Devere ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Are we going after luke Devere ? Hope so, doubt we can afford him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 "Ryan in the Shop Window Come Asian Cup "Australia goalkeeper Mat Ryan says he's open to offers..." http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2015/01/05/ryan-shop-window-come-asian-cup Pity we've got another striker as our Australian marquee. We could do with a class goal keeper. Mat Ryan is the sort of player A League clubs should be targeting as an Australian marquee, not players in their 30s winding down their careers. Throw enough money their way that is competitive with what is offered overseas and then the chance to be much closer to family and friends naturally becomes an additional attraction. EDIT: Beat me to it Malloy It's very simple. So I don't see what the laugh is about unless folks like an inferiority complex - and I'll agree, an inferiority complex applies to most A League clubs' recruiting when nearly the entire squad by definition must be bargain basement paid players to be fitted into a small salary cap - which means A League clubs are unable to properly compete in the open market. But if an A League club has financial backers who are prepared to spend the money, and that of course is the proviso, then with the marquees not included in the salary cap, an A League club should think big and be prepared to compete with European clubs for talent. That is why the best early 20s overseas Socceroos talent should be prime targets. A young man would enjoy playing football in Australia, being paid multi millions a year and having the added bonus of being in much closer distance with family and friends than playing in Europe earning those same millions a year while being well removed from family and friends. That is why a player like Mat Ryan should be a prime target for any A League club with the appropriate financial backing. You're surely a troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 MELBOURNE CITY 2014/15 Damien Duff (V)Mate Dugandžić Jonathan Germano (V) Nick KalmarPatrick Kisnorbo Massimo Murdocca Iain Ramsay Pablo Retre Tando VelaphiRob Wielaert (V)2015/16 James Brown Connor Chapman Jason Hoffman Joshua Kennedy (M) Robert Koren (V) (M) Marc Marino* Stefan Mauk Jacob Melling* Aaron Mooy Andrew Redmayne David Williams2016/17 Ben Garuccio2017/18 Eric Paartalu I think it's a decent list for next season. With some GOOD recruitment a very good squad could be assembled. I would not be renewing the guys in bold. Duff has repeatedly said that he is here for one season only. If you keep Velaphi it means you are keeping both Velaphi and Redmayne for next season, effectively meaning that we will not have a proper no. 1 GK. Unless we can unload Redmayne I'm afraid Velaphi has to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrot Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Niko, while you post that playing in the A League will "affect their chances of being involved in the National Team" it seems that the PERSON WHO COUNTS, Ange Postecoglou has made it clear that playing in the A League DOES NOT. Tesla: "You're surely a troll Name calling someone with a different view is NOT the way to prove your opinion is correct. Is calling folks who we disagree with names what we want in this Forum? Just as the folks who thought it was ridiculous for Sydney FC to even think about trying to sign Alessandro del Piero, because European clubs wanted to sign him and there was no way he would stoop so low as to play in our "pathetic little backwater of an A League" were proven wrong, so I expect to see in the not too distant future some elite young Socceroos with many years of top quality football left being chased and signed by A League clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nate Posted January 6, 2015 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Parrot, you have repeated your sentiments on how we can supposedly attract the likes of Leckie, Kruse, Oar and Ryan by "throwing money at them" over and over and OVER again to the point where I am now certain you are actually a real parrot. Once again, these players are not chasing money. They are in the PRIME of their careers and want to develop their game and play football at as high a standard as they are able, and the A-League is not at that standard, so we will continue to only attract older players who have already peaked. That is the reality, and no amount of $$$ will change that in the foreseeable future. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Doesn't matter if Ryan is chasing money , wants to play for Melbourne and we want to throw money at him. Jesus Kennedy is our Oz Marquee until end of next season and Koren is our foreign marquee. The only way we could sign Ryan is under the cap. Anyway even if we could sign him as Marquee, surely the marquee had to be a goal scorer of some sort. In regard to Tony's list at present the only ones I would look at re-signing are Velaphi and Mate and I am certainly not committed to even them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Just saw on twitter .... @FootballCentAU: "Babalj is no longer part of the plans of coach John van den Brom. AZ hope to loan out Babalj." @FootballCentAU: AZ Director of Football Earnie Stewart "We got Eli in 2013 because we saw certain qualities in him. But expectations have not been met." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yes please to Babalj on loan! He'll keep Kennedy on his toes and Williams on the bench! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 MELBOURNE CITY2014/15 Damien Duff (V)Mate Dugandžić Jonathan Germano (V) Nick KalmarPatrick Kisnorbo Massimo Murdocca Iain Ramsay Pablo Retre Tando VelaphiRob Wielaert (V)2015/16 James Brown Connor Chapman Jason Hoffman Joshua Kennedy (M) Robert Koren (V) (M) Marc Marino* Stefan Mauk Jacob Melling* Aaron Mooy Andrew Redmayne David Williams2016/17 Ben Garuccio2017/18 Eric Paartalu I think it's a decent list for next season. With some GOOD recruitment a very good squad could be assembled. I would not be renewing the guys in bold. Duff has repeatedly said that he is here for one season only. If you keep Velaphi it means you are keeping both Velaphi and Redmayne for next season, effectively meaning that we will not have a proper no. 1 GK. Unless we can unload Redmayne I'm afraid Velaphi has to go. Yes, I'm aware of Duff and Velaphi. I was just saying that l would not resign the ones in bold. Velaphi isn't that bad. To me he is getting better and he at least has heart and pride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victards Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 lol babalj for a third time, fuck no. Once was more than enough, another one of many over-rated youngsters. Next 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I'm afraid that I'll only believe something meaningful and forward-looking will happen in this transfer window when I actually see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 babalj = ball bag , its a no from me , please move on from these players we have before ,not a player that wil help us win the title ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I know when it comes to injury replacement new players are permitted to be signed but what happens to the salary cap? Looking at Sydney FC's team how did they manage to fit all those players under that cap and especially the fact that they have signed former Senegalese International Mickael Tavares now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Bring Dooks out of retirement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Babalj scored 9 goals over 18 starts in Melbourne Heart's 2nd season, when he was 18/19. Would take Babalj in a heartbeat. Melbourne City needs multiple capable goal-scoring forwards. Babalj is a proper striker and would be a good backup for Kennedy. Then Williams could be played at LW, where I believe he'd do better. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewmac Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Babalj scored 9 goals over 18 starts in Melbourne Heart's 2nd season, when he was 18/19. Would take Babalj in a heartbeat. Melbourne City needs multiple capable goal-scoring forwards. Babalj is a proper striker and would be a good backup for Kennedy. Then Williams could be played at LW, where I believe he'd do better. scored 1 goal in 9 last time ,so im sure based on that we can get better surely !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 I'd love babalj to come back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 The kid had heaps of talent but it used to piss me off when he got all sooky when someone didn't lay the ball off for him. He'd then proceed to play the next 20 minutes of the game sulking with his head down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruckoo Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) God I hate Baballj, terrible team man. Edited January 6, 2015 by Ruckoo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Babalj's grown up now - Netherlands would've shaken that tall-poppy syndrome outta him! Now he'd wanna prove himself in every game rather than thinking "I'm the shizz, pass me the ball or I'll crack it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonyboozeadams Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 And I think now that the club is bigger than he is, he might knuckle down and play some football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 God I hate Baballj, terrible team man. This, he never passes the ball yet as mentioned above he would sook if it wasn't given to him on a platter. Clinical finisher at A-League level but by the sound of things regarding the AZ situation, he hasn't developed his game a great deal since leaving us and with Kennedy coming I do not want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruckoo Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Just get defenders please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewmelbcity Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 Just get defenders please. This. Should be our only concern. CB, LB and RB (GK though doubt this will get a look in) should be the only positions we should be interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 (edited) Absolutely defenders are a must. But has his game evolved over his time overseas? Do his results overseas prove that he is an improved player that would succeed in our team? If no then do not want. Tired of players being bought because they look good on their highlights reel. Proven recent results or nothing. Edited January 6, 2015 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted January 6, 2015 Report Share Posted January 6, 2015 People saying no to our greatest ever youngster... Pls. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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