Tesla Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 How do we fix it ?Need to extract some of Novillo's balls and give it to JVS. Novillo has too much, JVS not enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 one thing which has always bugged me is that our fullbacks seem to be instructed not to tackle. it's as though they're told "just press your opponent until you're 3 metres away, then stay that far away until they cross". It gives me the shits. JUST TACKLE. that gives me a good idea for a two-stick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 How do we fix it ?We stand up as fans and demand better from CFG. Sunday is a great place to start. Then we get another opportunity the following week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartos Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Someone needs to get a huge sack JVS banner happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Need to extract some of Novillo's balls and give it to JVS. Novillo has too much, JVS not enough.How has Strider not jumped all over this yet?We stand up as fans and demand better from CFG. Sunday is a great place to start. Then we get another opportunity the following week.Nah, not this Sunday, it's our first home game...if we don't get a win then our second home game will be perfect to voice our disgust since it's on Friday night and on SBS, which means our demands will be seen and heard by many more viewers! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Firstly of its fucken ironic that at this exact point in time (I am sure that the circumstances will almost def change) that JA can actually use the old line that the JVS Supporters used to say on here about the team's results being reflection of a bad squad and not bad coaching.Secondly I feel like we have wasted so much time with JVS that it's really going to annoy me that if we do sack him and we hire someone who turns out be another dud (Always a possibility with the hiring of any Manager) because we could have hired this possible dud and gotten rid of him as well in the time it's taking us to sack bloody JVS. Edited October 22, 2015 by cadete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 When you think about it he came into this role again, under Heart, in January last year. That's 20 months now he has had say over the team. Injuries, lack of consistency over 90 minutes, poor mentality once again particularly during derbys. The same results over and over. Can the club please find a coach that is proven and knows what is needed to win titles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 February 2012:"...his genuine legacy to Heart will be felt beyond this year." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyd89 Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I already resent this club. And it's only Round 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Seriously I am starting to feel like I follow the Fremantle of the A-League...Glimpses of false hopes here and there, occasional out the blue winning streaks, periods of sustained crap football and a reluctance to let underperforming coaches who can't win titles go. Edited October 22, 2015 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 February 2012:"...his genuine legacy to Heart will be felt beyond this year." Kind of like nuclear power and Chernobyl 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Kind of like nuclear power and Chernobyl You're having a good day. I can tell. Absolutely brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Kind of like nuclear power and Chernobyl this isn't offensive enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 this isn't offensive enoughOk. How aboutKind of like Australian natives and alcohol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Just a note to Cityslicker, if your going to copy and paste my comments and post them as your own on fourfourtwo with your victory mates at least have the decency to quote me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial Pints Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 this isn't offensive enoughMyki?Jvs & Myki...making Melburnian's lives miserable since 2010 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Just a note to Cityslicker, if your going to copy and paste my comments and post them as your own on fourfourtwo with your victory mates at least have the decency to quote me. yeah cityslicker u sad kentfight me irl nobody fuks with my nikolicious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 (edited) Myki?Jvs & Myki...making Melburnian's lives miserable since 2010LOL - But at least they are working on Myki Cards being replaced by using your smartphone.I wish I could have fucken used my smartphone whilst at home to over ride JVS's crappy tactics and backline selections the other night. Edited October 23, 2015 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Ok. How aboutKind of like Australian natives and alcohol wow thats so racist...getting on my level slowly KS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 LOL - But at least they are working on Myki Cards being replaced by using your smartphone.I wish I could have fucken used my smartphone whilst at home to over ride JVS's crappy tactics and backline selections the other night.Drone from china - $200Eggs - $3Sitting outside the stadium on your smartphone, flying a drone over JVS' head and dropping eggs on him everytime he makes a shit decision - priceless. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Drone from china - $200Eggs - $3Sitting outside the stadium on your smartphone, flying a drone over JVS' head and dropping eggs on him everytime he makes a shit decision - priceless.Your egg budget seems a little low. That will only get you one pack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Your egg budget seems a little low. That will only get you one pack.Also get some Rooster into those eggs for a more rougey colour on JVS's tanned forehead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted October 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 I'm surprised no one in the A-League has tried some drone trolling like the Albanian fans did: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 I'm surprised no one in the A-League has tried some drone trolling like the Albanian fans did: gonna shit on a pic of koren and fly that in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 How has Strider not jumped all over this yet?Nah, not this Sunday, it's our first home game...if we don't get a win then our second home game will be perfect to voice our disgust since it's on Friday night and on SBS, which means our demands will be seen and heard by many more viewers!I can only add that SBS viewing stats have taken a dive so don't expect more viewers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Your egg budget seems a little low. That will only get you one pack.The drone will use all 12 eggs but can then be reloaded when it has to be recharged... at half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 When do we go back to bagging jvs and the offensive comments instead of talking about eggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinnibari Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not keen on the plan they're hatching? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Heartspur Posted October 23, 2015 Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Not keen on the plan they're hatching?It's all just one big yolk! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 is there another club where fans have been asking to have their manager sacked for 6 years continuosly. It's all just one big yolk!Nothing to crow about is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Heartspur Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 is there another club where fans have been asking to have their manager sacked for 6 years continuosly.Nothing to crow about is it?The club just needs to shell out for a decent coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 All I can say is that when Murfy begins to call for the manager's head you know his time is up lolSeriously though everything Murfy said is completely correct. Of course there should have been a couple of changes made. However, the number of changes and positions he made were completely stupid.I would have made four changes myself. Richardson for Paartalu and pushed Retre to midfield. Mauk for Koren, Kuzi for Zullo and Zinni for Dekker.Koren and Zullo's injuries made those ones easy. I don't think Dekker is a wide man and should be held in reserve. Also we needed to know if replacing Paartalu would shore up our midfield.It was madness to make three personnel changes and four positional changes in defence instead of 1. Especially as I don't think the defence overall was bad against the tards.Two of those changes was a kid in Millar, who I thought did okay and Garuccio, who has been out injured for sometime and we all know left back is not his best position.In midfield he chose to select Melling, when it would have been better to start him on the bench. I would have preferred to give Retre a chance in midfield myself. Up front once again young Dekker gave everything, but for me he is a centre forward and is better to come of the bench or start in a 4-4-2 with Bruno.In my opinion JVS has had enough chances and I hope the management will make the change sooner rather than later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 I would have preferred to give Retre a chance in midfield myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiro Kompiro Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Retre I belive was a midfielder. Seem to remember his debut for the other mob sporting rather fetchinghair do against Beckha,;s LA Galaxy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Seeing a lot of this article is about jvs:John van 't Schip's cool, calm and reflective demeanour might make outsiders think the Melbourne City coach doesn't have a hard edge.But the Dutchman showed he was prepared to make tough calls – even if it meant the result didn't come in his favour – when he axed two senior players, club captain Patrick Kisnorbo and defensive midfielder Erik Paartalu, for City's FFA Cup semi final defeat in Perth on Wednesday night.And as he prepared his team to take on Central Coast Mariners at AAMI Park on Sunday, van 't Schip made it crystal clear that leaving out those two big-name players was not a difficult decision. Nor would it be hard for him to send a message to any other senior men in his squad whom, he felt, were not delivering.Advertisement"It's the start of the season, the boys [are] getting chances to play so the competition with players coming back has really started now," he said."Erik didn't play against Perth and it was not because I was resting him, but because I want to see other things, the same with Patrick."That's what I told the group as well, it's [about] the players who I put on the pitch because they deserve that at that moment and probably because I am not happy with other things that I have seen before."They [the youngsters coming in] get the opportunity to show that they can be part of this line-up, and I think that's only a healthy process."Van 't Schip said he had been delivering the "perform or you are out" message since the pre-season and even towards the end of the 2014-15 campaign, when City finished strongly and made the penultimate match of the season, losing the semi-final to champions Melbourne Victory."It's a process of months that we had last year as well. It's something that we are looking at, we are trying to improve, I am not saying they are not improving or doing their best, I am just saying at a certain moment other players are knocking on the door and there's a time that they have to get the opportunity because I probably don't see enough progress in things that I want to see happening with the team."Those things have been told to the players at the end of the last season and the start of this season, it's not coming out of nothing, it's something they have spoken about a few times. In the end players have to work on that and then it's the quality of the player to make that step."If I think that maybe another player can add something different then that's why I am a coach, to try and change something that can maybe help us get to another step. You can do that by giving them instructions, or by changing the player."Asked if the senior men who were left out were shocked to be dropped, van 't Schip shrugged and said: "You should ask them. There is disappointment, but it's football and that's what I told them, you have to fight back and make sure the next game you can be playing."It depends every time again how the team is going, there is competition, it's close, it's not that they are ruled out, it's just again a signal for them but also for other players to make sure that the opportunities that they get, that they take them."Having taken one point out of a possible six and lost the FFA Cup semi-final, the pressure – always there when you are in charge of the richest club in the competition – is building.City will be favourites to see off Central Coast, a team in transition under Tony Walmsley, who is trying to change the personnel and playing style of the club in double-quick time.They beat Perth in their opening match, and then lost 2-1 in Brisbane, so the Mariners have definitely been competitive and van 't Schip has warned his players to be wary of their bucaneering approach."Mariners have shown good energy in their two games, they have nothing to lose and are playing with no fear. I think that's the best thing, you just go out there and play to your possibilities and that's what they are doing."They know if we lose, we lose, but we lose in the way we want to, and we are not going to defend, we will attack and see if we can make problems and cause problems to our opponents."They have caused their opponents problems. Brisbane last week maybe had more possession but they still created some good chances."We have our own problems with the players that are still not available, and we have to play with players that are full of energy, and the confidence is there. The expectations are more on our side rather than on the side of the Mariners."We have to deal with that. The boys that go out will play against a team who went into the league thinking we have nothing to lose. Those are opponents that are always difficult to approach."We need to bounce back from the last two games. The disappointment from the cup game and the derby [a 3-2 loss to Victory last Saturday] that we had a good second half, but in the end it didn't result in the points." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) All I can say is that when Murfy begins to call for the manager's head you know his time is up lol Absolutely. I know that me and Murf have definitely have many heated discussions over this matter, so I didnt want to make a song and dance over it but when I saw that post I knew its only a matter of timeBut the Dutchman showed he was prepared to make tough calls – even if it meant the result didn't come in his favour – when he axed two senior players, club captain Patrick Kisnorbo and defensive midfielder Erik Paartalu, for City's FFA Cup semi final defeat in Perth on Wednesday night. So basically he is going to field a weaker squad just to show them who is boss even if it ends in disaster instead of maybe questioning his squad selection and use of his players that he selected. *May I add "when he axed two senior players, club captain Patrick Kisnorbo"- the same club captain Patrick Kisnorbo, that he resigned and made captain Edited October 24, 2015 by KSK_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 is there another club where fans have been asking to have their manager sacked for 6 years continuosly.Newcastle United Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Absolutely. I know that me and Murf have definitely have many heated discussions over this matter, so I didnt want to make a song and dance over it but when I saw that post I knew its only a matter of timeSo basically he is going to field a weaker squad just to show them who is boss even if it ends in disaster instead of maybe questioning his squad selection and use of his players that he selected. *May I add "when he axed two senior players, club captain Patrick Kisnorbo"- the same club captain Patrick Kisnorbo, that he resigned and made captainso he rests players, it back fires so he makes up some BS about cutting players etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Seeing a lot of this article is about jvs:John van 't Schip's cool, calm and reflective demeanour might make outsiders think the Melbourne City coach doesn't have a hard edge.But the Dutchman showed he was prepared to make tough calls – even if it meant the result didn't come in his favour – when he axed two senior players, club captain Patrick Kisnorbo and defensive midfielder Erik Paartalu, for City's FFA Cup semi final defeat in Perth on Wednesday night.And as he prepared his team to take on Central Coast Mariners at AAMI Park on Sunday, van 't Schip made it crystal clear that leaving out those two big-name players was not a difficult decision. Nor would it be hard for him to send a message to any other senior men in his squad whom, he felt, were not delivering.Advertisement"It's the start of the season, the boys [are] getting chances to play so the competition with players coming back has really started now," he said."Erik didn't play against Perth and it was not because I was resting him, but because I want to see other things, the same with Patrick."That's what I told the group as well, it's [about] the players who I put on the pitch because they deserve that at that moment and probably because I am not happy with other things that I have seen before."They [the youngsters coming in] get the opportunity to show that they can be part of this line-up, and I think that's only a healthy process."Van 't Schip said he had been delivering the "perform or you are out" message since the pre-season and even towards the end of the 2014-15 campaign, when City finished strongly and made the penultimate match of the season, losing the semi-final to champions Melbourne Victory."It's a process of months that we had last year as well. It's something that we are looking at, we are trying to improve, I am not saying they are not improving or doing their best, I am just saying at a certain moment other players are knocking on the door and there's a time that they have to get the opportunity because I probably don't see enough progress in things that I want to see happening with the team."Those things have been told to the players at the end of the last season and the start of this season, it's not coming out of nothing, it's something they have spoken about a few times. In the end players have to work on that and then it's the quality of the player to make that step."If I think that maybe another player can add something different then that's why I am a coach, to try and change something that can maybe help us get to another step. You can do that by giving them instructions, or by changing the player."Asked if the senior men who were left out were shocked to be dropped, van 't Schip shrugged and said: "You should ask them. There is disappointment, but it's football and that's what I told them, you have to fight back and make sure the next game you can be playing."It depends every time again how the team is going, there is competition, it's close, it's not that they are ruled out, it's just again a signal for them but also for other players to make sure that the opportunities that they get, that they take them."Having taken one point out of a possible six and lost the FFA Cup semi-final, the pressure – always there when you are in charge of the richest club in the competition – is building.City will be favourites to see off Central Coast, a team in transition under Tony Walmsley, who is trying to change the personnel and playing style of the club in double-quick time.They beat Perth in their opening match, and then lost 2-1 in Brisbane, so the Mariners have definitely been competitive and van 't Schip has warned his players to be wary of their bucaneering approach."Mariners have shown good energy in their two games, they have nothing to lose and are playing with no fear. I think that's the best thing, you just go out there and play to your possibilities and that's what they are doing."They know if we lose, we lose, but we lose in the way we want to, and we are not going to defend, we will attack and see if we can make problems and cause problems to our opponents."They have caused their opponents problems. Brisbane last week maybe had more possession but they still created some good chances."We have our own problems with the players that are still not available, and we have to play with players that are full of energy, and the confidence is there. The expectations are more on our side rather than on the side of the Mariners."We have to deal with that. The boys that go out will play against a team who went into the league thinking we have nothing to lose. Those are opponents that are always difficult to approach."We need to bounce back from the last two games. The disappointment from the cup game and the derby [a 3-2 loss to Victory last Saturday] that we had a good second half, but in the end it didn't result in the points."It is a pity he wasn't asked why he insists in Paddy starting off moves from the back.Everyone can see he is uncomfortable doing it and the opposition, just drop back and then press him when the time is right.If we are going to ask anyone to begin moves from the back it should be Chapman. Preferably, I would like to see the centre haves split and a midfielder drop in to receive the ball from the keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 so he rests players, it back fires so he makes up some BS about cutting players etc.Basically yeah. If you are going to make up a shit excuse at least think of something that makes sense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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